natural gas rich Qatar invests 15 billion USD to Turkey to help Turkey

[Saddam Hussein]

Well at least Qatar don't invest ther money in some western countries wher the money turns in bombs. The same bomb fall on Arab people, that rival thing is a cancer. Money can buy that rival, as you can read they are acceptable as a Arab. Only mistake they have spend it on Turks.

Qatar hosts the largest US military base in the Arab world for your information, that itself is an investment depending on how you look at it.. an investment that enables the output of bombs, the same bomb fall on Arab people, as you say.

Al Udeid air base, the only regional air base where America's heaviest bombers B-52's and B-1's take off from.

 

[-SINAN-]

Gulfies upset again. Because there is still some country that can act against their masters..... well...let's not say Gulfies anymore because of Qatar....Let's say "honorless gulfies".

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Qatar hosts the largest US military base in the Arab world for your information, that itself is an investment depending on how you look at it.. an investment that enables the output of bombs, the same bomb fall on Arab people, as you say.

Al Udeid air base, the only regional air base where America's heaviest bombers B-52's and B-1's take off from.

Qatar is the country that invests the most in the West while KSA's, UAE's largest trade partner is China and most of our investments are invested in Asia, Arab world, Africa etc. Investments in the West are confined to USA and UK with France a distant third in Europe.

But Qatar who bought half of London and Paris, host the largest US base in the region, were on the same page as the West on the MB project (during Obama in particular), who had/have the closest ties with Israel of all Arab countries not named Jordan or Egypt, are suddenly the "anti-Western" bastion just like they are the "Islamic bastion" along with Turkey of all countries.

If Qatar was not pro-Erdogan, those Turks would be calling them the biggest US puppets in the region while being the biggest Western lapdog in the Muslim world since WW2 (when they became a NATO member state). FACT.

Hypocrites.

I am ashamed that incompetent Arab regimes are helping a regime that is anti-Arab, that conspires against Arab states and whose people by large hate Arabs as seen on PDF. **** their fake "brotherhood" nonsense. Talking about imaginary treason 100 years ago when they stole the Caliphate from Arabs who ruled it for 1000 years in 1517, yet not a single word about that. Zero progress in the Arab world under their rule too. Hypocrites, as their entire Ottoman culture was heavily influenced by Arabs and Arab culture on every front. Titles (Caliphate and Sultan), alphabet, language (Ottoman Arabic was more Arabic than Turkish), most of the "Ottoman people" were Arabs, lands etc. Countless of Arab "Ottoman" soldiers gave their lives for this fake sultanate (whose sultans never visited Makkah or Madinah even once) until WW1. Zero thanks to this day. **** that shit.

Now ARABS (Qatar) are saving them as the only country on the planet and those shameless people are still cursing Arabs.

Gulfies upset again. Because there is still some country that can act against their masters..... well...let's not say Gulfies anymore because of Qatar....Let's say "honorless gulfies".

Yes, while the Anatolies are happy about the Qatari "Gulfies" while cursing other Arabs but when Arabs invest in their economy, they become Halal and blindly support the retarded MB project led by Erdogan who normal sane Turks should be against the foremost before anyone else.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

For all the haters, Muslim Ummah is alive and kicking.

The only king that was a bit anti zionism was king faisal whom became assassinated by Saudi regime.

Rahmat Allah alayh. I miss this true leader of Muslims.

 

[-SINAN-]

Qatar is the country that invests the most in the West while KSA's, UAE's largest trade partner is China and most of our investments are invested in Asia, Arab world, Africa etc. Investments in the West are confined to USA and UK with France a distant third in Europe.

But Qatar who bought half of London and Paris, host the largest US base in the region, were on the same page as the West on the MB project (during Obama in particular), who had/have the closest ties with Israel of all Arab countries not named Jordan or Egypt, are suddenly the "anti-Western" bastion just like they are the "Islamic bastion" along with Turkey of all countries.

If Qatar was not pro-Erdogan, those Turks would be calling them the biggest US puppets in the region while being the biggest Western lapdog in the Muslim world since WW2 (when they became a NATO member state). FACT.

