NCM has lost legitimacy.

[crigar]

all Imran needed was once he knew there is a conspiracy going on against him started a purge like one in turkey. but khan is khan couldn't even the barking dogs of media stopped.

 

[khansaheeb]

Article 6 of treason must be initiated against Opposition leaders and the one absconder sitting in London. IK gov must do this ASAP.
Otherwise all your diplomatic protests to US mean zilch.

IK should have acted quickly and decisively like Erdogan and he didn't because he is not capable as Erdogan. IK's failure to take advantage of the pandemonium is a reflection of his poor political skills , he doesn't know or realise that as PM he has considerable power of the people behind him. He lost the opportunity to consolidate and instead flapped around like a headless chicken with his aides just spectating. The only conclusion I can come to is that they are all part of the same game and gang, carefully chosen and sworn to secrecy. The game is to keep the Pakistani people economically down and the gang are rewarded with money laundering access to Swiss accounts. The Pakistani people are hoodwinked into being happy with what little they have and too economically weak and disorientated to put up any meaningful opposition to the injustices they are suffering.

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Are you planning to go Nigeria?

 

[shayyman]

IK should have acted quickly and decisively like Erdogan and he didn't because he is not capable as Erdogan. IK's failure to take advantage of the pandemonium is a reflection of his poor political skills , he doesn't know or realise that as PM he has considerable power of the people behind him. He lost the opportunity to consolidate and instead flapped around like a headless chicken with his aides just spectating. The only conclusion I can come to is that they are all part of the same game and gang, carefully chosen and sworn to secrecy. The game is to keep the Pakistani people economically down and the gang are rewarded with money laundering access to Swiss accounts. The Pakistani people are hoodwinked into being happy with what little they have and too economically weak and disorientated to put up any meaningful opposition to the injustices they are suffering.


Are you planning to go Nigeria?

Don't think you understand the situation anymore than superficially considering that you think IK is part of the same "gang" you say - shows you lack basic understanding of even clearest things. Erdogan was facing a coup from military. IK is not. Erdogan was sure to be ousted. IK is not. There was no proof of foreign intervention proven against Erdogan in black and white. For IK it is. Erdogan is playing in a presidential system setup. IK is not. Dynamics are totally different here. and There are several steps IK can take which he will, just wait a while. He will come out victorious one way or another, you can write it down.

P.S: IK is the only leader in Muslim bloc who can stand up in UN and talk eyeball to eyeball on islamophobia and our prophet. Erdogan can never do that (with all respect to him and Turks). It's because Erdogan works mainly for Turkey's interests. All his policies are centered around Turkey for most part. IK works mainly for Muslim interests. His policies are centered around not only Pakistan. This is the reason he has shaken many.

IK is the single most greatest muslim leader of current era. No one can stand up to his grandeur. And i mean it after analyzing him for 25 years - not emotionally.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

IK will go home and PAkistan will again enter american camp against russia and not china. THis is what it is. Establishment ki kaapein taang rahi hain ameerika say

As I posted in another thread, Bajwa condemned Russian invasion, something Pakistan hadn’t done. He literally contradicted our own stand on Ukraine war bowing to his masters as expected. I believe army will get Foreign Ministry for orchestrating this NCM and billions in aid. They’re equal Zameer Farosh, not just that but also Mulk Farosh, worse than opposition. And with this NCM, they’ll loose support of the only Pro-Pakistanis (IK voters). And today he’s ousted as establishment is hand in cuff with the opposition and foreign powers, what guarantee do we have that tomorrow IK be allowed to even come back to power? If they’re not letting IK in power for another 1.5 years, do you think they’ll let him in for another 5? The biggest threat to IK is this establishment. Tomorrow they’ll have their own favourite judge, their own favourite chief and America whom they worship.

IK claim is bit doubtful because why he waited till 27th March for all this and when MQMP joined opposition he called NSC meeting. This all seems like political point scoring for PTI. Even if NCM is failed how can he run assembly with so many defections within his Party. His only option is to get his party in order and get majority in next elections.

Why Foreign Minister was meeting US officials on 21st March?

