Nawaz Sharif's Assets

[IceCold]

Perhaps Imran wants to import his finance minister from US. Because all he got here is mostly brain dead people who don't even understand the basic concepts of how economy works.

yeah we dont understand how economy works but the funny part is even when all the pml n and its supporters know how economy works, the country still turns out to be on the verge of bankruptcy when n government goes out.

 

[BetterPakistan]

Ok, I was a little bored and was reading news online. Came across Nawaz Sharif assets which are released by ECP two days ago. Here is simple search into Nawaz Sharif's assets:


Net Assets declared by NS in his nomination papers (April 2013) = Rs. 0.262 billions
(He was broken, received some loan from his mother and son as per his nomination papers)


In Dec, 2013, ECP published latest assets, NS assets = Rs 1.824 billions
(whooping increase in less than a year)


9th Jan, 2015, a year later, ECP again published assets details. NS Assets = Rs 2.36 billions
(this makes NS the riches politician of the country in less than a year)




Sources:

April 2013: What Nawaz Sharif has declared in his nomination form - thenews.com.pk

Dec, 2013: The ruling and the rich: ECP’s assets list reveals ‘billionaire club’ – The Express Tribune

Jan 2015: PM’s assets cross Rs 2b mark in a year | Pakistan Today



One more interesting thing, in 2013
Leaders’ wealth — Shahbaz richer than Nawaz - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

And in 2015:
PM Nawaz Sharif among richest Pak lawmakers at Rs 2bn | Business Standard News


Kia magic hey bhai??


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Hahahaha Itni taraqi 3 saal mai?

 

[SBD-3]

yeah we dont understand how economy works but the funny part is even when all the pml n and its supporters know how economy works, the country still turns out to be on the verge of bankruptcy when n government goes out.

Its working for the time being....Isn't it? Another interest rate cut on the cards, inflation at lower levels, macro economic fundamentals improving.To avoid 1999, I hope he won't have to conduct nuclear blasts ever again...

 

[Jazzbot]

Hahahaha Itni taraqi 3 saal mai?

His only source of income is Politics. Lets just leave whatever we are doing as a profession and enter politics, the most profitable business in Pakistan.

 

[Jazzbot]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=849565625086932

Interesting question by Kashif Abbasi, how PM (who was broken 1.5 years ago) became richest parliamentarian in just 1.5 years??

PS: I've added this video in my OP as well.

 

[TankMan]

1) Are you sure you are going to talk about "disobeying the court order" here.....I have a court order from a California court. Confirming a child's parenthood to IK and he abandoned the mother and the child (and did it twice now). What's more f'd up? Abandoning human beings or money?

See, so you admit that you're wrong, NS did do corruption . You're making a logical fallacy here. You're answering criticism with criticism. This entire thread is titled ''NAWAZ SHARIF's assets'', not ''what a horrible evil pashtun terrorist IK is''.
Your logical fallacy is tu quoque
You couldn't refute the argument so you went for a logical fallacy. Very good, very good .

Yes, I'm sure I'm going to talk about it. I never disobeyed a court order, there is nothing stopping me from criticizing those who do.

That California court order did not confirm anything. It clearly said ''DEFAULT JUDGEMENT'' because IK didn't fight the case. As for what's ''more f'd up'', robbing money that could mean the difference between life and death for thousands if not millions of people is more ''f'd up'' than refusing to accept someone's daughter as your own.

And no, he didn't ''do it twice''. Either way, that's all irrelevant. This thread is about NS.

2) NS has shown over a billion rupees worth of assets. I don't think he'd have an issue with showing a few more million dollars if those were directly under his name. Or if he had to disclose them under the Pakistani law.

Yeah, that first bold part is your problem. You don't think. Most of his assets are on his family's name. His home is under his mother's name and a good portion his assets are under his children and his brother's first and second wives.
Leaders’ wealth — Shahbaz richer than Nawaz - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
The mystery of Raiwind palace ownership - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Nawaz Sharif owns only one sugar mill? – The Express Tribune

Courts in the West don't do "mercy" or "favors" because you are Tony Blair or GW or NS. The do justice. The document and the little video you keep flashing, is just a court judgement. In business, it is VERY common to have ongoing legal issues that arise due to being in business.

