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Those muslim left for PAKISTAN. Most punjabi muslims left for pakistan, most others stayed back in india. Phew! That was the partition you wanted, if we wanted to push out all muslims out of india in 1947, why would there be 150 million + muslims in india today? why their numbers and population % be rising? Why hundreds of new mosques / churches being built in india even as we speak??? lies lies lies, thats what you are repeating, and not a word about the state of pakistan.

So what is pakistan today? India hate and China love? Where is pakistan in your 'arguments'? so how many shias have died in the past one year in pakistan - can you give me statistics and prove that more minorities in india died / displaced in the same period?

Either you are really dumb or just in denial.

Go to the previous page and see the article Cheetah786 posted on massacres that took place in India against other religious groups.

The article is from New York Times, he also provided the link.

About Firozpur. Some left to Pakistan but others were killed and raped and today the Muslim population in Firozpur is zero.

From Indian website:

Prior to the Partition of India, Ferozpur had a large Muslim majority. According to the Partition Plan, all Muslim majority regions were to accede to Pakistan and all Hindu and Sikh majority regions to India. However, allegedly pro-Indian Lord Mountbatten changed the original partition map, drawn by Sir Radcliffe, handing over Gurdaspur, Ferozpur,Ambala and Mansa district to India. During the first week of partition massive violence erupted in Ferozpur, resulting in the slaughter of thousands of Muslims by Sikhs and Hindus. After the Partition a lot of movement had occurred from both sides of the Border. Today, Ferozpur has a Sikh and Hindu majority with a virtually non-existent Muslim population, as a result of the wide-scale massacres and immigration. There are a couple of Muslim families resided on the border side of Ferozpur and Pakistan, but have changed there faith to Sikhism and adapted the Sidhu surname.

http://punjabizm.com/viewDistrict.php?distId=6
 
^^ When did this so called "massacre" take place ?
 
Either you are really dumb or just in denial.

Go to the previous page and see the article Cheetah786 posted on massacres that took place in India against other religious groups.

The article is from New York Times, he also provided the link.

I may be really dumb but my chinese lover, i'm not talking abt the supposed 'ethnic cleansing' that took place 62 years ago and claiming that denies minorities religious freedom in india in 2009 :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Those riots are exception, not the rule. The rule would be denying non muslims highest posts in pakistan by law, providing protection under blasphemy laws only to muslims, not allowing ahmadis to preach their religion by law and the latest achievement - Jaziya on non muslims. Well done cave man.
 
4 pages and 48 posts, and still a post on introspection is yet to make its debut.

Bravo
 
Indians have trouble reading I think.

Religious Intolerance
Hindu-Christian violence in India

1996 "Freedom of Religion Bill"
Mangalprabhat Lodha, a member of the Bharatiya Janatha party, introduced a "freedom of religion" bill in 1996-DEC to the Maharashtra State Assembly. The bill appears to be poorly named, because its prime aim is to prevent religious conversions and severely limit people's freedom to proselytize in that state.

Lodha claimed that Christian missionaries have set as their goal the conversion of 100,000 Hindus to Christianity. The bill, if made into law, is clearly unconstitutional. The Indian constitution guarantees all of its citizens the right to select and change their own religion, and the right to communicate their religious beliefs to others.

Maharashtra state has a population of about 80 million and includes the city of Bombay.
Examples of Hindu violence towards Christians:
Some Hindus have accused Christian missionaries of offering money and goods to Tallit (a.k.a. untouchables) and other lower caste Indians as an inducement to convert to Christianity. Although the caste system has been officially outlawed for many years, it is still followed by many citizens -- particularly in rural areas. There are accusations that some low caste Indians have converted to Buddhism or Christianity in order to escape from the caste system. This is viewed as a destabilizing force by many Hindus.

Christians experienced increased oppression after the nationalistic Hindu Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)came to power federally in 1998. Violence continues, even after the BJP was replaced by the Congress Party in 2004. Some examples of inter-faith violence:

1999: Graham Staines, an Australian Christian missionary had worked for 30 years with leprosy patients in Orissa state for three decades. In 1999, he and his two young sons -- Philip, 10, and Timothy, 6, were trapped inside a car by Hindu fundamentalist militants who set fire to his vehicle. All three were burned to death. In 2003, 13 men were convicted of mass murder. Dara Singh was sentenced to hang; his 12 accomplices, were sentenced to life in prison. 1
2000: During the first half of the year, there were 35 violent incidents in which Christians were victimized. These include bombings, church arson, beating deaths, and assaults. Roman Catholic Archbishop de Lastic stated: "There is a definite strategy and plan at the national level -- these forces at work want to intimidate Christians."
Some Protestant and Catholic leaders blamed the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). This is a Hindu spiritual group, from which the BJP political party grew. The All India Christian Council wrote that Christians are "sick of the statements and are not fooled by the utterances of the central government." 2 Herod Malik, spokesperson for the United Forum for Catholics and Protestants said: "We are scared. We have to go to international organizations because we have no faith in the Indian government." 3

