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New pics of IAF SU30MKIs heading towards Red Flags 2008 Exercise

Murad sb would reply you later on this but I can confirm you about his seniority" when he was in uniform you were still in liquid form".:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

That's exactly the reason we look forward to him to be someone contributing much more thoughtful comments .. rather than turning everything into a flame war...
 
Guys lets move on. Plenty of senior members have said many things here. Do we have to linger on this? For the fans of IAF, enjoy the moment! Lets see how the Ex. goes. :cheers:
 
I am still sweet 16:cheers:
I ment no disrespect to the group Capt but when you are going up against one party then its ok to say that but when you are going against 3 or 4 different pilots from other parts of the world you keeps comments like that for later or in private. because the world is watching, Yes USAF got there ***** kicked when they were in India but in red flag the rules change and they will not make the same mistake twice.
But from where we come from we do get pat on the backs for moral support, For instance no names, we were on a mission over india we were told any one of you screw up, your *** is mine by our CO:lol:. When we all returned and the mission went very well thats the time he gave us a smile and said " guys well done "

For our Indian friends I wish that your guys win:
 
Guys this is good news:

Sukhois shine at Red Flag exercise in US-India-The Times of India

12 Aug 2008, 0300 hrs IST,TNN

NEW DELHI: Tearing into the sky as part of the Blue Forces to defend against the "aggressor" Red Forces of F-15s and F-16s on Monday, India's eight frontline Sukhoi-30MKI fighters were the cynosure of all eyes at the Nellis US Air Force base in Nevada.

This, after all, is the very first time that the frontline Russian-origin Sukhoi-30MKI fighters are taking part in war games on US territory. "We have trained long and hard for this day," said IAF contingent commander Group Captain D Choudhury, in a pep talk to his 'air warriors' before the world-famous 'Red Flag' air combat exercise kicked off in Nevada.

"It's time to showcase our professionalism. I have total faith and confidence in you. The world is watching us. So, gentlemen let's show them what we are made up of," he added.

IAF fighter pilots have certainly proved more than a match for American, French, British and other pilots in combat exercises over the last few years. But Red Flag is in a different league altogether, with IAF's six Sukhois, two IL-78 mid-air refullers and an IL-76 heavy-lift aircraft flying over 120 sorties just in the "work-up" phase.

"Red Flag will provide a realistic war situation, in which the Blue Forces pilots will have all possible odds 'thrown' at them," IAF spokesperson Wing Commander Mahesh Upasani told TOI over the phone from US. IAF pilots in their Sukhois, along with French ones in their spanking new Rafale fighters, South Korean ones in their F-15K jets and a large USAF element, will constitute the "friendly" Blue Forces during the two-week multi-nation exercise.

"The Red Forces, in turn, will be represented by F-15s and F-16s of the 64th and 65th aggressor squadrons of USAF based at Nellis. The availability of a large air-to-air range, with threat replication, contributes to the tremendous training value of the exercise," said Upasani.

IAF, of course, is pretty sure about holding its own in this largest-ever overseas deployment for the force, even though they are not as used to the "advanced network-centricity" and AWACS (airborne warning and control system) environment as USAF.

"As the exercise progresses, Blue Forces will often be told to change their plans during mid-flight to put them under pressure. The 'kill removal' practice, under which aircraft assumed to have been shot down by the enemy are removed from the exercise, makes it even more realistic," he added.


As reported by TOI earlier, India is shelling out around Rs 100 crore to take part in the complex air combat manoeuvres, which are being touted as a new high in Indo-US military ties. Indian and American armed forces, incidentally, have held around 50 war games in the last seven years to build "interoperability" and learn "best practices" from each other.

Such exercises also give the two confidence that they can operate together against "a common enemy" in the future if required.
 
Some Videos to go along with Pictures at Nellis

YouTube - IAF SU-30MKI Launch and Recovery
SU-30's from the Indian Air Force head out to the Ranges during Red Flag 08-4 orientation. Callsign is 'Sword'

YouTube - 8 IAF SU-30MKI recovery.
8 SU-30's from the Indian Air Force, recover after a morning Red Flag orientation. Callsign 'Sword' and 'Raider'

YouTube - Rafale recovery
3 French Rafales recover after Red Flag 08-4 orientation. Callsign 'Rocket'

YouTube - IAF IL76/78 Launch and Recovery
An IL-76 and IL-78 head out to the ranges during Red Flag orientation. Callsign for the 76 was 'Astro' and the 78 was 'Titan'.