Are you actually as delusional as to believe that courts in the west would be wasting their time chasing money stashed and laundered somewhere in Pakistan? Western courts are good but not perfect - they're humans, not Gods. They gave their judgement, but underhanded deals among the Pakistani politicians/businessmen, with the help of a few corrupt lawyers, could easily take care of the matter without being fair. You clearly have no idea about the loopholes and vulnerabilities in legal systems and how easy it is to manipulate them.

There are three different documents in there, not just one.
The videos I keep flashing are not court judgements . One of them is statements from the National Accountability Bureau and the other is a compilation of videos with statements from (PMLN) politicians. Shows that you didn't even watch them, happily ignorant in your unquestioning love of NS. Even if you don't understand Urdu, words such as 'corruption' and 'Nawaz Sharif' are pretty obvious.

 

[Danish saleem]

if these assets raised through corruption, then NS must be behind the bars!

Where does it say its "corruption"??? This is a court's verdict I believe, if this was proven that this was "corruption", it would've said it black and white. AND BY DEFAULT the CRIMINAL PENAL CODE of this country (or whatever country), would've IMMEDIATELY kicked in and it would be represented in the SAME document above where it would say something like: " as determined by the investigating agency (X), the corruption scandal determined by the court results in the jury finding party 1,2,3 and 4 guilty by the UK's legal criminal code procedures, and therefore, defendants are hereby ordered to serve X years in Jail. This ORDER of the court is bailable within 24 hours of this legal decree for $200,000.00" or something like this"

This is a civil case, the only thing the court says is that parties are ordered to pay. No corruption or anything. Please get some legal education before posting UTTER CRAP!

There own leaders says, that send money through Handi during Dharna, and when some else did that, so its a corruption for them!

 

[Viper0011.]

You're making a logical fallacy here. You're answering criticism with criticism. .

My "Fallacy" huh? lol. Yea.....your head's exactly where IK's cheap lie-based propaganda campaign is. You are worrying about my "lie" based fallacy when you believe system around IK runs on nothing but all lie.

What's worst? A fallacy of the truth or an entire campaign based on lying, accusation out of thin, farty, smelly air that got innocent people killed in ego-based sit-ins and damaged a country's reputation internationally, with a loss of billions??

I'd take anyone's "fallacy" of the truth, compared to ALL lying. Btw, the actual idiom or the term isn't "lie based fallacy", its "fallacy of the truth". Just thought I'd correct you. Your British-educated leader needs some educationl corrections too. He's gotten British education but acts like a Madrassa graduate by supporting violence.

 

[TankMan]

My "Fallacy" huh? lol. Yea.....your head's exactly where IK's cheap lie-based propaganda campaign is. You are worrying about my "lie" based fallacy when you believe system around IK runs on nothing but all lie.

What's worst? A fallacy of the truth or an entire campaign based on lying, accusation out of thin, farty, smelly air that got innocent people killed in ego-based sit-ins and damaged a country's reputation internationally, with a loss of billions??

I'd take anyone's "fallacy" of the truth, compared to ALL lying. Btw, the actual idiom or the term isn't "lie based fallacy", its "fallacy of the truth". Just thought I'd correct you. Your British-educated leader needs some educationl corrections too. He's gotten British education but acts like a Madrassa graduate by supporting violence.

You lost the argument, so now you write an entire rant in response to one sentence, instead of the actual argument.

First of all, get this through your thick, arrogant and uneducated skull that there is a huge difference between a logical fallacy and a ''fallacy of truth'' (a lie, basically). A logical fallacy is a flaw in reasoning. It has nothing to do with lies or truth.
Logical Fallacies
Logical fallacy - RationalWiki
Read up on it - logic can be fascinating.

By completely twisting my words, despite having them written right in front of you when you quoted them, you have committed yet another logical fallacy, the Straw man - which means that instead of arguing with me, you built up your own version of my argument and proceeded to beat it up by ranting like a maniac.
Your logical fallacy is strawman

Your clear disregard for logic and principles in arguments and nonsensical way of typing is sufficient evidence for your mental instability - to put it bluntly, you need to see a doctor.

my "lie" based fallacy

''lie based fallacy'', I never used those words.

system around IK runs on nothing but all lie.

Prove it. You're accusing, the burden of proof lies on you.

