Nawaz shareef hints at Army behind protest

[Contrarian]

Okay, fine, but they still won't be able to do it. NS has massive political support at this moment, there is no way the PA will be able to move against him, even if they're looking to cut of his control over Pakistan's foreign police and make him a lame duck. It's just not going to happen.

By the way, it has been implied that the army would commit a coup. PML-Q and Shujat said that they had contacts with the military to commit a coup, which obviously turned out to be a big fact lie.

That is just scare mongering. It is evidently clear to everyone that PA will not go for a coup. It makes no sense for them..and after Musharraf they will have to think fifty times before they become adventurous. The assertiveness of the political class along with the judiciary is a second dampener.

Though just to point you out - that GoP without policy control over India, Afghanistan and US is not a lame duck government. Its still a viable, functional and responsible government with duties to discharge. It would however be a constrained government.

However, PA is also becoming smarter with age...its a defacto coup, not a dejure one. They are fanning the protests via multiple avenues to put Nawaz under pressure..again to ensure that Nawaz does not encroach on what has traditionally been the Army's turf.

 

[That Guy]

That is just scare mongering. It is evidently clear to everyone that PA will not go for a coup. It makes no sense for them..and after Musharraf they will have to think fifty times before they become adventurous. The assertiveness of the political class along with the judiciary is a second dampener.

Though just to point you out - that GoP without policy control over India, Afghanistan and US is not a lame duck government. Its still a viable, functional and responsible government with duties to discharge. It would however be a constrained government.

However, PA is also becoming smarter with age...its a defacto coup, not a dejure one. They are fanning the protests via multiple avenues to put Nawaz under pressure..again to ensure that Nawaz does not encroach on what has traditionally been the Army's turf.

I think I should clarify my comment. I didn't mean that loss of foreign policy would make him a lame duck, I meant both the loss of foreign policy, and continued efforts to block every path NS would take, thus making him a lame duck.

I have no reason to believe that the PA will succeed, even if they try and do as you say. Their (alleged) efforts with PTI and PAT have seemingly failed, and NS has come out politically stronger than before, there is just no reason to suggest that NS will lose control over anything.

90% of allegations of military involvement in this current unrest is nothing more than rumor, and the 10% that aren't rumors, well they have yet to show any real results.

 

[VCheng]

90% of allegations of military involvement in this current unrest is nothing more than rumor, and the 10% that aren't rumors, well they have yet to show any real results.

What would it take to convince you that the Army's involvement is 100% certain?

 

[Marshmallow]

What would it take to convince you that the Army's involvement in 100% certain?

If they were really involved then you wouldnt have seen SS and Interior Minister visiting COAS every other day and the matter would have been resolved by their intervention long ago...

We shouldnt put all blames on Army when the current ruling Gov has completely been failed to handle the issue due to their own incompetency....

 

[That Guy]

What would it take to convince you that the Army's involvement is 100% certain?

Evidence/

 

[VCheng]

Evidence/

The evidence is all over, if only one would look.

 

[That Guy]

The evidence is all over, if only one would look.

I've looked all over, none has been presented. I've only been given vague rumors, and nothing more.

 

[VCheng]

I've looked all over, none has been presented. I've only been given vague rumors, and nothing more.

No problem, please continue with your choice to ignore the evidence, that is okay too.

 

[Rain Forest]

Pakistan full of traitors now Sana ullah is bringing his terrorist on the streets.

 

[That Guy]

No problem, please continue with your choice to ignore the evidence, that is okay too.

What evidence? Just because you say there is evidence, doesn't mean you actually have it. Show me the evidence that isn't considered a vague rumor.

 

[VCheng]

What evidence? Just because you say there is evidence, doesn't mean you actually have it. Show me the evidence that isn't considered a vague rumor.

It is okay, I can accept your refusal to see the true picture. It does not matter to me, because reality makes itself felt very nicely, no matter if someone believes it or not. No problem!

 

[That Guy]

It is okay, I can accept your refusal to see the true picture. It does not matter to me, because reality makes itself felt very nicely, no matter if someone believes it or not. No problem!

So, in other words, you have no evidence, so you're going to resort to lying through your teeth.

Sure, no problem, I don't mind you not having evidence. I have asked everyone who makes these claims for proof, but no one has brought it so far, other than an article that runs on nothing more than vague rumors.

 

[VCheng]

So, in other words, you have no evidence, so you're going to resort to lying through your teeth.

Sure, no problem, I don't mind you not having evidence. I have asked everyone who makes these claims for proof, but no one has brought it so far, other than an article that runs on nothing more than vague rumors.

Where have I lied? The real tactic is to keep only people within Pakistan seeing through the appropriate green goggles, but the whole world can see clearly what is going on. You may not want to see it, but the truth will come out. I have no problem waiting.

 

[That Guy]

Where have I lied? The real tactic is to keep only people within Pakistan seeing through the appropriate green goggles, but the whole world can see clearly what is going on. You may not want to see it, but the truth will come out. I have no problem waiting.

I don't live in Pakistan.

You said there was evidence, but you haven't not presented any. I can wait as well.

 

[VCheng]

I don't live in Pakistan.

You said there was evidence, but you haven't not presented any. I can wait as well.

Let us see how the present imbroglio pans out. It won't take much longer now.

Perhaps, but until we get some sort of undeniable evidence, I have no reason to believe that the military is involved in anything more than in a mediating position.

By what legal authority is the Army "mediating" in politics, Sir?