YouTube - AWACS arrival for Red Flag 08-4
An E-3, callsign 'Sentry', arrives for Red Flag 08-4

This is intresting....IAF and ROKAF scanner audio...it will be nice to hear the scanner audio recordings during the exercise
YouTube - IAF and ROKAF scanner audio
 
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Nice pics.

We are not in 1940's where bigger size meant bigger target.

Its the RCS that matters, see F-117 its huge, but front RCS is very low.
Ofcourse Su-30 MKI is not stealth fighter.

LCA has a very less RCS, owing to the composites used and small size.

My friend I am telling you from my experience , I dont know what other pilots fell about it, But size do matter in 71 war You could hardly see Gnat comming towards you the dame thing was so small, the only time you found out was when you were above him or red bullets passing you and making the nosie
Shooooopppppp shoooopppp shooopppp thats the time you were who the hell is firing at me and them you look back and see a small tiny honey bee, and I tell you that honey bee was deadly because of its size. In todays tech people think that BVR's and fancy radars will keep you away from the enemy thats totally wrong, You can dodge a BVR , Screw it up and dodge most of the stuff with different counter measures. My point is things will come to 1 on 1 at close quaters no matter how much tec you use.
Yes I admit that some air foces got there *** kicked buy USA because of technology but Pakistan is not Iraq.
 
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Aircraft maintainers with the Indian air force conduct post-flight maintenance on an SU-30 Fighter following a Red Flag mission at Nellis Air Force Base, Nev. Aug. 13 2008

(U.S. Air Force photo by Airman 1st Class Ryan Whitney)
 
Exercise Red Flag

AIR MSHL PV NAIK VISITS IAF CONTINGENT AT AIR FORCE BASE NELLIS

SAYS “NETWORK CENTRIC OPERATIONS VITAL (FOR SURVIVAL)”
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15:25 IST
Air Marshal PV Naik, Vice Chief of Air Staff, Indian Air Force visited the team IAF along with Lt. Gen Loyd Utterback, Commander 13th Air Force, USAF, Hawai, participating in Exercise Red Flag at Air Force Base Nellis, Nevada, USA, today.

During the course of his visit Air Mshl PV Naik attended the exercise briefings, witnessed flying and exercise debriefs. He also visited the combined Air and Space operation center at the base. He had a detailed interaction with the air crew on how their missions were progressing. He addressed the Air Warriors and also broke the news of Sixth Pay Commission to some of them. He congratulated the technicians for 100% serviceability rate so far.

Speaking to the media persons on the side lines of his visit Air Mshl Naik said “I am of the opinion that the relations between countries are best started by the Armed Forces. India and USA have been natural friends for a long time and they are getting closer and closer. We are looking for increased cooperation in future”.

On being asked about Network Centric Operations (NCW) in IAF Air Mshl Naik said “Network Centric Warfare capability is vital and indispensable in today’s warfare. IAF is a network enabled Air Force and we are progressing towards complete network centricity very fast. Network Centricity involves linking the ground, air and space assets together so as to have complete situational awareness. For this we are in the process of laying a network of fiber optics data links called the AF Net which will be a part of the Integrated Air Command and Control System (IACCS). The integration of Operational Data Link on the airborne platforms of IAF will complete the chain. The connectivity of platforms will be “Written” on them. In the month of October we are expecting the AWACS which will be a crucial link in our network centricity.”

On being asked whether you have achieved the goals you had set for this exercise or not, Air Mshl Naik said that “It is every Pilots dream to take part in this exercise which helps them to fly away from home environment with various other types of aircraft. It is a dense flying environment with large force engagements. It has only been three to four days of flying in the exercise but we are on track to achieve our set goals.”

Lt Gen Loyd Utterback addressed the Air Warriors and said “I have flown down from Hawai to meet you all. The USAF and IAF together form an incredible team. I have been planning to get the IAF team in Red Flag and it has now materialized for peace and security in the region. I am looking forward to work more with you.”

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MU/SM/NK

PIB Press Release
 
Zee News - IAF test foreign lands

Nellis Air Force Base (Nevada), Aug 16: With India's zone of influence now expanding beyond the its mainland, it is important for its Air Force to test its capabilities in far away and varied environments, Vice Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal P V Naik has said.

Speaking at the Nellis Air Force Base, in Nevada, where IAF is participating in the prestigious Red Flag war games , Naik said by participating in this exercise, "We want to check whether we are capable of projecting power over that kind of distances if not more."

"Secondly, we want to test our logistic and administrative abilities to support such a large number of people so far away from home, without much difficulty. In addition, the IAF also wanted to check whether its personnel are capable of operating in varied environments without much loss of effectiveness."

