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Top US envoy arrives in Pakistan

ISLAMABAD, Nov 16, 2007 (AFP) - Top US diplomat John Negroponte arrived in Pakistan on Friday, the US embassy said, for talks with officials in which he is expected to press for an end to emergency rule.
"I can confirm he has arrived," US embassy spokeswoman Elizabeth Colton told AFP.

Negroponte, number two to US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, is the highest ranking US official to come to Pakistan since President Pervez Musharraf declared a state of emergency on November 3.

AFP
 
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AS he had arrived BB had already beged him to threaten Pakistan with aid cut.

wow what sincer leaders we have in shape of champions of democracy.
 
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US envoy should threaten to cut Pakistan aid: Bhutto

LONDON, Nov 16, 2007 (AFP) - The United States should threaten to cut aid to Pakistan to press it to restore democracy, opposition leader Benazir Bhutto said Friday before a meeting between a US envoy and President Pervez Musharraf.
But in an interview with Britain's Sky News television she voiced doubt about an immediate cut in US assistance to the country.


"I would like to see aid used as a leverage to influence General Musharraf as well as the armed forces ... They're benefitting from the immense international assistance that is coming into Pakistan," she said.

John Negroponte, number two to US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, was due to arrive Friday to press US concerns. He was expected to meet Musharraf but officials said he had no plans to meet Bhutto.

"The signal that Mr. Negroponte should give is that this aid could stop," she said.

But she added: "I'm unsure whether we should straight away stop that aid because sometimes getting aid restarted is difficult, and I think Pakistan needs that aid.

"Our people need that aid, but they need that aid coming to the people. It hasn't come to the people in the past."

Washington has been signalling its growing impatience with Musharraf over emergency rule, which he said was necessary to tackle Islamic militancy and a meddling judiciary.

US Defence Secretary Robert Gates even questioned his future effectiveness as a US ally in the fight against Al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

AFP
 
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With leaders like that, Pakistan does not require enemies!

Cutting aid will only harm Pakistan's interest.

A case of cutting the nose to spite the face!
 
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very well said Sir.

She had been termed the most unable leader of South Asia.
Its such a stupidity on part of person who had been two times PM is calling for aid cut and at the same time saying " she is fearing that getting this aid again would be difficult"
 
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Armed forces are already unhappy with both Bibi and Nawaz....Bibi provide the list of Sikh to India and Nawaz withdraw from Kargil. Both demoralize the armed forces. So, both are traitors.
 
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All above charges of corruption, commission and scandals, she came to Pakistan with the help of US, to participate in the election. Now the ultimate decision would be of the people of Pakistan to throw her out of parliament after her known loyalty with the country. But ironically we find such people dancing and chanting in her rallies. Is it our media failure to flash such politicians to the people or just people are atteracted to the feminine attributes.
 
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All above charges of corruption, commission and scandals, she came to Pakistan with the help of US, to participate in the election. Now the ultimate decision would be of the people of Pakistan to throw her out of parliament after her known loyalty with the country. But ironically we find such people dancing and chanting in her rallies. Is it our media failure to flash such politicians to the people or just people are atteracted to the feminine attributes.

...dont blame the media. they have to sell stories to earn a living. blame the people. i am sorry to say that the poor people who are un-aware, un-educated and un-able to change things at the ballot box are forced to vote for these "knights of democracy". lets face it BB is a story which the westerm media wants to follow. why? (woman in a muslim country). who wants to follow the dour, stupid and don quixotic NS!. Musharraf was a good story until he made two key errors - CJ case & NRO. the uniform also did not help his cause.
what is Negroponte going to do! flex his muscles like Mr. Armitage did and the General will fall in line! I dont think so. what will the US do cut off the aid!. ok say good-bye to WoT!!!
 
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The thing is that Musharaf is getting away from USA bcoz he have realized it that they are not concerbed with what Pakistan wants they are concerned with what they want, so after lots of tries to get Musharaf back they did not succeed, & now when they have realized that it is too late to get him back they are not diverting themselves to their old friend BB who have helped them in past 90's & is willing ot do the same now & shown by her comments like giving access IAEA access to Facilities of Pak, or Allowing USA to operate in Pak etc,
USA will do every thing to replace Musharaf with BB to get what they want & BB will do everything to get into the power.
The bad thing is that Musharaf is standing on one side fighting for the pride of this country ALONE & in other side all the traitors like,BB,NS are standing against him. the thing which is worse is that we people whi have to realize what is reight & what is wron are not doing the same we belive what we hear or what we see in th TV as we donot do any research but only blame govt.
90% of our people are not aware of the danger they are facing & remainging 10% donot care about it.

