Nearly 4,000 army soldiers killed in last 12 years: AK Antony

[Windjammer]

Those so called nerves of steel believes in surrendering in masses before enemy

No, more recently it proved the fact of keeping the enemy at the border for a whole year. !!

2001–2002 India–Pakistan standoff
The standoff inflicted heavy casualties. It took India months to mobilize and lost 789 men[3] to 1874 men[23] in the standoff. Around 100 soldiers were killed in the initial phase of laying mines, another 250 were injured. The remaining casualties were a result of artillery duels with Pakistan and vehicle accidents. The Pakistani losses were estimated to be about 34 casualties and 10 injuries.

Cost of standoff

The Indian cost for the buildup was 21,600 crore (US$3.93 billion) being much greater than that of Pakistani $1.4 billion.[24]

2001

 

[Zarvan]

New Delhi, Nov 26, 2012 (PTI):

Nearly 4,000 soldiers have been killed in the country after the Kargil operations in 1999 while more than 390 Army troops have committed suicide in the last three years, Lok Sabha was informed today.

In another written reply in Lok Sabha, Defence Minister A K Antony said more than 25,000 Junior Commissioned Officers and jawans have proceeded on pre-mature retirement in the last three years.

"530 soldiers were martyred during Kargil War under operation Vijay. 3,987 soldiers have been killed afterwards during the years 2000-2012," he said.

The Indian Army is deployed in counter-insurgency and counter terrorist operations in Jammu and Kashmir and northeastern states for over two decades. In addition, they are also guarding the Line of Control (LoC) with Pakistan in Jammu and Kashmir.

On suicides in the force, Antony said, "A total of 394 Army personnel committed suicide between 2009 up to November 20, this year."

Recently, the suicide by a jawan in an armoured unit in Samba in J-K had led to a face-off between officers and soldiers after which a detailed court of inquiry was ordered.

Antony said in last three years, 25,063 Army personnel have opted for pre-mature retirement.

"However, reasons for seeking premature retirement cannot be attributed to stressful working environment," the Minister said.

As per the figures provided by the Ministry, 7,499 personnel took premature retirement in 2009, 7,249 in 2010 and 10,315 in 2011.

Nearly 4,000 Army soldiers killed in last 12 years: Antony

Man you only lost few soldiers than us we have lost them in this so called war on terror and you lost 4000 soldiers really need to check your country man

 

[Amolthebest]

No, more recently it proved the fact of keeping the enemy at the border for a whole year. !!


2001

If you are talking about Us drone attacks and US marines, no they won't.

 

[IND151]

Man you only lost few soldiers than us we have lost them in this so called war on terror and you lost 4000 soldiers really need to check your country man

Also take into account difference between size of two armies.

PA has 10,50,000 troops whereas IA has 20,89,900 troops.

 

[LOVETOALL]

IA fighting insurgency has proved to be better than PA. You can campare our operations in Kashmir, North East, Siachen and your operation in NWFP, Balouchistan, your Siachen.

 

[Windjammer]

If you are talking about Us drone attacks and US marines, no they won't.

Since 26/11 has just passed....i will not mention any slow boat sailing right down your throat. !!

 

[LOVETOALL]

Since 26/11 has just passed....i will not mention any slow boat sailing right down your throat. !!

At least world is discussing it, not like 26/11-Salala

 

[Spring Onion]

IA fighting insurgency has proved to be better than PA. You can campare our operations in Kashmir, North East, Siachen and your operation in NWFP, Balouchistan, your Siachen.

No it doesnt because In India the Indian govt put curfew even if one person is killed . Operating in an area with its population enclosed in a shell is much easier than working in bordering areas of Pakistan where there are many many openings for inflitrating by terrorists .

You can NOT compare IOK wich is encircled by Indian army with no open line of control with NWFP which has many many border openings.

If you check your NE you will see your army is NOT operational much there and you will see less deaths and also you failed to contain Moaists and other sepratists there.

 

[Spring Onion]

That why 93000 soldier surrender without fighting....:
And PA has no guts to enter Waziristan and fight, which is their own country even TTP openly realising video of beheaded soldier...

You feel no shame in hiding behind such comments.

It should be more shamful for Indians to lose 4000 soldiers in peace time. The majority of whom committed suicide owing to weak nerves .

Your comments about Indian State terrorism in 71 do not in anyway justify your claim.

You should accept that your army is frustrated enough to commit suicide

 

[Spring Onion]

Kindly edit the bolded part.

It will only attract trolls

IND151 i stand by my comments. My understanding is that if you place India in Pakistan's shoes viz a viz current active war against such high scale terrorism with all international players one way or the other siding with different groups other than Pakistan, i bet and say it with conviction, Indian army would have much much much higher rate of deaths specially suicides keeping in mind, the track record of Indian armymen working in tense envirnoment.

 

[LOVETOALL]

You feel no shame in hiding behind such comments.

It should be more shamful for Indians to lose 4000 soldiers in peace time. The majority of whom committed suicide owing to weak nerves .

Your comments about Indian State terrorism in 71 do not in anyway justify your claim.

You should accept that your army is frustrated enough to commit suicide

If breaking backbone of insurgency in kashmir, north east, holding siachen is frustration and
PA army not ready to enter their own land in NW afraid of TTP, their desperation to solve Siachen is steel man.

Then we are happy with frustation..

 

[Windjammer]

At least world is discussing it, not like 20/11-Salala

The World is even discussing Israel and Palestine issue.....the bottom line is what the world or you can do about it. !!
After Salala, the Americans apologised....we choked their supply lines.....which still remain in a limbo.
Whatever goes on elsewhere is not going to change the dilemma faced by the IA....which may i again remind you is the topic at hand. !!

 

[LOVETOALL]

No it doesnt because In India the Indian govt put curfew even if one person is killed . Operating in an area with its population enclosed in a shell is much easier than working in bordering areas of Pakistan where there are many many openings for inflitrating by terrorists .

You can NOT compare IOK wich is encircled by Indian army with no open line of control with NWFP which has many many border openings.

If you check your NE you will see your army is NOT operational much there and you will see less deaths and also you failed to contain Moaists and other sepratists there.

It is you border. Its you army responsibility to block it. Open border is not an excuse. You can also encircle you NWFP and then start operation.

Regarding north east insurgency has decreased, hence army has partially withdrawn. These days ou will hardly find any news from these area about insurrgency.

 

[Spring Onion]

It is you border. Its you army responsibility to block it. Open border is not an excuse. You can also encircle you NWFP and then start operation.

Regarding north east insurgency has decreased, hence army has partially withdrawn. These days ou will hardly find any news from these area about insurrgency.

Indeed its our border and our responsibility and our soldiers are doing pretty good. we are happy that our casualties are not that high in active war as compared to yours that too in peace time

If breaking backbone of insurgency in kashmir, north east, holding siachen is frustration and
PA army not ready to enter their own land in NW afraid of TTP, their desperation to solve Siachen is steel man.

Then we are happy with frustation..

More power to your happiness may you get more happiness doubling the number of frustration in coming new year

 

[LOVETOALL]

Indeed its our border and our responsibility and our soldiers are doing pretty good. we are happy that our casualties are not that high in active war as compared to yours that too in peace time


More power to your happiness may you get more happiness doubling the number of frustration in coming new year

Active war.... PA has still not entered area and started operation. They think about that after Malala incident but back off.