Air Marshal Naik said as far as operations and capability of IAF aircraft is concerned, there are no problems. But with India becoming a global player, it was important to test "how good are we in large force engagements against different types of aircraft other than those we own in India."

He added, it is every fighter pilot's dream to participate in the Red Flag. "It helps you fly in a different environment, fly large force engagements which can be debriefed, picturised in a much better manner here than anywhere else and helps you fly in an environment of different kind of aircrafts than what you are used to."

Bureau Report
 
http://indianairforce.nic.in/show_press ... ews_id=337

On being asked about Network Centric Operations (NCW) in IAF Air Mshl Naik said “Network Centric Warfare capability is vital and indispensable in today’s warfare. IAF is a network enabled Air Force and we are progressing towards complete network centricity very fast. Network Centricity involves linking the ground, air and space assets together so as to have complete situational awareness. For this we are in the process of laying a network of fiber optics data links called the AF Net which will be a part of the Integrated Air Command and Control System (IACCS). The integration of Operational Data Link on the airborne platforms of IAF will complete the chain. The connectivity of platforms will be “Written” on them. In the month of October we are expecting the AWACS which will be a crucial link in our network centricity.”

Check the bold portion seems like we can see AWACS arriving this year only.
 
Guys check this info:

PIB Press Release

Exercise Red Flag-: IAF’s special force 'Garuds' comes off age - Exhibit Mission Capability

The IAF's special force commandos 'The Garuds' successfully demonstrated their mission capability during the Exercise Red Flag, when they neutralized an enemy Radar site capturing an Air Field and carrying out combat search and rescue operations, in Nevada desert USA.

The enemy airfield (Red Forces) was simulated at about 60 Kms from the border and was considered strategically important for the friendly forces. The intelligence report made available identified the location of airfield in desert terrain suggesting medium threat environment and adequate defensive measures. The Garuds were assigned the task of neutralizing the enemy radar site and capture the airfield in a stipulated time frame of two hours.

After acquiring all the necessary intelligence inputs, including those from satellite and Unmanned Ariel Vehicle (UAV), the Garud Force mission commander Flt LT Jagvinder Singh carried out a detailed analysis of terrain and topography, worked out an operational plan. The plan included heliborne insertion and exfilteration of the force. The Garud during this exercise mission used assault riles as primary weapons, pistols and combat knives as secondary weapons, LMGs, Navigation and communication equipment and All Terrain Vehicles (ATVs).

It may be recalled that the IAF formed its first Garud Flight in year 2005 with 60 commandos initially and the force has been progressively growing since then. The need for forming such a force was felt after the Kargil Operations and terrorist attacks on IAF airfields in insurgency affected areas. The Garuds are trained to protect airfields from enemy and terrorist attacks, carry out hostage rescue operations, ‘Radar Busting' etc. The Garuds also carry out the combat search and rescue missions (CSAR) for securing back Pilots from hostile territory.

"Capt Burry of USAF CSAR said "The Garuds have well executed all the assigned missions overcoming all the exercise limitations. The Garuds are a highly trained, motivated and mission oriented force. They never loose their focus and can achieve the near impossible task given to them"
 
IAF on a sortie with the best in the West www.idrw.org / Indian Defense Research Wing

When it come to India's strategic relationship with the United States, one often refers to the nuclear deal. But perhaps the most visible example of this is in military ties.

For the last several years, India and the US have been engaging in progressively more complex military exercises and are currently participating in the most sophisticated air combat exercises in the world called Red Flag in the state of Nevada.

Such exercises are reserved only for the closest military allies of the United States.

Through this exercise, a young fighter pilot of the Indian Air Force gets a chance for a sortie where he will pit his skills against some of the finest of the US, French and South Korean Air Forces.

"This is an exercise which tries to replicate the first ten days of an air battle and provide a realistic exposure to the air crew so that he can be exposed to the nuances of it and thereby be prepared for what comes to him. God forbid if he ever has to participate in hostilities," Group Captain Ajai Rathore, IAF Exercise Coordinator, Red Flag said.

Exercises like this which involve dozens of jets maneuvering in a restricted airspace while carrying out their missions requires precision skills.

For the Indian Air Force, performing well in this environment is not just a matter of pride. It is also a pointer to just how capable its personnel are as they operate with some of the best of the West and so far the results have been positive.

The Indian Air Force's top gun the Sukhoi 30 fighter are deployed on an American air base in Nevada. This is perhaps the most visible example of the close strategic relationship between India and the United States, a strategic relationship which is based to a large extent on the military to military ties between the Indian and US Air Forces.
 

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