Neptune Subsonic Cruise Missiles hit S-400 ADS

[Beny Karachun]

Because Greece is so weak country which produce nothing

Greece has 90 SCALP air launched Cruise Missiles to attack on huge Turkiye ( almost 1.800 km from west to east )


on the other hand
Turkiye has 95 POPEYE , 50 SLAM-ER and 400 SOM air launched Cruise Missiles

Also thousands of TRG-122 , TRG-300 , ATACMS , YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN , ATMACA , KGK , TOLUN , SDM , IHA-230 , KUZGUN , CAKIR , KEMANKES , SIMSEK , SUPER SIMSEK , DELI , AZAB , ALPAGUT , KARGI on the way

Greece is a tiny country
and all military targets in Greece - Greek Islands in range of Turkish missiles , guided munitions and kamikaze drones


BTW
Greece doesnt have technology to produce Air Defense Systems

Turkiye has its own technology to produce KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , GOKDEMIR , HISAR-A/O and SIPER Air Defense Systems to intercept Fighter Jets , Cruise Missiles and Kamikaze Drones

Okay but you say Turkey can launch 100 missiles of various types on Patriot and destroy it.

Why can't Greece do the same? or do you think Turkish air defenses will not be hurt?

 

[Mr.JoJI]

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Patriot systems that were given to Ukraine are more capable than the ones sold to countries in the Middle East.

But Poland is receiving most advanced Patriot systems.

American technology is TOP NOTCH.

The Term "more capable" has been the biggest red herring. What does it means to be more capable? Increased radar ranges, resistance to jamming, counter jamming, faster locking and firing?

 

[MMM-E]

Okay but you say Turkey can launch 100 missiles of various types on Patriot and destroy it.

Why can't Greece do the same? or do you think Turkish air defenses will not be hurt?

Greece doesnt have even 100 air launched Cruise Missiles ..... only 90 SCALP Missiles

and 90 SCALP Missiles are not enough to destroy all military targets in Turkiye
even most of 90 SCALP Missiles will be intercepted by Turkish AD Systems


on the other hand , Greek PATRIOTs with 32 Missiles in Skyros Island will be face against
Thousands of TRG-300 , YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN , ATMACA , SOM , AKBABA , KGK-LR , TOLUN-IIR , SDM , IHA-230 , KUZGUN-TJ , CAKIR , KEMANKES , SIMSEK , SUPER SIMSEK , AZAB , KARGI

Even we dont need 500+ ATACMS , SLAM-ER , JSOW , HARM , POPEYE and HARPOON Block2


if we destroyed Greek PATRIOT AD Systems in Skyros Island , then PATRIOTs in Athens can not do anything to protect Greek Islands which are 3-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

and GAME OVER ! .... Greece will lose most of Islands in a large scale of war

as like Ukraine lost Crimea , Donetsk and Luhansk .. also after holding staged referendums in 2022, Russia declared that it had annexed Kherson


Still we hear American tales about PATRIOT AD Systems in Ukraine .... Ukraine never can match with Russia to re-take Crimea , Donetsk and Luhansk

 

[Foinikas]

if we destroyed Your PATRIOT AD Systems in Skyros Island , then PATRIOTs in Athens can not do anything to protect Greek Islands which are 3-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

They wouldn't do anything anyway

You seem to ignore that apart from Air Defences,we also have an Air Force.

Because Greece is so weak country which produce nothing

Greece has 90 SCALP air launched Cruise Missiles to attack on huge Turkiye ( almost 1.800 km from west to east )

I've told you many times before that we had 90 SCALP-EG before the Rafale deal. With the Rafale deal we got an additional number of SCALP-EG (classified how many). But you ignore that and keep mentioning the same number.

Second,it was revealed that Ukraine was given non-export versions which can reach 550 km. What makes you think France,which has signed a mutual defence treaty with Greece,will not give such versions to us if a war starts?