Btw, the actual idiom or the term isn't "lie based fallacy", its "fallacy of the truth". Just thought I'd correct you

See that strawman I was talking about? I never used the words ''lie based fallacy''. Never. In your arrogant attempt to 'correct me', you ended up making a total and utter fool of yourself.

Let me reiterate - a logical fallacy and a ''fallacy of the truth'' are two different things. Didn't your American madrassa teach you that? Practically a hundred percent of my education was in Pakistan, and I know this, along with a lot more than you can pull out of your delusional arse. You consider yourself superior to all of us ''madrassa'' Pakistanis, don't you? Well, you can shove it now. Egoistic prick.

Now how about we get back to the topic of this thread? It is titled NAWAZ SHARIF'S assets.
If you want to argue about how evil IK is, you should answer my arguments here, here,here, here, here,here, here and here.

Your persistence is really impressive, thank you for all the entertainment.

 

[WishLivePak]

See, so you admit that you're wrong, NS did do corruption . You're making a logical fallacy here. You're answering criticism with criticism. This entire thread is titled ''NAWAZ SHARIF's assets'', not ''what a horrible evil pashtun terrorist IK is''.
Your logical fallacy is tu quoque
You couldn't refute the argument so you went for a logical fallacy. Very good, very good .

Yes, I'm sure I'm going to talk about it. I never disobeyed a court order, there is nothing stopping me from criticizing those who do.

That California court order did not confirm anything. It clearly said ''DEFAULT JUDGEMENT'' because IK didn't fight the case. As for what's ''more f'd up'', robbing money that could mean the difference between life and death for thousands if not millions of people is more ''f'd up'' than refusing to accept someone's daughter as your own.

And no, he didn't ''do it twice''. Either way, that's all irrelevant. This thread is about NS.


Yeah, that first bold part is your problem. You don't think. Most of his assets are on his family's name. His home is under his mother's name and a good portion his assets are under his children and his brother's first and second wives.
Leaders’ wealth — Shahbaz richer than Nawaz - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
The mystery of Raiwind palace ownership - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Nawaz Sharif owns only one sugar mill? – The Express Tribune


Are you actually as delusional as to believe that courts in the west would be wasting their time chasing money stashed and laundered somewhere in Pakistan? Western courts are good but not perfect - they're humans, not Gods. They gave their judgement, but underhanded deals among the Pakistani politicians/businessmen, with the help of a few corrupt lawyers, could easily take care of the matter without being fair. You clearly have no idea about the loopholes and vulnerabilities in legal systems and how easy it is to manipulate them.

There are three different documents in there, not just one.
The videos I keep flashing are not court judgements . One of them is statements from the National Accountability Bureau and the other is a compilation of videos with statements from (PMLN) politicians. Shows that you didn't even watch them, happily ignorant in your unquestioning love of NS. Even if you don't understand Urdu, words such as 'corruption' and 'Nawaz Sharif' are pretty obvious.

He's a die hard anti-Imran activist. Even I'm surprised by the accusations he puts forth. Hence, he brings bad name to us anti-Imran people who at least put forth logic. What he fails to notice is, Nawaz is a bad person too.

I mean who the hell comes up with "pakhtoonistan." First time I'm hearing and that to from a person who isn't a Pakistani citizen. Looks like foreigners know more about Pakistan than Pakstanis themselves.

NOOO, like National Interest, this isn't the time for bickering, accusing and being violent. Time to support the government who is actually doing a lot of work to take the country forward. Time to be silent and be democratic, peaceful and respectful of the mandate that a MUCH bigger majority of Pakistan has assigned to someone. Let people who are working, finish working and their term. Was this enough of a definition for ya?

Are you stupidly seriousy?

Supporting democracy is one thing, being silent is another. Just because 50% (example) elects a gov't, it doesn't mean the rest of population keeps quiet and let the elected people do the job. This is why we've media, polls and whatnot. If the country is going to hell (which it is), there needs accountability. It doesn't mean we ignore what gov't does in 5 years and then kick them out afterwards. We've to put pressure right now, enough so the gov't doesn't topple but practices better government.

When Obama is elected in US, does the public remain silent for 4 years? They don't talk about obamacare, foreign policy or war and just judge him after 4 years? No, they put pressure and make him change his words.