Federal government leaders denied that the RSS is responsible. They accused Pakistani security forces. 1

2007: During the Christmas holiday period, about 10 people died, 90 churches were burned and 600 homes were destroyed in Orissa state. 4
2008: Clashes continue in Orissa state. The Baptist World Alliance claimed in August that the death toll had reached at least 25. They reported that more than 600 churches had been demolished and that 4,000 Christians had been forced to flee from their villages.

The Associated Baptist Press reported in 2008-AUG-27:
"A nun died and a pastor was hurt when fire swept an orphanage in the Bargarh District. Apparently none of the 21 children housed there died."

"In an Aug. 26 e-mail to the BWA, Swarupananda Patra, General Secretary of the All Orissa Baptist Churches Federation, said, 'All Christian villages [are] empty in Kandhamal as Christians, old and young, sick and pregnant mothers [are] hiding in forests exposed to the non-stop monsoon rains without food. Kandhamal is the hardest hit, with at least eight Christians killed and almost all Christian homes demolished,' he reported. 'I appeal to the governing authorities in India to intervene to save the lives of the many who are being victimized in the current crisis,' BWA General Secretary Neville Callam said in a press release. 'Respect for the principle of religious liberty and the sacredness of human life requires nothing less'." 5

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References used:
The following information sources were used to prepare and update the above essay. The hyperlinks are not necessarily still active today.

"Hindu given death for killing missionary," The New York Times, 2003-SEP-23, at: The New York Times - Breaking News, World News & Multimedia
Religion Today news summary, 2000-JUN-13
Religion Today news summary, 2000-JUN-14
Robert Marus, "BWA officials condemn violence against Christians in Indian state," Associated Baptist Press, 2008-JAN-04, at: Associated Baptist Press - Home
"Reports: Several dead in India after Hindu-Christian clashes," Associated Baptist Press, 2008-AUG-27, at: Associated Baptist Press - Home



Religious Intolerance
Muslim-Hindu religious intolerance in India

Examples of Hindu-Muslim violence:
1992: Some Hindus burned down a 16th century mosque in the northern Indian town of Ayodhya. Their plan was to build a Hindu temple on the site, which is sacred to followers of both religions. This action has resulted in the occasional outburst of rioting:

1993: Hindu-Muslim riots in Mumbai (formerly Bombay) caused the deaths of 800 people.

2002-FEB-26: 58 people died during a fire on board a train in the western state of Gujarat. Most of the victims were Hindu pilgrims. Initially, Muslims were blamed for attacking the train and setting it on fire. However, subsequent evidence has shown that the fire was the result of an accident.

Belief that Muslims were responsible for the carnage motivated some Hindus to retaliate. Within five days, 499 people had been killed -- mostly Muslims. Many were burned to death. According to the New York Times, during the week of 2002-APR-22:


"... more than 40 people have perished in the continuing violence, in the western state of Gujarat. The official death toll in the last two months has risen to 900. More than 100,000 people, mostly Muslims, are estimated to have fled to relief camps. On Tuesday, [2002-APR-30] Parliament will debate whether the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party -- which has led a national coalition government for most of the last four years and controls the state of Gujarat, its last major state stronghold -- has been complicit in the carnage. ..."

"Indian officials were particularly stung by the leak of a confidential assessment by British diplomats who estimated the death toll at 2,000, more than twice the official tally, and said the anti-Muslim violence had been planned and carried out with the state government's support."


Many Muslim victims have testified:
"that the mobs were led by people from the Bharatiya Janata Party and other organizations in its Hindu nationalist family, particularly the World Hindu Congress and its youth wing, the Bajrang Dal."1
2002-SEP-24: Radical fundamentalist Muslim extremists attacked the Swaminarayan temple. This Hindu temple is located on a 23 acre complex in Gandhinagar, the state capital of the Indian state of Gujarat. This temple is particularly popular to Hindus, Muslims, Jews and Christians alike, because it houses scriptures of all of the major world religions in its Hall of Harmony. It is a well-known cultural center visited by over two million people each year. By selecting this temple for attack, among all of the Hindu temples in India, the radical Muslim terrorists might have been aiming a blow against the concept of religious tolerance, rather than simply hoping to kill Hindus at prayer. Two extremists invaded the temple and murdered people indiscriminately. The total death toll was about 30, including the two terrorists, one Indian commando who died in the counterattack, and four chldren. Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, his deputy Lal Krishnan Advani and opposition leader Sonia Gandhi quickly visited the temple together stressing the need for religious harmony and the avoidance of revenge attacks against Indian Muslims. The Hindu fundamentalist World Hindu Council has called for a state-wide strike. 2