Hypocrites.

I am ashamed that incompetent Arab regimes are helping a regime that is anti-Arab, that conspires against Arab states and whose people by large hate Arabs as seen on PDF. **** their fake "brotherhood" nonsense. Talking about imaginary treason 100 years ago when they stole the Caliphate from Arabs who ruled it for 1000 in 1517, yet not a single word about that. Hypocrites, as their entire Ottoman culture was heavily influenced by Arabs and Arab culture on every front. Titles (Caliphate and Sultan), alphabet, language (Ottoman Arabic was more Arabic than Turkish), most of the "Ottoman people" were Arabs, lands etc. Countless of Arab "Ottoman" soldiers gave their lives for this fake sultanate (whose sultans never visited Makkah or Madinah even once) until WW1. Zero thanks to this day. **** that shit.



Yes, while the Anatolies are happy about the Qatari "Gulfies" while cursing other Arabs but when Arabs invest in their economy, they become Halal and blindly support the retarded MB project led by Erdogan who normal sane Turks should be against the foremost before anyone else.

I didn't said Arabs....Arabs are decent people not like Honorless Gulfies.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I didn't said Arabs....Arabs are decent people not like Honorless Gulfies.

Qataris are not "imaginary" Gulfies now? Your imaginary Gulfies are the backbone of Arabs on every front. Historically as today. Read post 34. What do you have to say other than troll one-liners? Can you defend your peoples (by large) hypocrisy here?

The braindead Qatari brothers (if they are reading, doubt that a single one is) should read this thread and ask themselves if following their regime blindly will do them any good. Ask themselves if that money could not have been invested on actual brothers and not foreigners who hate them by large and Arabs and whose regime (Erdogan) conspires against Arabs.

Shame. What is needed next is for KSA to bankroll the Mullah terrorists in Iran. What a joke this is.

 

[-SINAN-]

Qataris are not "imaginary" Gulfies now? Your imaginary Gulfies are the backbone of Arabs on every front. Historically as today. Read post 34. What do you have to say other than troll one-liners? Can you defend your peoples (by large) hypocrisy here?

The braindead Qatari brothers (if they are reading, doubt that a single one is) should read this thread and ask themselves if following their regime blindly will do them any good. Ask themselves if that money could not have been invested to actual brothers and not foreigners who hate them by large.

Shame. What is needed next is for KSA to bankroll the Mullah terrorists in Iran. What a joke this is.

Yeah, yeah...if they should not side with you, you should bomb your brothers like you did in Yemen....

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Once again, Arabs come to rescue another failed Muslim state.

Turkey's economy is a bubble and even if Qatar pours $ 100 bn that won't convince foreign investors to risk any dime on a plummeted currency and a country that is going to be sanctioned more form the US

3+ million Syrians in Turkey would not agree with you.

The Turk economy like others with strong and weak points is not perfect, but made a bold difference between oil-milked ones in every field that modern world measures. That is also the reason why Syrians along with others flock into Turkey.

The Turks exist and survive for millenniums, nothing changes today.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Yeah, yeah...if they should not side with you, you should bomb your brothers like you did in Yemen....

Yes, like you bomb your Kurdish brothers (PKK, YPG etc.) in Turkey, Syria and Iraq right? Houthi terrorists cultists that were created in 1994 and who have waged several wars against the Yemeni state and who hijacked/made a coup in Yemen in September 2014, are now "brothers".

Why is your Gulen (former mentor of Erdogan) not your brother then and Gulenists? You should have supported the coup 2 years ago.

Shameful action by the Qatari regime. Giving money to a hostile regime while that money could have helped millions of Arabs. Thinking that Erdogan would ever save them or help them. Just like he "helped" Syria, Iraq and Egypt.

Would Turks be buying Riyals if we were sanctioned by the West? Where were those people when Iraq was sanctioned? When numerous other Arab countries where? Did they help us? Of course not.

Shameful.

Anyway this suicidal policy and rule of the Al-Thani regime (current 2 leaders) in Qatar will not last for too long. Neither will Erdogan's rule.