Greece is a tiny country
and all military targets in Greece - Greek Islands in range of Turkish missiles , guided munitions and kamikaze drones

Well for you every country is tiny,weak and pathetic against a Turkish attack. You've already "conquered" Iran,Israel,Russia,Ukraine,you make it all sound so easy.

Turkiye can produce 17.000 KEMANKES , SIMSEK , KUZGUN-TJ , TOLUN-IIR , KGK-LR , IHA-230 for $1,7 billion to turn all Ukranian Forces including PATRIOTs into scrap of metal ..... ( cost effective solution )

AGAIN THAT IS PURELY THEORETICAL.

Do you understand the difference? You keep repeating it again and again. It's PURELY THEORETICAL. Only Iran has managed to mass produce UAVs and kamikaze drones and we don't know the amount of time it took them to do that.

And what you also forget,is that the Patriot systems are protected by other systems as well in Ukraine. IRIS-T,NASAMS,Crotale,Aspide,HAWK,Avenger etc. Gepard and Bofors can also shoot down kamikaze drones.

I think they gave them Mistral too? @LeGenD

 

[Foinikas]

Your so-called EW Jamming can not do anything against Turkish SUPER SIMSEK , KARGI and KEMANKES Loitering Munitions which are durable against any attempts of electronic jamming due to its Anti-jamming capabilities

Yeah that's what the Russians used to claim about the Pantsir too

Now you'll say: "Do not compare pathetic Russia with Turkey!"

You forget that most of your products are untested. Many haven't even been produced yet and some not mass produced.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

They wouldn't do anything anyway

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You seem to ignore that apart from Air Defences,we also have an Air Force.



I've told you many times before that we had 90 SCALP-EG before the Rafale deal. With the Rafale deal we got an additional number of SCALP-EG (classified how many). But you ignore that and keep mentioning the same number.

Second,it was revealed that Ukraine was given non-export versions which can reach 550 km. What makes you think France,which has signed a mutual defence treaty with Greece,will not give such versions to us if a war starts?




Well for you every country is tiny,weak and pathetic against a Turkish attack. You've already "conquered" Iran,Israel,Russia,Ukraine,you make it all sound so easy.


AGAIN THAT IS PURELY THEORETICAL.

Do you understand the difference? You keep repeating it again and again. It's PURELY THEORETICAL. Only Iran has managed to mass produce UAVs and kamikaze drones and we don't know the amount of time it took them to do that.

And what you also forget,is that the Patriot systems are protected by other systems as well in Ukraine. IRIS-T,NASAMS,Crotale,Aspide,HAWK,Avenger etc. Gepard and Bofors can also shoot down kamikaze drones.

I think they gave them Mistral too? @LeGenD

He has come From Kaliber $6M per unit to $1M per unit.
He thinks Turkey can produce thousands of Simseks but the reality is Turkish Company itself accepts that it can produce only 8 to 9 Simseks per Month and that's during peacetime

During War,a huge manpower is needed for repairment of damaged weapons so that capability will even fall down.

 

[dilpakistani]

So if this is to imply that we also don't have to worry about India's S400 then this must be a joke. Ukraine is not fighting alone, it is supported by the western block. India wouldn't be fighting alone with us ... it would be supported by western block... there is a reason why our generals and politicians are begging peace with India... 2019 was 4 years ago... 2023's Pakistan is a fragile country with no future insight... no constitution ... no governance ... no viability ... no nation ... India doesn't need to do a thing anymore... we are on a path of self destruct....

 

[MMM-E]

They wouldn't do anything anyway

Your PATRIOT AD System to protect Greek Mainland

only PATRIOTs in Skyros Island can coverage a few Islands

look at the map
S300s and PATRIOTs can not coverage Greek Islands which are 3-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

I've told you many times before that we had 90 SCALP-EG before the Rafale deal. With the Rafale deal we got an additional number of SCALP-EG (classified how many). But you ignore that and keep mentioning the same number.