References:
"Discord Over Killing of India Muslims Deepens," New York Times, 2002-APR-29 at: The New York Times - Breaking News, World News & Multimedia
Sanjeev Srivastava, "Eyewitness: Gujarat's nightmare," 2002-SEP-26, at: BBC NEWS | News Front Page
 
Somehow, the moment i read the first topic, i knew this would turn in to Bash-India thread. Tell me Pakistani members, does your patriotism depend on anti-India rhetoric? Is that the basis of your identity? If it is indeed the case, it reflects poorly on your nation.
 
This is plain funny !!!!!!!!!!!!
americans called pakistani - worst religious tolerants and omar is getting on india - dude - can you talk look in to situation????????????
India is not saying this - america is .
hypothetically speaking - india do agree we have some communal problem ????????
then what ???? American think we don't have it they think pakistan have the problem so go and hit the head in to them why you hitting the wrong wall ???????????????
 
Somehow, the moment i read the first topic, i knew this would turn in to Bash-India thread. Tell me Pakistani members, does your patriotism depend on anti-India rhetoric? Is that the basis of your identity? If it is indeed the case, it reflects poorly on your nation.

Take a look at the posts from your fellow countrymen especially fateh71.

Does your patriotism depend on anti-Pakistan rhetoric?
 
Take a look at the posts from your fellow countrymen especially fateh71.

Does your patriotism depend on anti-Pakistan rhetoric?

LIAR!


This is the FIRST post on this thread. I only replied to the india bashing. Have SOME honesty, its allowed as per your culture i presume!

Did U.S. forget the gang rape of nuns, burning of churches, and massacre of Christians in India just a few months ago?
 
Well they're absolutely right as recently militants asked Sikhs to pay money but even Muslims are not tolerated by these Militants.They have only killed Muslims in Pakistan so far.GOP must ensure that minorities are safe.
 
i don,t care what some artile says, but this article is BS, india is 10 times worse then pakistan in religious tolerance.
 
^ Are you dumb? Just google "gujrat 2002" "babri masjid" "1984 sikhs" "orissa christians" and just read those articles. India is the least tolerant country towards other religions.

It doesn't matter how much you kiss U.S.' a$$ you cant fool the world.

India is really the world's largest hypocricy.

Well i dont know why people are overlooking the word INSTITUIONAL. I wont say indians have 100% record on religious tolerance. But our institution is such that it is against any such intolerance towards minority and its having a constitution giving more importance to the minority backward classes and it cannot interpreted by any religious masses in any way they want and it only have one meaning equality for all and freedom for all. So institutionaly the country is secular and have a majority population who are tolerant to the other religions.

But problems in pakistan is different.. you have a constitution which is biased to minorities and you have blasphmy laws which are grossly misused, You have seen dwindling no's of minorities in your country... and have a government who wouldnt mind introducing sharia in certain parts of its country which ofcourse can be intrepreted in any way a mulah wants to. You have seen hindus/sikhs getting displaced and still a government or a country doing nothing about it.

So its more or less the attitude of a nation towards minority that matters. But people are so focused in numbers they fail to get the real big picture the real institutional probelm. In other words, you cant judge india and pakistan in the same yardstick even though i believe many pakistanis would like to.
 
Every country has problems with religious tolerance, but considering that India contains a fifth of humanity and all denominations of all religions (almost), its record in this has been quite decent.
 
Every country has problems with religious tolerance, but considering that India contains a fifth of humanity and all denominations of all religions (almost), its record in this has been quite decent.

it also contains the highest number of minorities slaughtered
 
Well no surprises in the list, even though some here think India is missing. Why you guys love India so much, hey you got China there to keep you happy :)

Ok seriously, India's record is not model, but India's problems are not institutional, also cases like the 'christian massacre' are only exceptions. the so called massacre itself is some 60 ppl dead over many weeks in remote jungles, and that number includes Hindus too. Given India's size and poverty, the record is not as bad as some would like to portray here. Fact is thousands of Christian organisations continue to freely work in India, nobody has left.

One great news for Bangladesh, I think they have been dropped from the list.Good going Bongs, don't worry if you are called RAW agents by some of your own countrymen (?) :)

Its the other way around, you guys are obsessed with pakistan...
 

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