When Qatar reaps the fruits of this investment, they will realize what Arabs were telling them by their own. For now let them buy up investments like the Chinese friends began recently.

Arabs "Nowadays" have the Tendency to "Not" surpass themselves if the Rival is someone out of the "Block/Religion/Culture"... aka the West/East...
But when The rival is someone from the "inside culture", They've got wings growing like crazy...

Therefore as long as the "Inside Culture" Rival is still alive... Then it's all good for me...
Everytime I remember those lost decades...I get sick... At least Now it's time to move some A$$...

I want the Region too Transcend their Forefathers Mistakes and Stupidity and if it's the only way to do so...
Then I'm all in for a...

Long Live Turkey... Long Live Arabs... and Even (Against my Heart concerning the Mullahs) A long Live Iran...
And Congrats to the Winner...

Let us discuss historical and current-day realities and facts rather than playing the "Ummah" and "Islam" card, neither which would have existed without Arabs to tell you the truth.

Have a tendency? Is that why the Arab world is the cradle of civilization and dominated world science, technology and almost everything else for millennia upon millennia. Is that why Arab rule during the Islamic era was leading on this fronts as well? Who helped Europe escape the Dark Ages and kickstart the Renaissance if not the works of Arab scientists and knowledge translated by Arabs?

Which non-European people ruled most of Europe the longest and most European territory if not Arabs? Which people raided them from ICELAND in the freaking North to Sicily in the south if not Arabs as a retaliation?

Which people fought most wars against them from the Crusades to today, if not Arabs? Who has killed the most US and Israeli soldiers if not Arabs by far? Did you know that the imaginary "undefeated" Afghans (lol) have killed less US soldiers in 17 years in mostly mountainous territory than a few Iraqi Sunni Arabs did in the "Sunni Triangle of Death" in Central Iraq? Yet people here who have not lifted a finger against Westerners in 100 years are talking about "Western puppet" crap while being the biggest lapdogs. Is that not ironical?

Who, if not fellow Muslims, helped open the gates for the Mongol savages who destroyed the Islamic world's foremost capital and the largest city in the world (back then) and most advanced, Baghdad, if not fellow Muslims? Who later stole the Caliphate and neglected the Islamic heartlands (Arab world) instead to obsess about tiny and irrelevant Balkans? Which progress occurred during that era?

Let me ask you a question here. As Arabs we do not lack anything. Land, population, resources, access to sea (every Arab country has it), strategic location, youth, history, potential etc.

Do we claim territory in non-Arab areas other than the special case of Israel? Are we obsessed about meddling in regional countries? Are we daydreaming about the rebirth of the largest empires seen in this region to date (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Fatimid etc.)?

Are we aligning with fellow Muslims to burn countries that have never done us any harm or very little?

Don't mention MULLAH Iran (under the Shah no such thing happened), who are the aggressors here and I am sure that you agree with this as I know that you are critical of them (rightly so) as most Arabs are.

Yes, let the region burn each other down. That is a good idea. Arabs should not only solve every single problem in the Muslim world (everything is blamed on us, LOL) from Philippines to Nigeria, but we should fund every single Muslim country, host millions of their people while getting almost nothing in return while pretending that those who hate us are actually our imaginary "brothers". Sounds as a brilliant idea. Meanwhile Arab states are burning (3-4) and where are our "imaginary" brothers? They are fueling the fire. It's time for the Arab people to speak the truth openly as this might make some of the incompetent regimes in power wake up from their fantasy sleep.

Everyone is all about what they can gain from Arabs. How many braindead Arabs they can convert/get onboard with to their version/Islamic ideology. Whether it is the Mullah lot or the MB project. Creating blind loyal dogs that if needed will burn their countries to serve their masters abroad. Are we supposed to hail this? Like the only people on the planet?

Please reply here @HannibalBarca and tell me where I am wrong. As I said I don't care about the opinions of foreigners when it comes to Arab matters. Let them bark on PDF. Irrelevant. I just want to understand your logic here.