Musharaf is loosing support bcoz of the fals propongades spread by the Media & the Polititions, which most of us are not aware off, & the ones who are aware of it are not ready to accept it.

At this time we need to open our eyes & see what is reality we should see what polititions are doing they are just promoting provincilisim nothing else.

WAKE UP GUYS or IT WILL BE TOO LATE.
Support the "RIGHT" not the MIGHT.


Regards
Wilco

i am with Musharaf all the way.
 
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She champions democracy and the constitution yet according to the latter she cannot serve as prime minister again.

What are her motives in the current situation?
 
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I don't think superimposing western concepts of democracy will work in Pakistan.

It has to be shaped as per the local conditions.

It is time that the West left Pakistan alone even if the Pak democracy from the western standpoint was flawed!
 
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BB and the 2 Ganja Brothers are big time Traitors of Pakistan. I am living in USA and had sent few Letters to the Editors in Pakistani press, but they don't publish them. Me and my friends are working hard to make the people understand Mushrraf's policies, majority understands it and some uneducated don't, like the people who are demonstrating on roads in Pakistan. I blame all this to GEO & ARY.
 
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In what I have seen and heard she is the most stupid person. Even for a politician and I have seen and talked with many...
 
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Searching for a Pakistan Strategy

Thursday, Nov. 15, 2007 By MASSIMO CALABRESI/WASHINGTON

A little over a year ago President George W. Bush leaned across his podium at a White House press conference and told Pervez Musharraf he was "a strong defender of freedom and the people of Pakistan." Now he's sending the Pakistani President quite a different message. Last week, four days after Musharraf declared martial law, Bush called him and said, "you ought to have elections soon, and you need to take off your uniform. You can't be the President and the head of the military at the same time." This Friday he is dispatching his Deputy Secretary of State, John Negroponte, to tell Musharraf in person that he needs to do both those things and to restore civilian rule.


The unraveling in Pakistan is testing Bush's diplomatic abilities, and it's not just because the crisis is requiring him to confront a leader with whom he has had close ties since 9/11. More importantly, Bush is working without a clear strategy: even at this late date the White House still doesn't have a plan for protecting American interests in Pakistan without Musharraf. In essence Bush and the White House are winging it, trying to back Musharraf down from the current crisis while coming up with a longer-term approach to securing U.S. interests in the region.
That is a messy process involving multiple meetings between Bush and his top advisors and numerous discussions between staffers at State, the White House, the Pentagon and the CIA. So far, Negroponte's first goal on the mission this weekend is to try and salvage the prospect of power sharing between Musharraf and Benazir Bhutto. But aides are quietly acknowledging that the U.S. needs to think beyond both those flawed figures.
The problem is deciding what such a world looks like. Three different administration officials involved in the interagency deliberations over Pakistan this week told me there is not yet a clear approach for handling the crisis beyond the immediate diplomacy of Negroponte's visit. "I don't want to say the interagency has concluded anything at this point," said one senior White House official "It's a very fluid situation."
The goal at least is clear, even if the administration doesn't know how to get there. Says one official involved in the interagency discussions: "At the end of the day, how do we get maximum cooperation with the Pakistani government in light of the fact that the most recent National Intelligence Estimate says al Qaeda is trying to reestablish its headquarters in the tribal areas."
Bush's aides say the President is flexible and willing to entertain a variety of possible routes forward. "It's going to take some time to figure out where this ends up," says press secretary Dana Perino. She says the White House is resisting, "a black and white answer to what is a very gray situation."
Some in Washington are looking to the military, and in particular Gen. Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani, the deputy chief of the army staff, as a reassuring figure. "On the asset side of the ledger," says one State department official, "We've got a really good relationship with Kiyani. People know him. He has long term political ambitions and he's patient enough to keep them in the long term."
But there is dispute in the administration, and in Congress, over whether the U.S. should repeat the personality-based approach that has produced such problems with Musharraf. Senator Joe Biden is pushing for a massive increase in non-military aid and a conditioning of military aid to progress on democracy. Some are pushing that approach in the interagency discussions, but others see the military as the safest bet for the future. Until that debate is sorted out, Bush and his diplomatic team will have to buy time with makeshift diplomacy of the sort unfolding now in Washington.
 
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