Second,it was revealed that Ukraine was given non-export versions which can reach 550 km. What makes you think France,which has signed a mutual defence treaty with Greece,will not give such versions to us if a war starts?

How many ? 100 or 500 ? no any official deal ... only rumors

and France can not violate MTRC agreement against a NATO Member

then Turkiye can take 2.500 km Ballistic Missiles to coverage all Europe

 

[Beny Karachun]

Greece doesnt have even 100 air launched Cruise Missiles ..... only 90 SCALP Missiles

and 90 SCALP Missiles are not enough to destroy all military targets in Turkiye
even most of 90 SCALP Missiles will be intercepted by Turkish AD Systems


on the other hand , Greek PATRIOTs with 32 Missiles in Skyros Island will be face against
Thousands of TRG-300 , YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN , ATMACA , SOM , AKBABA , KGK-LR , TOLUN-IIR , SDM , IHA-230 , KUZGUN-TJ , CAKIR , KEMANKES , SIMSEK , SUPER SIMSEK , AZAB , KARGI

Even we dont need 500+ ATACMS , SLAM-ER , JSOW , HARM , POPEYE and HARPOON Block2


if we destroyed Greek PATRIOT AD Systems in Skyros Island , then PATRIOTs in Athens can not do anything to protect Greek Islands which are 3-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

and GAME OVER ! .... Greece will lose most of Islands in a large scale of war

as like Ukraine lost Crimea , Donetsk and Luhansk .. also after holding staged referendums in 2022, Russia declared that it had annexed Kherson


Still we hear American tales about PATRIOT AD Systems in Ukraine .... Ukraine never can match with Russia to re-take Crimea , Donetsk and Luhansk

Okay, but if Greece launches 90 SCALP missiles at the S-400, will the S-400 be destroyed, like you claim you can do to the Patriot?

 

[MMM-E]

AGAIN THAT IS PURELY THEORETICAL.

Do you understand the difference? You keep repeating it again and again. It's PURELY THEORETICAL. Only Iran has managed to mass produce UAVs and kamikaze drones and we don't know the amount of time it took them to do that

Turkiye has far better technology than Iran

and Turkish UCAVs , Kamikaze Drones are far better than Iranian ones


Turkiye focused on superior guidance technologies for Kamikaze Drones ,, RF seeker , IR Camera to find and destroy enemy targets

Speed of mach 1,4 with new Engines

and Resistant to any attempts of electronic jamming due to its anti-jamming capabilities




Combat proven UCAV Technology
Turkiye was become UCAV super power in the World with TB-2 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI
and soon TB-3 , ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA

USA , Turkiye , Israel , China


Kamikaze Drone technology
Turkiye has great technology for Kamikaze Drones - Loitering Munitions too

in the next conflict , whole World will see Turkish Kamikaze Drones - Loitering Munitions

SIMSEK
SUPER SIMSEK
DELI
AZAB
ALPAGUT
KARGI
KEMANKES


It's very easy for Türkiye to develop and produce Kamikaze Drones - Loitering Munitions

Turkiye has developed even cutting edge technology KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
and mass production start in 2024

 

[alimobin memon]

Truth is West hides its loses. There has been many hits on Patriots. But no one admits. Saudi Oil fields hit is another example.

 

[Foinikas]

He has come From Kaliber $6M per unit to $1M per unit.
He thinks Turkey can produce thousands of Simseks but the reality is Turkish Company itself accepts that it can produce only 8 to 9 Simseks per Month and that's during peacetime

During War,a huge manpower is needed for repairment of damaged weapons so that capability will even fall down.

He also forgets that the Turkish economy is still very bad and that's why Erdogan goes here and there asking for investments.
Like always,he has fallen in many contradictions and you saw how easily he dismissed Legend's detailed posts as "American tales" and "Pathetic Russians". No matter how many I times I explained something to him,why he is wrong,he continues to use his claim. No matter the topic,historical,military,geopolitical etc.

Truth is West hides its loses. There has been many hits on Patriots. But no one admits. Saudi Oil fields hit is another example.