 

[xenon54 out]

Shameful action by the Qatari regime. Giving money to a hostile regime while that money could have helped millions of Arabs. Thinking that Erdogan would ever save them or help them. Just like he "helped" Syria, Iraq and Egypt.

Thats what happens when you corner Qatar and even go as far as amputating them from mainland.
You were the one who wished Qatar to be annexes by KSA, now you wonder when they turn against you.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Thats what happens when you corner Qatar and even go as far as amputating them from mainland.
You were the one who wished Qatar to be annexes by KSA, now you wonder when they turn against you.

You have no clue about internal Arab politics. Try to guess why KSA (and most of the Arab world) turned against the QATARI REGIME? Did I not already state the reason for that? Could it have something to do with their backstabbing, their terrorist channel (Al-Jazeera in Arabic), them hosting numerous wanted terrorists from Mauritania in the West to Yemen in the East, them working against Arab interests with hostile regimes etc.

You think that KSA, a country that could have incorporated Qatar ages ago, if the US gave the green light, just decided, out of nowhere, to get tough on Qatar and expose their regime's dirty politics?

Of course I wish them to be annexed. You know why? Because it's not a real country. It should belong to the Eastern Province of KSA (Eastern Arabia), an ancient historical region, that Qatar was a part of for millennia. The people are the same as people in the Eastern Province. In fact 99% of all the locals in Qatar are fairly recent arrivals from KSA, including the ruling Al-Thani family.

Most sane Arabs in the region want to see stronger regional Arab blocks in order for there not to be 20+ more Arab countries so it will be harder to be on one page as throughout most of history prior to the modern era. Qatar serves no other purpose currently other than hosting the largest US base in the region, having a filthy rich population (350.000 natives enjoying the second or third largest gas reserves in the world), and a regime that conspires against the immediate neighborhood and several Arab countries. Working hand in hand with the Erdogan regime which is poison for Arab countries, as seen in Egypt and Syria and to a smaller extend Iraq (Barzanistan)-

Of course you do not care about this, as you are not an Arab. The well-being of Arab countries and the Arab world, you could not care less about. You only care about what benefits Turkey and when your valuta and economy is hard hit and you can see that the Qatari regime is ready to help you (even though you are against Erdogan) you will of course support it. That is normal. But don't pretend that you are some kind of neutral or an expert in GCC politics or what this Arab-Qatari feud is all about which has been going on since 2011 (when the "Arab Spring") began.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Yes, like you bomb your Kurdish brothers (PKK, YPG etc.) in Turkey, Syria and Iraq right? Houthi terrorists cultists that were created in 1994 and who have waged several wars against the Yemeni state and who hijacked/made a coup in Yemen in September 2014, are now "brothers".

Why is your Gulen (former mentor of Erdogan) not your brother then and Gulenists? You should have supported the coup 2 years ago.

Shameful action by the Qatari regime. Giving money to a hostile regime while that money could have helped millions of Arabs. Thinking that Erdogan would ever save them or help them. Just like he "helped" Syria, Iraq and Egypt.

Would Turks be buying Riyals if we were sanctioned by the West? Where were those people when Iraq was sanctioned? When numerous other Arab countries where? Did they help us? Of course not.

Shameful.

Anyway this suicidal policy and rule of the Al-Thani regime (current 2 leaders) in Qatar will not last for too long. Neither will Erdogan's rule.

When Qatar reaps the fruits of this investment, they will realize what Arabs were telling them by their own. For now let them buy up investments like the Chinese friends began recently.



Let us discuss historical and current-day realities and facts rather than playing the "Ummah" and "Islam" card, neither which would have existed without Arabs to tell you the truth.

Have a tendency? Is that why the Arab world is the cradle of civilization and dominated world science, technology and almost everything else for millennia upon millennia. Is that why Arab rule during the Islamic era was leading on this fronts as well? Who helped Europe escape the Dark Ages and kickstart the Renaissance if not the works of Arab scientists and knowledge translated by Arabs?

Which non-European people ruled most of Europe the longest and most European territory if not Arabs? Which people raided them from ICELAND in the freaking North to Sicily in the south if not Arabs as a retaliation?

