New Charge Sheet Links Tablighi Jamaat & Deoband to Delhi Riots

[xeuss]

Nah, I'm not saying they're street battles. For pure political street battles you've to goto rayalaseema region in AP.

To answer your quesion, because I don't believe Congress is sitting idle doing nothing with all the resources at their disposal. They're not particularly naive, idealist nor inexpedient.

Considering that no entity has called these pogroms in Delhi to be related to the Congress, it is quite surprising that you peddle this around.

Ask the one who posted maps. And I wont use the word 'pogrom' for these riots.

Why? Because it does not fit into your "both sides" narrative?

 

[Naofumi]

Ask the one who posted maps. And I wont use the word 'pogrom' for these riots.

Police action is answerable by Amit Shah himself, map indicates the "civilian action".

 

[Vasudhaika]

Voting patterns should be taken with timeline i.e. after CAA fiasco, no? Why should not we take 1990s one too?

Lol, 1990? I'm not here to troll, so asking for recent election data. Are you suggesting that CAA itself is the reason(or contributed) for AAP's win? or things have changed in Delhi so much in 6 months for an average Delhite with CAA?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Do find an ice-bag and apply it.

Not the Indian state, but the Delhi Police, that reports direct to Amit Shah due to Delhi being a Union Territory, found Muslims responsible for the Delhi riots. This is the same police that held back from the attack on JNU protesters by ABVP hoodlums, attacked uninvolved students at Jamia Millia, chasing them into the library to assault them, and stayed quiescent throughout the provocation period prior to the Delhi elections.

Try to understand that these are institutions directly administered by the BJP, and nothing can be expected from them different from the actions of the puppet police in Gujarat.

Bad-mouthing the entire Indian state and all Indians is hardly reasonable or useful. If it makes a major stir among sympathetic readers, and that inspires you, go ahead; if you have any comment to make that helps us to understand the situation, the possible solutions or the personalities involved, you will find many eager to hear your views.

Excuse me, but Amit shah is responsible for whole of India's internal security and issues, so what he does, is the will of the Indian state, not some random sub entities, provences or territories within Indian federation. You in a way is proving what I said earlier.

These people are elected leaders of india who represent the will of majority of Indians. If this is not pointed toward India as "state" then who is responsible for this latest travesty?

 

[Naofumi]

Lol, 1990? I'm not here to troll, so asking for recent election data. Are you suggesting that CAA itself is the reason(or contributed) for AAP's win? or things have changed in Delhi so much in 6 months for an average Delhite with CAA?

Dude, you claimed,
Ramlila speech -> Delhi riots.
I posted that Muslims didn't voted for Congress at all but
for proving
BJP hate campaign in Delhi elections -> Delhi riots,
The map was posted. If you can't comprehend it even now, then I guess I should not waste my time at all.

 

[Vasudhaika]

Considering that no entity has called these pogroms in Delhi to be related to the Congress, it is quite surprising that you peddle this around.

Why no one? Ruling party repeatedly blamed Congress and Sonia.

your "both sides" narrative

Keep thinking 'We do what we do with genuine emotion, they do what they do part of their crooked politics'. Tu kare toh Ram leela, hum kare toh character dheela.

 

[Naofumi]

We do what we do with genuine emotion, they do what they do part of their crooked politics

What are you even saying? "Do" what? Elaborate please.

 

[Vasudhaika]

I posted that Muslims didn't voted for Congress at all but
for proving

Ah! I get it now. Parties like AAP come and go. Congress is here to stay, like it or not. You guys voting or not voting in a couple of elections will not change anything for a party as big as them. And we're talking about Delhi here, where if something happens, nationally and internationally garners attention. This will not just go away like few hundreds of students protesting in Osmania University for many months nor angry mob vandalising the public property on tank bund will go unnoticed. You are special, Delhi is special.

"Do" what? Elaborate please.

Anti CAA protests in this context.

 

[xeuss]

Why no one? Ruling party repeatedly blamed Congress and Sonia.

Sorry, I did not realize that you are here to peddle the narrative of the fascists.

Keep thinking 'We do what we do with genuine emotion, they do what they do part of their crooked politics'. Tu kare toh Ram leela, hum kare toh character dheela.

Your writings are a testament to your thoughts. Your character must be worse than dheela if you are supporting the SanghiNazis.

 

[Vasudhaika]

Your writings are a testament to your thoughts. Your character must be worse than dheela if you are supporting the SanghiNazis.

That's okay, I'm not someone who will do slavery to a party nor an ideology. I don't have anything to prove to you. And as long as you put everyone that points a finger at you in 'Sanghi' bucket, there's high probability of majority vote consolidating like 14 and 19.

 

[Naofumi]

Ah! I get it now. Parties like AAP come and go. Congress is here to stay, like it or not. You guys voting or not voting in a couple of elections will not change anything for a party as big as them. And we're talking about Delhi here, where if something happens, nationally and internationally garners attention. This will not just go away like few hundreds of students protesting in Osmania University for many months nor angry mob vandalising the public property on tank bund will go unnoticed. You are special, Delhi is special.

You are saying Congress made a speech and it had no effect whatsoever but still they managed to organise support for riots among Muslims, right?

Anti CAA protests in this context.

A law that has already passed, what's their to protest for?

 

[Vasudhaika]

You are saying Congress made speech and it had no effect whatsoever but still they managed to organise support for riots among Muslims, right?

Correct, it is not an exam to pass or fail. Political parties doesn't work like that.

A law that has already passed, what's their to protest for?

I have the same question. What were they doing at Shaheen bagh?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Excuse me, but Amit shah is responsible for whole of India's internal security and issues, so what he does, is the will of the Indian state, not some random sub entities, provences or territories within Indian federation. You in a way is proving what I said earlier.

These people are elected leaders of india who represent the will of majority of Indians. If this is not pointed toward India as "state" then who is responsible for this latest travesty?

That is incorrect. Law and order is a state subject. He is specifically empowered only to act on law and order matters within Union Territories. Delhi is a Union Territory. He has NO authority to do anything within any duly constituted state.

I am sorry, but your wish to see something happen does not change facts on the ground.

 

[xeuss]

That's okay, I'm not someone who will do slavery to a party nor an ideology. I don't have anything to prove to you. And as long as you put everyone that points a finger at you in 'Sanghi' bucket, there's high probability of majority vote consolidating like 14 and 19.

Unfortunately, you are not pointing a finger at me, but rather, defending the actions of those that initiated the pogrom and those that continue to ensure that justice is not served.

Most people like you no qualms with injustice or majoritarianism that form the hallmark of a fascist society. Thank you for confirming that you fit very comfortably within such a society.

If your voting pattern in 2024 depends on what I say on a forum, then you were that fruit that never fell far away from that tree of hate.

 

[Naofumi]

I have the same question. What were they doing at Shaheen bagh?

They want it to be removed but for those who support it - it has already passed, what more do you want?

Correct

Lol, just look at how ridiculous is this. No support to full support, woah.