New Gem From PDM Defense Minister

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Because

1- The weather and climate in those countries is completely different from us. They can afford to go out in the afternoon, we cannot.

2- The household (women, older people) can venture out by themselves to get groceries and other things. In Pakistan, the onus is primarily on the man of the house. Moreover, combine this with the extreme living disparity, most people live far away from where they work. Adha Pindi Islamabad ata hai kaam karnay. It takes an hour to go back in the evening, even more. If you leave office at 6 you reach home by 7:30, and then pick up your children and go outside.

3- The concept of markets and stores in those countries is very different from us, and is much more concentrated.



Where is the pharmacist who pretends to be an energy minister?

He is State Minister for Energy while Federal Minister for Energy was present there.

As for raised as pharmacist and working in energy sector, I would adopt arguments of your favorite Khawar Ghumman:

One of his colleagues wonders how he became an advisor to governments on the critical energy sector when his academic records qualify him best to work in the medical sector.

Dr Malik agrees that Pharmacy was his initial education. But later on went into policy making. “Very few people know I have done MBA and that in my post-doctoral fellowship I focused more on economics and public policy making. Then onwards I worked with major public policy making consulting firms,” he said.

His CV shows that most of his professional career was built in oil-rich Middle Eastern countries, particularly Saudi Arabia, Oman and Bahrain. There, besides teaching, he advised governments on formulating strategies for education, economic transformation, industrial development, labour reforms, employment generation and healthcare.

Parliament Watch: Nawaz Sharif’s new spokesperson a man of many talents

Dr Mussadik Malik belongs to a genre ever in demand; whatever system of governance may be in vogue.

www.dawn.com

 

[Areesh]

In parliamentary form of government every minister can be held responsible and answerable for the decisions of government, so there is no harm if Defence Minister, who was Energy Minister also in the past, answers questions related to his previous ministry.

He is currently defense minister

He shouldn't be answering questions beyond his domain. But then this is a fake setup with an alliance of 13 parties so we can give this a pass

 

[AlKardai]

It's not going to rise economically to many headwinds this country can't control; you don't have the levers of power; on top, have you looked at the PM we tossed out and what his replacement looks like? It's like choosing a malnourished rat over a tiger. We need to look at Lahori Butts to understand what we have as a people who vote.

If I showed your post to Angel Israfil, he'd blow the trumpet out of shame before God commands it.

For the time being, Pakistan is unable to rise. But I have full hope that a good leader will come and fix Pakistan Economically before the end of times

 

[HAIDER]

A question was raised there that when people would go home early, more children will be born. In response, Khawaja Asif said that in countries where markets close early, children are born less, means, the birth rate is low there. By what logic are you asking this question?

But PTI media cell twisted it.

Leaders good or bad, but they learn hard way They are not willing to change their habits. Don t know what is the right solution for this nation.

 

[Baburfromsarmarkand]

Even better question: why is there a Defense Minister at all? Isn't it a waste of money when all real security decisions are taken by the mil itself and the DM can't command them to do anything in reality?

Ive always wondered this lol, this dude talks about anything but defense

 

[TigerOfMysore]

First question is always the 'Standing': Did the defamation occur in UK? Is the Defamer an ordinary resident of U.K.? Then the victim has recourse to U.K. Law and courts. But, if the victim is an Intelligence Officer, by definition, he is not 'famous', is he? He has to probably be undercover to be an intelligence officer. So, suing in a court means he will be outed.

Rest of your arguments in terms of precedent, Sovereign immunity etc., are not valid because he is suing as a victim. Any victim anywhere can choose to pray that a court having jurisdiction render justice. The questions of Precedent and Sovereign immunity are applicable if he were the party being accused. If the U.K. person were to sue the ISI person, then the ISI person can exercise immunity etc., if the cause were not internationally recognized crimes that Pakistan was a party to extradition.

I would agree with you if this was exclusively in his personal capacity. He is suing as a current serving officer of the ISI, for disrepute of what he does in his official capacity as that officer. That is the reason why this can get muddy. Hence by suing in his official capacity as an officer he is allowing a foreign court jurisdiction over this case. I think he has grounds to perhaps litigate in a Pakistani court, though even there is makes little sense given his type of work. But the idea that a UK resident (individual) can be litigated on the basis of their political views on a officer of a foreign Intel agency just does not hold water.
Such a case would also be a test of the UK justice system. Adil should get good legal crown lawyers, and make sure he is represented well.

 

[Path-Finder]

this is what's in power.

 

[White privilege]

So today we hear that a serving ISI Officer is suing Adil Raja in UK court.

Senior army officer sues Raja for defamation in UK

ISI officer's representative tells the UK High Court that Raja “conducted a determined and prolific social media campaign against the Claimant".

www.dawn.com

Can someone please help me understand how this is even possible? Who is giving these guys legal advice? How did high command give this authorization? Is the incompetence so rampant within our most important institutions. Where is the AG and JAG on this? Are they really giving this advice? Even as a non-lawyer I can tell you how bad this advice and move is.

