NASR : SHORT RANGE TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPON!

Biplab Bijay · Mar 25, 2015

Dalit said:
It's an abomination that Indians suddenly consider tactical nukes a sin. You need to have a balanced view and discard nuclear weapons in totality if you proclaim to be anti-nuclear. Not pick and choose like most Indians are doing.

Did not get your point. We are out numbered in front of China. we dont have Tactical nuke. But we have nukes. Is not it ?

Dalit · Mar 25, 2015

Biplab Bijay said:
Did not get your point. We are out numbered in front of China. we dont have Tactical nuke. But we have nukes. Is not it ?

So, just because you don't have them, doesn't mean that we cannot have them neither. We have them and I've already stated the reasons. There is no playing level field for Pakistan. Pakistan has to be innovative to survive in a hostile environment. It has done very well by making good use of technology. This discussion isn't leading anywhere.

Biplab Bijay · Mar 25, 2015

Dalit said:
So, just because you don't have them, doesn't mean that we cannot have them neither. We have them and I've already stated the reasons. This discussion isn't leading anywhere.

That means your statement " Not only would you believe in tactical nukes, you would literally worship them if you had a numerical disadvantage like we do. Mark my words." is wrong in the context of India ?

Capt.Popeye · Mar 25, 2015

Dalit said:
Not only would you believe in tactical nukes, you would literally worship them if you had a numerical disadvantage like we do. Mark my words. LMAO I understand why you hate them though.They are a pain in the a$$... Especially when you intend a cold start doctrine. LMAO

Hey Mr. spinach, who cares about strategic or tactical nukes? LMAO Nukes are nukes.

That's good to hear that you are anti-nuclear, Mr. spinach. Good luck convincing the generals...

Oye Dalitmiya; there is nothing to worship in TacNukes; have you now started worshipping "Suicide Jackets"?
Only the Beardos and Weirdos have been indulging that ritual. Now you seem to be joining that band which knows only one tune "Hum doobengay toh tum ko saath lekar doobengay". :lol:

Dude we don't need to indulge in CSD (which has been contrived to create a Howwa; which it has done very well

) rather there are many other "arrows in the quiver".
Most of all TacNukes have only increased the "Management Stresses", but the Mujaheddin in GHQ (as they are prone to be) are gung-ho enough not to even understand that......
Strategic Nukes have always been WMD (Weapons of Mass Destruction) but piddly TacNukes are WSD (Weapons of Self Destruction) which seems to have escaped the Khakis. So let me wish you all the best with those new toys which (like all Nukes) cannot be used..... unless one is looking to commit "Hara-Kiri" but then who knows.... there may be some who see it a divinely ordained duty.

As for me: I don't have to convince any Generals; it is you who have to convince your Generals who blithely consider you to be simply an expendable commodity.

AMCA · Mar 25, 2015

This is nothing but a derivative of the Chinese WS-2.. Here is something more Cool.. India's Pragati rocket System. An export variant of even more powerful Prahaar.

SvenSvensonov · Mar 25, 2015

Gufi said:
Before more people compare this missile and its purpose and why USA and Russia did not use the missiles learn the basic art of geographic locations. The chance of armoured battalions entering America in large numbers is near impossible. Useless comparing different wars and strategies without taking into consideration the different factors involved.

Gufi · Mar 25, 2015

SvenSvensonov said:
Both the US and Soviet Union deployed tactical nuclear weapons in and near Europe with the intention of stopping infantry and armored assaults. These systems where mobile and deploy-able, so I'm not including systems such as Nike Ajax or Hercules.

So the point remains best way to stop advancing tank battalions is this.

NKVD · Mar 25, 2015

RadioactiveFriends said:
Pakistan’s development of tactical weapons — in the form of the Nasr missile, which has a 60-kilometer range --- is only in response to concerns that India’s larger military could still wage a conventional was against the country, thinking Pakistan would not risk retaliation with a bigger nuclear weapon.

Sneaker · Mar 25, 2015

They are completely useless. India has made it clear that I holds right to retaliate with nukes even in case of tactical nukes, even if used inside pak border against our forces. So, if Pak uses tacnucs, it will have to face obliteration by our nukes. This leaves only other option for pak, if it wants to use nukes, it must use strategic nukes to try to take out India so battlefield nukes become useless again...

Bang Galore · Mar 25, 2015

Gufi said:
So the point remains best way to stop advancing tank battalions is this.

A good question to ponder about is what is going to be the response? Unless Pakistani strategists are living in la-la land, they must know that a response will follow. Even if a strategic response is discounted, a predictable response would be a nuclear strike against chosen target(s) of the Pakistani military. I simply fail to see how Pakistan can ever come out on top in any scenario.

Gufi · Mar 25, 2015

Bang Galore said:
A good question to ponder about is what is going to be the response? Unless Pakistani strategists are living in la-la land, they must know that a response will follow. Even if a strategic response is discounted, a predictable response would be a nuclear strike against chosen target(s) of the Pakistani military. I simply fail to see how Pakistan can ever come out on top in any scenario.

tell me the nuclear doctrine of Pakistan? tell me the guidelines on use of nuclear weapons? then when u actually research these things you will find your answer... It is good to answer yourself at times

Bang Galore · Mar 25, 2015

Gufi said:
tell me the nuclear doctrine of Pakistan? tell me the guidelines on use of nuclear weapons? then when u actually research these things you will find your answer... It is good to answer yourself at times

Maybe it is equally good to read up what your enemy's response will be, tactical nukes are battlefield weapons and that means lowering the threshold for use of the nuclear capability. The assumption seems to be made that India will just absorb a nuclear strike on its strike columns & go home, seems not very well thought out to me.

Gufi · Mar 25, 2015

Bang Galore said:
Maybe it is equally good to read up what your enemy's response will be, tactical nukes are battlefield weapons and that means lowering the threshold for use of the nuclear capability. The assumption seems to be made that India will just absorb a nuclear strike on its strike columns & go home, seems not very well thought out to me.

Did you read the doctrine? NO... still an uninformed reply

Capt.Popeye · Mar 25, 2015

Gufi said:
So the point remains best way to stop advancing tank battalions is this.

In the open plains or steppes, not in heavily and densely populated areas where the enemy forces are separated only by a few kilometers.
The guys on either side of the Cold War then discovered that the benefits were few and limited, @SvenSvensonov. There has to be a good reason why the Cold War adversaries gave up those weapons eventually! :azn:

Bang Galore · Mar 25, 2015

Gufi said:
Did you read the doctrine? NO... still an uninformed reply

Been doing this for quite some time here. Much before you came along. If you feel like, go back & read old threads.

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