Not in Ukraine. Besides,when Russians have proof,they show it. But most of the time they talk without showing any truth.

And this comes from me,I've been largely pro-Russian in my life,but well...they've also usually lie about casualties during wars. Not always,but they do it. As for the Saudi oil fields,please read the detailed post #44 by Legend.

 

[MMM-E]

Okay, but if Greece launches 90 SCALP missiles at the S-400, will the S-400 be destroyed, like you claim you can do to the Patriot?

Then it's possible to destroy S400 with swarm attack by 90 SCALP Missiles at the same time


Turkiye needs 6 KORKUT SPAAGs .. 6 HISAR-O Launchers with 36 missiles and 6 GOKDEMIR launchers with 48 missiles to intercept 90 SCALP Missiles


also in a conflict , 4 AKINCI UCAVs armed with 32 GOKDOGAN air to air missiles can stand in the air 24/7 for air launched defense capability to protect S400s



Greece needs 3.240 SCALP Missiles to destroy 36 Turkish S400 launchers ,,, if Greece use swarm attacks by 90 SCALP mssiles


even France has only 500 SCALP Missiles and 1 SCALP Missile = $2,5 million


on the other hand
Turkish SIMSEK , IHA-230 , KUZGUN-TJ , KEMANKES are cost effective weapons = $50.000 - $100.000

 

[Foinikas]

Turkiye has far better technology than Iran

and Turkish UCAVs , Kamikaze Drones are far better than Iranian ones


Turkiye focused on superior guidance technologies for Kamikaze Drones ,, RF seeker , IR Camera to find end destroy enemy targets

Speed of mach 1,4 with new Engines

and Resistant to any attempts of electronic jamming due to its anti-jamming capabilities




Combat proven UCAV Technology
Turkiye was become UCAV super power in the World with TB-2 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI
and soon TB-3 , ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA

USA , Turkiye , Israel , China


Kamikaze Drone technology
Turkiye has great technology for Kamikaze Drones - Loitering Munitions too

in the next conflict , whole World will see Turkish Kamikaze Drones - Loitering Munitions

SIMSEK
SUPER SIMSEK
DELI
AZAB
ALPAGUT
KARGI
KEMANKES


It's very easy for Türkiye to develop and produce Kamikaze Drones - Loitering Munitions

Turkiye has developed even cutting edge technology KIZILELMA unmanned steal Fighter Jet
and mass production start in 2024

All that you keep repeating is useless. You've posted it dozens of times already. You are talking like someone who is trying hard to advertise and sell Turkish products. You do not understand how THEORETICAL all that you are saying is. Only you assume that Turkey has the capacity to produce "thousands" of Simsek in a sort time period or all that stuff. You're not the Soviet Union,you're not USA of the '40s.

 

[MMM-E]

And this comes from me,I've been largely pro-Russian in my life,but well...they've also usually lie about casualties during wars. Not always,but they do it. As for the Saudi oil fields,please read the detailed post #44 by Legend.

American fairy tales from LEGEND


PATRIOT or S400 , never can stop swarm attacks

You need other short-medium range SAMs to counter swarm attacks by low flying Cruise Missiles and Kamikaze Drones

therefore Turkish KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , GOKDEMIR , HISAR-A/O will protect S400 and SIPER AD Systems from Cruise Missiles and Kamikaze Drones

You do not understand how THEORETICAL all that you are saying is. Only you assume that Turkey has the capacity to produce "thousands" of Simsek in a sort time period or all that stuff. You're not the Soviet Union,you're not USA of the '40s

No need thousands of SIMSEK , KEMANKES , KUZGUN-TJ , IHA-230

Only 100 SIMSEK , KEMANKES , KUZGUN-TJ , IHA-230 will be enough to destroy 1 PATRIOT Battery in Skyros Island

and GAME OVER !
Other S300s and PATRIOTs can not coverage Greek Islands which are 3-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland