Never ask me about peace again

[The SiLent crY]

LOL. Obviously that's a lie.

Last time I checked then it is your fake wannabe Arab Mullah's who are crawling on their feet to lick a certain part of the Western leaders so they will be allowed to free themselves from their giant misery when not licking Russian/Chinese leaders. Moreover your country was the biggest partner and supporter of Israel since Israel came to existence in 1948 until 1979 and most of your people have nothing against Israel. Your fake wannabe Arab Mullah's also received Israeli aid during the Iraq-Iran war. Facts hurt, I know.

Most of these deals were between Iran and US in exchange of freeing American hostages in Lebanon and it was US weapons not Israelis .

No one knew they were coming from US bases in Israel and when it was revealed they stopped and rejected the planes .

Don't accuse Iran when you don't know the whole story man .


Forget Iran in before 1979 , It was a puppet just like your current corrupted leaders although Shah was closer to the US but same sh!t .

Look at Iran - Israel history after 1979 , You'll get the point .

More lies. Saudi Arabia has donated more to Gaza than Iran in the past 1 month.

Anyway clown learn the difference between people and a few governments and stop spreading bullshit and mind your own business.

Donating will not bring peace , honor ,and lost lands for Palestinians , neither their martyrs . They need power both militarily and politically to force Israel and their allies in order to accept their rights . The least your countries could do was sanctioning Israel and stopping exporting oil to them for a while .

Do you think your money will save them ? no it won't .

It will be wasted in next war , They first need peace then money and other things .

 

[The SiLent crY]

Clown. It's Arabs who went to war with Israel not Iranians. It's Arabs who have ALWAYS stood with their Palestinian brethren when you Iranians were their greatest allies in the region and cooperated with them closely. It's Arabs who have donated more money and humanitarian aid to the Palestinians than anyone else. It's Arabs who have sacrificed themselves in wars and politically. It's the Arab street that is most supportive of the Palestinians than anyone else.

It's also Arab countries that host most of the Palestinian migrants and leaders etc. The list is endless.

So don't even go there.

You as a Farsi have no right to bark because your leaders have barked a few times (without ever declaring war on Israel contrary to what Arabs have done) and sending a few largely useless pipes and a few rifles. Are you joking?

Yes, you should mind your own business as you are an unwanted element, always was and always will be. The sooner your likes understand this the better.

P.S: Can you tell me where the leader of Hamas is right now? I heard that he was located in some Arab country. Don't remember what it is called. Can you help me out here? You are obviously obsessed about the Arab world so you should be able to answer this question. Take your time.

OMG . This guy is unbelievable .

Dude ,Who the **** do you think is fighting Israel in Lebanon and even in Gaza ?

If Iran didn't support resistance in Palestine and Lebanon it was a part of history right now .

Do you seriously think Israel will let people breathe in those places ?

They still have their big plan from Nil to Euphrates and if it wasn't Iran's revolution to hit them in the balls they would have taken everywhere up to now .

 

[al-Hasani]

I'm talking about some Indians. I never attempt to refute your posts because we argue for the same thing. I too am upset with the Arab world. We know the double standard there.

But, it isn't helpful to demonize too much because one day it will change.

Which double standard are yo talking about? Are you now disputing that Arabs have done more for Palestinians than anyone else has ever done and will do? Please.

Who went to war for the sake of the Palestinians AS THE ONLY PEOPLE EVER? Arabs.

Who went to war more than once for the sake of the Palestinians? Arabs.

Who have donated more for Palestinian resistance groups historically? Arabs.

Who have donated more humanitarian aid than anyone? Arabs.

Who have financed and rebuilt more buildings, infrastructure, mosques, hospitals etc.? Arabs.

Who ALWAYS stood up for Palestinians since Israel got created in 1948? Arabs.

Who expelled most of its Jewish population after Israel's creation and treatment of the Palestinians? Arabs.

Who hosts and who has welcomed more Palestinian refugees than anyone else by far? Arabs.

Who always hosted Palestinian leaders in their lands and famous Palestinians that were sought after by the West and Israel? Arabs.

Who now hosts the leader of Hamas? Arabs.

Whose people's support can the Palestinians always count on? Arabs.

Who has since 1948 banned Israelis from traveling to their countries and a wide range of other initiatives? Arabs.

