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Nationalism in India is being anti-Pakistan and anti-China

You can't just discount by saying who he is and who he works for.

You have to address the question he has raised and answer it with logic.

Rolling your eyes and shrugging your shoulders like a teenager does not cut it.

Does his criticism have any merit ? If you disagree with the point he has raised then what is your logical rebuttal ?

His criticism is naive at best and nefarious at worst.

Mr. Patel very conveniently mentions that there is not harm in Mr. Aziz meeting Hurriyat, which is absurd.

Hurriyat leaders are self confessed separatists and their goals are vastly in odds with stated policy of GoI which is Kashmir is an inseparable part of India. Now during 90's when India was its knees financially and politically - certain interests found an opening to prop up Hurriyat and Indian State could not respond due to various pressures exerted on them. Hurriyat thus was falsely legitimized as a representative of Kashmiri people instead of their elective representatives,

No Nation will tolerate Separatist functioning on its turf much less patronize them but our country had to due to exigent circumstances as previously described. Now that the situation is turned around and India is in a much better space economically and voters are turning out in large numbers to vote for non hurriyat leaders in state sanctioned elections - there is no need for GoI to tolerate Hurriyat who themselves have lost their support base. Present Govt has rightly seized upon this and created a new paradigm where GoI stands as the sole representative of all of India instead of separatist elements.

In next 5/6 years if GoI sticks to this policy Pakistan will have no choice but to discard Hurriyat if they want to engage with GoI thus demolishing old precedents and creating new ones.

Mr. Patel realizes all this, even a basic high school student can perceive this let alone a keen analyst of political affairs but due to certain vested anti-national interest he keeps on parroting the words which favor not India but its neighbours.

The conclusion drawn hence by @levina is correct and brilliant in its simplicity and brevity.

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My logic is simple, anyone who sympathizes with hurriyat,which is anti-India and anti democratic, can not be a true Indian and the author is definitely in that list.


Is it true that to be NATIONALISTIC and PATRIOTIC in India , one has to be inherently ANTI-PAKISTAN and ANTI CHINA ?

IS THAT THE LITMUS TEST ?

YES OR NO ?

Why make a demand on people to be Anti-Pakistan or Anti-China to prove their PATRIOTISM.

Why not just ask them to be simply PRO-INDIA , as opposed to being ANTI THIS OR ANTI THAT.
 
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nothing new sir. This precisely is the definition of patriotism in india.
My logic is simple, anyone who sympathizes with hurriyat,which is anti-India and anti democratic, can not be a true Indian and the author is definitely in that list.
Hurriyat must be devastated cuz 'levina' said this.

Interests me how ppl enjoy bloodhsed in kashmir.

@Pakistanisage sir someday i really wish u share ur stance on kashmir issue with us.
 
Even fools can sometimes stumble on TRUTH, SOMETIMES...

He may or may not have credibility in the eyes of some Indians.

But the point is whether his narrative has any validity.

IF NOT , WHY NOT ?
Okay now let me try.
First India is a country of 1.3 billion people which includes Muslims, Christian, Hindu and many more.
If we go with your knowledge then why aren't Christians criticizing America to show their patriotism? because after all David Coleman Headley is still in American jails
Why aren't zoro-astrians criticising Iran?
Also I am unable to understand that why weren't the Muslims silent from 68 years to show their Nationalism?
Where they sleeping?
Once you find out answers of these questions you will get your answers.
 
Is it true that to be NATIONALISTIC and PATRIOTIC in India , one has to be inherently ANTI-PAKISTAN nad ANTI CHINA ?

IS THAT THE LITMUS TEST ?

YES OR NO ?
The criteria is zero tolerance towards anything which is anti-India.
Capisce?

Hurriyat must be devastated cuz 'levina' said this.
Aww.

Interests me how ppl enjoy bloodhsed in kashmir.
Right!
Innocents are being killed by terrorists in the name of religion and they call it jihad. Unfortunate!
 
The criteria is zero tolerance towards anything which is anti-India.
Capisce?


Aww.


Right!
Innocents are being killed by terrorists in the name of religion and they call it jihad. Unfortunate!
Ididnt know indian army and cprf were killing kashmiris and raping them in the name of religion and they called it jihad.
 
Never seen any Chinese hating Indian and expect for minor terretorial dispute we have no animosity towards them instead large no.of Indians admire their economic reforms and infrastructure development.
 
Ididnt know indian army and cprf were killing kashmiris and raping them in the name of religion and they called it jihad.
Indian army took over in 1988.
Where were you when innocent Kashmiri pandits were being massacred in the name of religion???
Kashmir was a peaceful and prosperous state of India till late 1980's when our neighbors decided to start a proxy war.
 
Indian army took over in 1988.
Where were you when innocent Kashmiri pandits were being massacred in the name of religion???
Kashmir was a peaceful and prosperous state of India till late 1980's when our neighbors decided to start a proxy war.
Haha and those from 48 uno resolutions that ask ur army to vacate iok? Lolz ia tookover in 88

Oh and btw pandits wernt massacred . It ws a staged rubbish by indian gov and it was ur Jagmohan the cm of iok who cajoled pandits out of the territory.
Lies sell in india ,so as an indian u must buy these gibberish narratives.
And one day u call kashmit freedom religion driven terrorism next day it becomes pakistan sponsored proxy
 
Haha and those from 48 uno resolutions that ask ur army to vacate iok? Lolz ia tookover in 88

Hard to believe you 're so naïf despite being on this forum for so long. The UN resolution asks Pakistan to vacate kashmir first. India's role is secondary.

Oh and btw pandits wernt massacred . It ws a staged rubbish by indian gov and it was ur Jagmohan the cm of iok who cajoled pandits out of the territory.
Tell that to a kashmiri pandit...
@SarthakGanguly
 
Haha and those from 48 uno resolutions that ask ur army to vacate iok? Lolz ia tookover in 88

Oh and btw pandits wernt massacred . It ws a staged rubbish by indian gov and it was ur Jagmohan the cm of iok who cajoled pandits out of the territory.
Lies sell in india ,so as an indian u must buy these gibberish narratives.
And one day u call kashmit freedom religion driven terrorism next day it becomes pakistan sponsored proxy
It was 1989, not 88.
Jagmohan was the Governor. All Indian states have them. He was not the CM.
Pakistan, as a legitimate terrorist state (wrt India) promoted/promotes terror in India, as it should. We are enemies and your acts are legitimate. I only lament the fact that we have not done enough in return.

Arey janab, ye to Infidel nikla... :mad: Name Jihad...
When you dig deep enough, you get the usual suspects. Almost always. :enjoy:
Search for Aakar Ahmed Patel and your questions will be answered.
 
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