New Chinese stealth fighter heightens dilemma for Indian Navy

[sancho]

Useless development and induction of a less capable fighter will give experience to IN

- inducting and operating Mig 29K in different roles will give IN experience, because these fighters are ready developed and available now, not in 6 years or so
- developing an N-LCA tech demonstrator (the first 6 N-LCA prototypes based on the LCA MK1), gives Indian industry experience in navalising a fighter for carrier operations, not developing a full fledged combat varient, with bigger numbers, that's just a waste of time and money
- jointly develop FGFA will give Indian industry the experience to develop a stealth fighter, not developing LCA
- licence producing Rafale will give Indian industry access to modern production routines and the forces the possibility to use NG avionics and weapons

U.S has defined 4S criterias: super-cruise, stealth, super-maneuvrability and Super electronics...they knew that no nation will be able to meet all these 4 "S" criteras

Russian and European 4.5 gen fighters already showing these capabilities and both also have shown their capabilities with stealth design as well.
China on the otherside has still to prove that is even close to these countries in most of these fields let alone the US. Taking US and Russian stealth designs and mixing them is one point, developing an own stealth design another. The Eurocanards are supermaneuverable, offers supercruise capabilities and NG avionics, Chinese 4th gen fighters don't.
China has a good pace, but will still need time to reach the same level and that is something that many people forget.

 

[NASE]

AND CHINESE STOLEN INDIAN MARTIAL ARTS,CULTURE,RELIGION,KALARI (KUNG FU)

Europeans, USA stolen Chinese technologies - No China, No Modern Weapons!

Gun Powder, Gun, Cannon, Rocket, Tank, Steel, Landmine, Paper, Compass, Printing all are invented by Chinese.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...-technologies-no-china-no-modern-weapons.html

Bodhidharma(King of Martial arts) - YouTube

 

[kkacer]

Big Mouth Indians again

KUNG FU The earliest references to Chinese martial arts are found in the Spring and Autumn Annals (5th century BC),[11] where a hand to hand combat theory, including the integration of notions of "hard" and "soft" techniques, is mentioned.[12] A combat wrestling system called juélì or jiǎolì (角&#21147 is mentioned in the Classic of Rites.[13] This combat system included techniques such as strikes, throws, joint manipulation, and pressure point attacks. Jiao Di became a sport during the Qin Dynasty (221–207 BC). The Han History Bibliographies record that, by the Former Han (206 BC – 8 BC), there was a distinction between no-holds-barred weaponless fighting, which it calls shǒubó (手&#25615, for which training manuals had already been written, and sportive wrestling, then known as juélì (角&#21147. Wrestling is also documented in the Shǐ Jì, Records of the Grand Historian, written by Sima Qian (ca. 100 BC).[14]

Wake up Big Mouth Indians

Chinese should feel shame of india's achievement for e.g


HAL completed design studies in 1975, It came from the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme, which began in the 1980s to replace India's aging MiG-21 fighters. Later, the LCA was officially named "Tejas"


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LCA is a totally failed project (also 90% foreign product)

 

[kkacer]

double deleted

 

[whitefox011]

this forum is so full of trolls useless

 

[danger007]

kkacer got lots of time to spend on pdf lol ..


chini's have radars in eyes, which scans entire jets ... my god i am amazed with chini's capability to point out the defects of any jet just by looking.... ...



@let J-20 come into service.... plenty projects to steal chini tax payers money lol.....

 

[qasimali]

Shenyang J-31 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ashokdeiva]

India can't even maintain a 3gen fighter like Mig 21 properly,how they gonna look into Something like AMCA? How could you run before walk?

Some times to have to run before you walk, that is natures compulsion.
Also CHINA is doing good so keep it up and lets not mock at each other. The reason that the rest of the world calls CHINA bad when it comes to intelectual rights is, you guys have the man power and infrastructure and any company that comes to manufacture their product in CHINA so they can make the product price affordable ends up with a compromise that they loose the design to the CHINESE. Wont you agree on that

 

[trident2010]

Look wise both J-20/J-31 got a good stealthy design. However, how in the terms of engine, avionics, EW and 5th gen weapons is evolving, it remains to be seen. All 4.5 gen fighters available in Europe and US still far ahead in these terms.

 

[Edevelop]

Rafale is enough to handle the chinese alleged 5thgens.

 

[NASE]

INDIAN KALARI CALLED IN CHINA KUNG FU,KUNG FU ORIGINE INDIA
Birthplace of Kung Fu: China? Wrong! Guess Again! (1of2) - YouTube

Big Mouth Indians again

KUNG FU The earliest references to Chinese martial arts are found in the Spring and Autumn Annals (5th century BC),[11] where a hand to hand combat theory, including the integration of notions of "hard" and "soft" techniques, is mentioned.[12] A combat wrestling system called juélì or jiǎolì (角&#21147 is mentioned in the Classic of Rites.[13] This combat system included techniques such as strikes, throws, joint manipulation, and pressure point attacks. Jiao Di became a sport during the Qin Dynasty (221–207 BC). The Han History Bibliographies record that, by the Former Han (206 BC – 8 BC), there was a distinction between no-holds-barred weaponless fighting, which it calls shǒubó (手&#25615, for which training manuals had already been written, and sportive wrestling, then known as juélì (角&#21147. Wrestling is also documented in the Shǐ Jì, Records of the Grand Historian, written by Sima Qian (ca. 100 BC).[14]

Wake up Big Mouth Indians




LCA is a totally failed project (also 90% foreign product)

Yes you guys had the Tribes hand to hand combat theory but that's not kung fu

 

[NASE]

Rafale is enough to handle the chinese alleged Duplicate 2nd class j

 

[帅的一匹]

Some times to have to run before you walk, that is natures compulsion.
Also CHINA is doing good so keep it up and lets not mock at each other. The reason that the rest of the world calls CHINA bad when it comes to intelectual rights is, you guys have the man power and infrastructure and any company that comes to manufacture their product in CHINA so they can make the product price affordable ends up with a compromise that they loose the design to the CHINESE. Wont you agree on that

　India could play similiar tricks like china. Want earn money,transfer your tech at first.

 

[sasi]

¡¡India could play similiar tricks like china. Want earn money,transfer your tech at first.

Sorry our babus and netas are interested in stealing our peoples money only./ they are loyal to foreigners./@off

 

[NASE]

Here you go see china politician corruption Chinese premier's family has massive wealth: NYT report | Reuters

Sorry our babus and netas are interested in stealing our peoples money only./ they are loyal to foreigners./@off