Who has until this day made the most realistic peace plan to date? Arabs.

Who sacrificed more blood, tears, money, politics etc. for the Palestinians and the Palestinian cause? Arabs.

Read what that Arab-obessed clown is writing. He is talking about Arabs as in all of us 450 million people despite knowing the truth and you are not condemning him for doing so.

Clowns like him do not deserve attention.

If you are unable to recognize all those sacrifices then don't blame the TINY minority of Arabs who do not care anymore about the Palestinian plight and for them wanting to prosper instead. Much more should be done (from the entire Muslim world) although most cannot be done due to the ground realities and nobody has yet freed Palestine since 1948 but this is another issue altogether. By agreeing or not countering the nonsense that he spreads then you are disrespecting the THOUSANDS of Arabs who gave their life's for Palestine.

As I said with such behavior then don't expect miracles to happen. Just saying.

@Arabian Legend @JUBA @Bubblegum Crisis @Yzd Khalifa @Full Moon @Hadbani @Tihamah @BLACKEAGLE @Awadd @Altamimi @Rakan.SA @Halimi @ebray @Ahmed Jo @Mahmoud_EGY @Frogman @1000 @agentny17 @Dino R. @Amir_Pharaoh @Andalusi Knight @Mootaz-khelifi @Tunisian Marine Corps @islamrules etc.

 

[Mootaz-khelifi]

who don't care who this SOB

 

[Falcon29]

Which double standard are yo talking about? Are you now disputing that Arabs have done more for Palestinians than anyone else has ever done and will do? Please.


@Arabian Legend @JUBA @Bubblegum Crisis @Yzd Khalifa @Full Moon @Hadbani @Tihamah @BLACKEAGLE @Awadd @Altamimi @Rakan.SA @Halimi @ebray @Ahmed Jo @Mahmoud_EGY @Frogman @1000 @agentny17 @Dino R. @Amir_Pharaoh @Andalusi Knight @Mootaz-khelifi @Tunisian Marine Corps @islamrules etc.

No I aren't, today a few nations have a double standard. Again, you went on a pointless rant and tagged Arab members as if that's going to make a difference.

Don't throw words in my mouth. I said nothing about Arab people. I'm an Arab myself. I was clearly referring to certain governmetns in the region and there's no denying that.

What Arabs did in the past has nothing to do with my post nor is it relevant to what is happening today at all.

Dear God, quite being foolish.

 

[gau8av]

This short phrase can not cover the shame. Try as you might.
Nothing excuses this madness. None of the excuses works. Its only your stubbornness that makes you grab at straw - they wont work as fig leaves.

I wasn't making excuses for anyone, just some commentary on the human condition.. as it stands today, and not just because Gaza, we're quite a pathetic race of beings.

 

[Mootaz-khelifi]

No I aren't, today a few nations have a double standard. Again, you went on a pointless rant and tagged Arab members as if that's going to make a difference.

Don't throw words in my mouth. I said nothing about Arab people. I'm an Arab myself. I was clearly referring to certain governmetns in the region and there's no denying that.

What Arabs did in the past has nothing to do with my post nor is it relevant to what is happening today at all.

Dear God, quite being foolish.

the arab gov most of them are F*** israeli puppet

 

[Falcon29]

who don't care who this SOB

Who are you calling a 'SOB' for no reason at all? All you guys do is misinterpret peoples statements and start being so emotional.

the arab gov most of them are F*** israeli puppet

Exactly bro. That's all I was saying, that some of the governments are shameful. @al-Hasani got really upset at this

I would never criticize the Arab people or their history. I am Arab myself.

 

[al-Hasani]

No I aren't, today a few nations have a double standard. Again, you went on a pointless rant and tagged Arab members as if that's going to make a difference.

Don't throw words in my mouth. I said nothing about Arab people. I'm an Arab myself. I was clearly referring to certain governmetns in the region and there's no denying that.

What Arabs did in the past has nothing to do with my post nor is it relevant to what is happening today at all.

Dear God, quite being foolish.

You did not get my point Hazzy or you must have misunderstood me. Do you dispute the facts I wrote or not? I was talking about people. The farsi troll mentioned Arabs - meaning 450 million of us and not a few leaders. That's obviously bullshit and not only provoking but also a MASSIVE lie based on history, facts, present day and everything else.

I wanted to see whether you agree or not and I saw no definitive answer other than you making that distinction between Arab people and leaders which is a good thing and which he failed to do.

Besides which Arab leaders support Israel? None last time i saw. Is it not an Arab country that hosts the leader of Hamas?

You should have done so at the beginning as this is the only thing that caught my attention.

Lastly I am interested in whether you agree with the facts I wrote or not.

 

[Falcon29]

You did not get my point. Do you dispute the facts I wrote or not? I was talking about people. The farsi troll mentioned Arabs - like 450 of us and not a few leaders. That's obviously bullshit.

I wanted to see whether you agree or not and I saw no definitive answer other than you making that distinction between Arab people and leaders which is a good thing.

You should have done so at the beginning as this is the only thing that caught my attention.

Lastly I am interested in whether you agree with the facts I wrote or not.

My bad, I was skimming through the posts here and didn't read carefully since I'm posting a lot of info in another thread refuting peoples bogus.

I would never attack the Arab people. The Arab people are united in our plights. It's just our leaders who have not taken into account our ultimate aspirations.

 

[Mootaz-khelifi]

Who are you calling a 'SOB' for no reason at all? All you guys do is misinterpret peoples statements and start being so emotional.

no u of course i mean thous who don't care about you palestinian

 

[al-Hasani]

My bad, I was skimming through the posts here and didn't read carefully since I'm posting a lot of info in another thread refuting peoples bogus.

I would never attack the Arab people. The Arab people are united in our plights. It's just our leaders who have not taken into account our ultimate aspirations.

Please read my post. I edited it. I just want to hear whether you agree with my post number 78 or not?

I agree with your post anyway and you know this very well but on the other hand I do not like baseless bashing of Arab governments just for the sake of it when they are doing much good too and not any different than all other Muslim regimes. Besides we are talking about a tiny minority of governments anyway if any. I do not believe that even 1 Arab government supporters Israel.

To say that Arabs, who have done more for their brethren in Palestine and the Palestinian cause than anyone else is even close to, are cheerleading for Israel or now suddenly support Israel 100% I find highly insulting and even disturbing hence my strong reaction. This person obviously is obsessed about Arabs (look at his user history and his posts in this thread) and is only looking to provoke people here.

What I told about his people, country and its history etc. is correct too. Might reread it again or look at the facts on the ground and history.

Anyway this discussion would not have existed if it was not for his comment and his compatriots similar comments elsewhere. In such situations all MUSLIMS should stand together but when certain people are more interested in trolling and wasting energy on everything else other than Israel and Israelis then this is obviously hard to ignore. I don't see any Arab here even mentioning his country here before his idiotic/troll comment.

We know that our Muslim world and also leaders need improvement. Urgent one. Far from only Arab leaders. ALL Muslim leaders. But I will simply not allow such comments, lies and provocations without countering them with facts. Not after all those sacrifices we Arabs have given who are second to none.

No foreigner is in a position to lecture Arabs about Palestine or claim that they have done more let alone accusing the 450 million Arabs for supporting Israel. What a ridiculous and insulting thing to say really! In this case I could not give two shits about some Arab or non-Arab leaders. This is about the Arab people as a whole who he is insulting by such comments deliberately.

@Hazzy997

 

[Falcon29]

no u of course i mean thous who don't care about you palestinian

Please read my post. I edited it. I just want to hear whether you agree with my post number 78 or not?

I agree with your post anyway and you know this very well but on the other hand I do not like baseless bashing of Arab governments just for the sake of it when they are doing much good too and not any different than all other Muslim regimes. Besides we are talking about a tiny minority of governments anyway if any. I do not believe that even 1 Arab government supporters Israel.

To say that Arabs, who have done more for their brethren in Palestine and the Palestinian cause than anyone else is even close to, are cheerleading for Israel or now suddenly support Israel 100% I find highly insulting and even disturbing hence my strong reaction. This person obviously is obsessed about Arabs (look at his user history and his posts in this thread) and is only looking to provoke people here.

What I told about his people, country and its history etc. is correct too. Might reread it again or look at the facts on the ground and history.