Most important today COAS General Bajwa said we have good relations with US and pretty much went against Russia.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1510147734250332161

Russian invasion of Ukraine must be stopped immediately: COAS Bajwa​

Russian invasion of Ukraine must be stopped immediately: COAS Bajwa

Terms invasion a "huge tragedy", says Russia's aggression cannot be condoned despite its legitimate security concerns.

www.dawn.com

Most important today COAS General Bajwa said we have good relations with US and pretty much went against Russia.

IK will go home and PAkistan will again enter american camp against russia and not china. THis is what it is. Establishment ki kaapein taang rahi hain ameerika say

He actually said Russia's security concerns are legitimate and Pakistan is not into camp politics..a big disappointment for west.
Technically its an invasion and Russian itself says what they did is an invasion..
Not just Bajwa even Khan said the war was unfortunate...

No one from Pakistan condoned the war.Nor we should.
Condemning is not the same thing as "not condoning"

Go listen to his speech and come back comment again.

 

[khansaheeb]

Don't think you understand the situation anymore than superficially considering that you think IK is part of the same "gang" you say - shows you lack basic understanding of even clearest things. Erdogan was facing a coup from military. IK is not. Erdogan was sure to be ousted. IK is not. There was no proof of foreign intervention proven against Erdogan in black and white. For IK it is. Erdogan is playing in a presidential system setup. IK is not. Dynamics are totally different here. and There are several steps IK can take which he will, just wait a while. He will come out victorious one way or another, you can write it down.

P.S: IK is the only leader in Muslim bloc who can stand up in UN and talk eyeball to eyeball on islamophobia and our prophet. Erdogan can never do that (with all respect to him and Turks). It's because Erdogan works mainly for Turkey's interests. All his policies are centered around Turkey for most part. IK works mainly for Muslim interests. His policies are centered around not only Pakistan. This is the reason he has shaken many.

IK is the single most greatest muslim leader of current era. No one can stand up to his grandeur. And i mean it after analyzing him for 25 years - not emotionally.

You have put it too simplistically but the parallels are very similar. Erdogan became a fugitive in one night and had to go into hiding while was on a vacation. Yes there was a military coup in Turkey and the parallels are very similar in Pakistan where have a political coup instigated by Western powers. Erdogan didn’t have the support of the Turkey’s National Intelligence Organisation and the head of the armed forces General Hulusi Akar very much like the position IK is in today where he doesn’t have the support of either the army chief or the head of ISI. Erdogan had support of his political cadres and aides very much like IK does today. Erdogan had the confidence and stature to deal with the coup and made a tough statement to the people that he wasn’t going to go down without a fight: "Let us gather at our squares and airports – and let them come with their tanks and cannons. Let them do what they will. I have yet to see any power greater than that of the people," he told Firat. “. IK too made a passionate speech to the people but he got a diluted response and only his die hard supporters ran to the capital in support. It seems IK has been alienated from the people and did not get the support he was wishing for. His detachment from the hardships the people of Pakistan had been facing was blatantly obvious. He was no longer the popular leader he thought he was, he was too remote from the suffering of the people and was blinkered to the fact that he had alienated a lot of his voters who were disillusioned by his fiscal policies. Unlike IK Erdogan was highly popular with his people, who without a flinch proactively stormed the streets in support and defiantly met him at Ankara airport when he landed. IK has hardy any supporters other than on pdf who are mostly living luxurious lifestyles overseas and cushioned from any economic downturns in Pakistan’s economy.

 

[khail007]

Discuss: The NCM clearly is a foreign conspiracy, hatched to bring Pakistan back under control of the Western imperialism. After the NSC statement regarding the ultimatum sent by the US President Joe Biden, the NCM has lost its legitimacy and therefore must be stopped in its tracks by the institutions like the honorable Judiciary.

Discuss, pros, cons and strategies.

Thank you.

Sir G, you were right and same just proven today.

 

[Kompromat]

Speaker has exercised his power by invoking article-5. The foreign sponsored NCM has been declared unconstitutional.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Speaker has exercised his power by invoking article-5. The foreign sponsored NCM has been declared unconstitutional.

But SC can have another say on it. Lets see.

Anyways IK played well today. He did what ever he can even if SC revokes deputy speakers steps today.