Which people fought most wars against them from the Crusades to today, if not Arabs? Who has killed the most US and Israeli soldiers if not Arabs by far? Did you know that the imaginary "undefeated" Afghans (lol) have killed less US soldiers in 17 years in mostly mountainous territory than a few Iraqi Sunni Arabs did in the "Sunni Triangle of Death" in Central Iraq? Yet people here who have not lifted a finger against Westerners in 100 years are talking about "Western puppet" crap while being the biggest lapdogs. Is that not ironical?

Who, if not fellow Muslims, helped open the gates for the Mongol savages who destroyed the Islamic world's foremost capital and the largest city in the world (back then) and most advanced, Baghdad, if not fellow Muslims? Who later stole the Caliphate and neglected the Islamic heartlands (Arab world) instead to obsess about tiny and irrelevant Balkans? Which progress occurred during that era?

Let me ask you a question here. As Arabs we do not lack anything. Land, population, resources, access to sea (every Arab country has it), strategic location, youth, history, potential etc.

Do we claim territory in non-Arab areas other than the special case of Israel? Are we obsessed about meddling in regional countries? Are we daydreaming about the rebirth of the largest empires seen in this region to date (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Fatimid etc.)?

Are we aligning with fellow Muslims to burn countries that have never done us any harm or very little?

Don't mention MULLAH Iran (under the Shah no such thing happened), who are the aggressors here and I am sure that you agree with this as I know that you are critical of them (rightly so) as most Arabs are.

Yes, let the region burn each other down. That is a good idea. Arabs should not only solve every single problem in the Muslim world (everything is blamed on us, LOL) from Philippines to Nigeria, but we should fund every single Muslim country, host millions of their people while getting almost nothing in return while pretending that those who hate us are actually our imaginary "brothers". Sounds as a brilliant idea. Meanwhile Arab states are burning (3-4) and where are our "imaginary" brothers? They are fueling the fire. It's time for the Arab people to speak the truth openly as this might make some of the incompetent regimes in power wake up from their fantasy sleep.

Everyone is all about what they can gain from Arabs. How many braindead Arabs they can convert/get onboard with to their version/Islamic ideology. Whether it is the Mullah lot or the MB project. Creating blind loyal dogs that if needed will burn their countries to serve their masters abroad. Are we supposed to hail this? Like the only people on the planet?

Please reply here @HannibalBarca and tell me where I am wrong. As I said I don't care about the opinions of foreigners when it comes to Arab matters. Let them bark on PDF. Irrelevant. I just want to understand your logic here.

You kept out the most important part of my view "Nowadays"... Therefore History has no part in the Analysis... and I'm pretty sure if our Forefathers wake up now and Saw us..;They will be first to cry or Even push them to Butcher us for humiliating their legacy...

I regret the Death Of Civilians/Innocent Whatever it's in Yemen or Syria or Egypt or Libya or anywhere on this GLobe... Regional powers will fight against each others via proxy or not and the rEsult will be the same...
'I can't do anything about it"

As for the Burn statement... YOu don't need MB ideology or Zionist or any kind of Ideology for the Region to burn... The Region was born on Blood and will fall at the End of Time with Blood...

I Believe "Nowadays" That Arabs or any Entity Near that region, will need "Rivals" who are close to them, to Transcend their potential...Without Local rivalry... They will achieve nothing, They need another "Muslim Rival" to advance... Only Muslim... Nothing else...

Therefore on that Observation and the Few conditions that I have no power upon, I will cheer any "Local Power" to push their boundaries, for the Greater Good of the Region...
So, I believe a Strong Turkey, will push Others to be stronger/Better and Vice Versa... More Arabs will be Stronger, More Turkey will seek better and so on...

As for Death in the Region, it's mostly done by retards who can't say stop to themselves... And ALLAh will be their judge... My view is only based on "my" Societal observation...

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Therefore on that Observation and the Few conditions that I have no power upon, I will cheer any "Local Power" to push their boundaries, for the Greater Good of the Region...
So, I believe a Strong Turkey, will push Others to be stronger/Better and Vice Versa... More Arabs will be Stronger, More Turkey will seek better and so on...