Anyway this discussion would not have existed if it was not for his comment and his compatriots similar comments elsewhere. In such situations all MUSLIMS should stand together but when certain people are more interested in trolling and wasting energy on everything else other than Israel and Israelis then this is obviously hard to ignore. I don't see any Arab here even mentioning his country here before his idiotic/troll comment.

We know that our Muslim world and also leaders need improvement. Urgent one. Far from only Arab leaders. ALL Muslim leaders. But I will simply not allow such comments, lies and provocations without countering them with facts. Not after all those sacrifices we Arabs have given who are second to none.

No foreigner is in a position to lecture Arabs about Palestine or claim that they have done more let alone accusing the 450 million Arabs for supporting Israel. What a ridiculous and insulting thing to say really! In this case I could not give two shits about some Arab or non-Arab leaders. This is about the Arab people as a whole who he is insulting by such comments deliberately.

@Hazzy997

I don't blame us Arabs for the minority(our leaders, small portion of populations). I agree with your post, but it covers a lot of history. Today there are alliances which divide the Arab world. Which is why Qatar is hosting Khaled Meshaal.

If he is insulting Arab people as a whole then I condemn and he knows that.

 

[al-Hasani]

I don't blame us Arabs for the minority(our leaders, small portion of populations). I agree with your post, but it covers a lot of history. Today there are alliances which divide the Arab world. Which is why Qatar is hosting Khaled Meshaal.

If he is insulting Arab people as a whole then I condemn and he knows that.

Just to end this leadership talk and leaders who btw. are not even close to representing the 450 million or so Arabs and who are deciding on their own (people have little say like anywhere else in the Muslim world) but then there are several Arab countries who are supporting Hamas and I think that there is no doubt that all Arab states are supporting Palestine and Palestinians but not all agree with the ones that claim to represent Palestine. Be it Hamas or Abu Mozen. Anyway what is important here in my opinion is to stand by with the Palestinians no matter what and even the leaders that claim to represent the Palestinian people. If 1 or 2 Arab countries disagree with an approach of say Fatah then point it out among them and tell them why but otherwise support the cause which most also do. On the other hand not everything can be supported as some policies are outright harmful for the Palestinian people and the Palestinian cause and we cannot ignore that.

But we know the complicated situation and we also know that if for instance nearby Egypt started sending rockets to Hamas that Israel would only hit much harder and no military victory or objectives (Palestinian state, all rights to Palestinians, illegal Jews out of West Bank etc.) would happen.

So it is a messed up situation.
This would not have happened had the Muslim world been the strongest party here. Now everything that happens and has happened since 1948 is at the mercy of the West and its loyal supporters of Israel. Sadly this is the truth and no rifles, pipes or Qatar hosting Mashaal etc. will change that.

 

[Falcon29]

Just to end this leadership talk and leaders who btw. are not even close to representing the 450 million or so Arabs and who are deciding on their own (people have little say like anywhere else in the Muslim world) but then there are several Arab countries who are supporting Hamas and I think that there is no doubt that all Arab states are supporting Palestine and Palestinians but not all agree with the ones that claim to represent Palestine. Be it Hamas or Abu Mozen. Anyway what is important here in my opinion is to stand by with the Palestinians no matter what and even the leaders that claim to represent the Palestinian people. If 1 or 2 Arab countries disagree with an approach of say Fatah then point it out among them and tell them why but otherwise support the cause which most also do. On the other hand not everything can be supported as some policies are outright harmful for the Palestinian people and the Palestinian cause and we cannot ignore that.

But we know the complicated situation and we also know that if for instance nearby Egypt started sending rockets to Hamas that Israel would only hit much harder and no military victory or objectives (Palestinian state, all rights to Palestinians, illegal Jews out of West Bank etc.) would happen.

So it is a messed up situation.
This would not have happened had the Muslim world been the strongest party here. Now everything that happens and has happened since 1948 is at the mercy of the West and its loyal supporters of Israel. Sadly this is the truth and no rifles, pipes or Qatar hosting Mashaal etc. will change that.

I agree with most of your post except the part in the bold because I know who you're referring to. Let's avoid a discussion on that or a discussion on arming the Palestinians. Because that requires a lot of effort and strategy. It isn't black and white, you need military bright thinkers.

It is too long of a discussion and anyone with good ideas should keep it to himself. They should only discuss arming Palestine when there is a real consensus in the Muslim world to do so.