Suing someone opens yourself up for scrutiny. This army officer's plea will be hard pressed to be entertained. And let's say it does get entertained, then basically this officer can be called to the court. He is essentially as a member of a foreign sovereign operating under a foreign sovereign mandate putting himself and indirectly the foreign sovereign under international in this case UK jurisdiction (thereby creating a precedence if he brings some official authorization of this lawsuit. It helps UK courts establish a precedence where they can argue in future cases that the veil of Soverign immunity has been peirced.

Furthermore if I was Adil Raja I would have a field day with this lawsuit.
I would request deposition of this officer, it would essentially kill the officer intelligence career. It would force the officer to be deposed, which would force them to respond to all and every question. In this exercise he would be legally obliged to answer all questions. This could be highly embarrasing and even one lie would undermine the entire case, not to mention make it impossible for the officer to respond. That could be highly embarrassing for the officer, his institution and the country.

It is mind numbing to think someone gave this officer the guidance to litigate. Pakistani institutional competence has hit a new low.

I don't believe the move is ill advised. Even if Raja asks to depose this officer, what is he going to ask,"Did you rig the election ??" , "No"...There, expedition over. On the other hand, "How did Mr. X rig the election?? " ...Bunch of mumbo jumbo..." .Objection, speculation , hearsay...sustained...headscratch...awkward silence....Raja lost....!!!

 

[SEOminati]

Why is defense minister heading a presser about closing markets at 8pm?

Because the economy is directly linked to defence? hahaha

 

[AZ1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610651879071158272

jawab mil gaya

 

[ghazi52]

Please avoid laughing....
He knows that, the time will pass either good or bad, secondly his energy will be utilized, but where....
Cases close..

 

[Gripen9]

Although entire current imported cabinet are bunch of useless jokers but this is correct strategy and sooner or later we have to implement this. This idea was actually first coined during IK tenure but never got materialized because of corona after math.

They should first start with austerity measures implemented at Federal Government level. 70+ ministers in the cabinet, another 70 SAPMs, Grade 19+ bureaucrats, judges givens hundreds of liters of petrol and cars every month.

Start from there. Atleast restaurants and eateries should be exempted. How many Pakistanis go out to eat at 6-7pm? It will impact livelihood of people.

So today we hear that a serving ISI Officer is suing Adil Raja in UK court.

Senior army officer sues Raja for defamation in UK

ISI officer's representative tells the UK High Court that Raja “conducted a determined and prolific social media campaign against the Claimant".

www.dawn.com

Can someone please help me understand how this is even possible? Who is giving these guys legal advice? How did high command give this authorization? Is the incompetence so rampant within our most important institutions. Where is the AG and JAG on this? Are they really giving this advice? Even as a non-lawyer I can tell you how bad this advice and move is.

Suing someone opens yourself up for scrutiny. This army officer's plea will be hard pressed to be entertained. And let's say it does get entertained, then basically this officer can be called to the court. He is essentially as a member of a foreign sovereign operating under a foreign sovereign mandate putting himself and indirectly the foreign sovereign under international in this case UK jurisdiction (thereby creating a precedence if he brings some official authorization of this lawsuit. It helps UK courts establish a precedence where they can argue in future cases that the veil of Soverign immunity has been peirced.

Furthermore if I was Adil Raja I would have a field day with this lawsuit.
I would request deposition of this officer, it would essentially kill the officer intelligence career. It would force the officer to be deposed, which would force them to respond to all and every question. In this exercise he would be legally obliged to answer all questions. This could be highly embarrasing and even one lie would undermine the entire case, not to mention make it impossible for the officer to respond. That could be highly embarrassing for the officer, his institution and the country.

It is mind numbing to think someone gave this officer the guidance to litigate. Pakistani institutional competence has hit a new low.

Exactly. He will be giving his deposition under oath and severe penalty for perjury. Adil Raja's lawyer can even go on a fishing expedition and these bozos may inadvertently spill something even more sensitive.

This is not LaWhore High Court & FIA that you can get your own verdicts and remands.

 

[AZ1]

pdm will just talk

 

[ghazi52]

,.,.

 

[SaadH]

None of them have a clue, defence minister knows jacksht about defence, environment minister no. clue about environment, finance minister no idea on finance, prime minister no idea how to project himself on world stage with other leaders… modi gives them bear hug, SS gives them please don’t let go of my hand act…
Complete jokers, but all excel in lies, corruption, deceit and blackmail…

Sirf Bajwa hi kaafi hai. Bajwa hai tu sub mumkin hai...

When you have an uber genius polyglot holding all the portfolios formulating economic, social, defense, environmental and judicial policy and strategy, PDM pawns are there just for decoration.