Mullahistan and Israel have not only refuted the claim also exposed the agenda for decades, but still some left carryig the torch, interesting.

Arabs will never and ever do anything on their own till the oil depletes.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Mullahistan and Israel have not only refuted the claim also exposed the agenda for decades, but still some left carryig the torch, interesting.

Arabs will never and ever do anything on their own till the oil depletes.

Only Time will tell... And Mixing "Arabs with those in Power" is a grave mistake...

 

[Saif al-Arab]

You kept out the most important part of my view "Nowadays"...

I regret the Death Of Civilians/Innocent Whatever it's in Yemen or Syria or Egypt or Libya or anywhere on this GLobe... Regional powers will fight against each others via proxy or not and the rEsult will be the same...
'I can't do anything about it"

As for the Burn statement... YOu don't need MB ideology or Zionist or any kind of Ideology for the Region to burn... The Region was burn on Blood and will fall at the End of Time with Blood...

I Believe "Nowadays" That Arabs or any Entity Near that region, will need "Rivals" who are close to them, to Transcend their potential...Without Local rivalry... They will achieve nothing, They need another "Muslim Rival" to advance... Only Muslim... Nothing else...

Therefore on that Observation and the Few conditions that I have no power upon, I will cheer any "Local Power" to push their boundaries, for the Greater Good of the Region...
So, I believe a Strong Turkey, will push Others to be stronger/Better and Vice Versa... More Arabs will be Stronger, More Turkey will seek better and so on...

Fair enough. However what is nowadays? 7 years ago Iraqis were killing more US/Western soldiers than anywhere else on earth. 40 years ago Arabs were destroying Western economies overnight during the oil embargo. To date only Arabs have fought against Israel. Yet all "keyboard Muslims" here are barking about Israel left and right. Where is their contribution? Nowhere to be seen.

That's not truth. There was much less "burning" in the past. In fact for large parts of history (in fact most of recorded history) the Arab world was much more peaceful than Europe next door and other regions of the world. For instance there have never been a single genocide in our part of the world aside from the savage Mongols who were eventually defeated and where never seen again. Today they live in a barren land the size of almost KSA but with 3 million people. Sandwiched between Russia and China. Totally irrelevant.

Maybe, maybe not, but when that rival helps put gasoline to the fire, we are supposed to praise them or what? Why is Qatar helping a foreign regime (that they kicked out 120 years ago after 20 years of rule in Qatar combined in all of history) who has no love lost for Arabs (you know from your time on PDF) and who would never help us similarly? More importantly why not help fellow Arabs? Could they not have helped Yemenis instead? Or maybe Syria and Iraq? Or Libya that they played an important role in to remove Gaddafi?

Well, (looking at history) I cannot object to your logic, but it's not the most practical thing to wish for in this region of all places n the world at this time and age.

Europe don't need that stuff to advance. They had their WW1 and WW2 where 100 million people died. So you are saying that 20+ Arab countries and 500 million Arabs, if regimes are united, are allowed to burn much smaller neighbors such as Iran (once again) and Turkey down? Ok.

Mullahistan and Israel have not only refuted the claim also exposed the agenda for decades, but still some left carryig the torch, interesting.

Arabs will never and ever do anything on their own till the oil depletes.

The ancestors of modern-day Arabs (Arab world is the cradle of civilization) were building the oldest and first civilizations on the planet and at the forefront on most front for millennia upon millennia, and this even continued during the Islamic era (1000 years of Arab rule of the Caliphate) and oil was nowhere to be seen.

From 300-400 years of no development almost (under a certain Arabized power where most people were fellow Arabs), to countries like KSA reaching the top 15% of most scientifically producing countries (out of 200 countries) and tremendous progress in the Arab world despite all plagues and everyone conspiring to do the opposite, wars, sanctions, Israel dumping down from earth, incompetent regimes etc. I would worry the day Arabs will be free as millennia old history might repeat itself because we have everything to do it again. Landmass, population size, resources, geography, strategic location, potential etc.