NASA Artemis 1, USA goes back to the Moon again

[MH.Yang]

So you are saying if it was a hoax the only thing we should see on the moon is the LEM base without the ascent vehicle.

How do you explain the laser retroreflectors setup by the Apollo astronauts that scientists all over the world can use anytime to calculate the distance to the moon. I suppose we had robots on those craft that jumped out and set them up.

How do you explain the goodwill pieces of moonrocks sent to almost every country in the world?

Norway's lunar sample display


How do explain the 800+ pounds of moon rocks scientist from all over the world can examine.

Plus if you don't believe the NASA/Japanese/Russians/Chinese who have photographs you can ask about your own governments' pictures:

Indian satellite confirmed US moon landing: scientist

India's first lunar mission has captured images of the landing site of the Apollo 15 craft, debunking theories that the US mission was a hoax, the country's state-run space agency said Wednesday.

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"Our images also show tracks left behind by the lunar rovers which were used by the astronauts."

53 years later, an Indian probe photographs the Apollo sites on the Moon

Before starting the busiest portion of its particularly dense 2022 calendar, the Indian space agency shot the portrait at two iconic sites of the Apollo

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53 years later, an Indian probe photographs the Apollo sites on the Moon​

The Apollo 12 mission site, with the Lunar Module Intrepid in the center. © ISRO

You can clearly see tracks by the astronauts.

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I can easily explain it. You are just another Asian that refuses to believe Westerners had the ability to do such things over 50 years ago.

The Chinese Academy of Sciences did confirm Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, a total of six spacecraft landed on the moon.

However, the Chinese Academy of Sciences also announced that the lunar soil presented by the USA to various countries was fake.

China has not questioned the American technology and the human miracle created. But we question your scientific ethics.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

However, the Chinese Academy of Sciences also announced that the lunar soil presented by the USA to various countries was fake.

Please show that "announcement" that the NASA goodwill moonrocks were fake as I do not see it.


I do see something about a moonrock in a museum that was found to be a piece of petrified wood but that is not a NASA Goodwill moonrock.

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Apollo 17 lunar sample display - Wikipedia

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"The Apollo 17 lunar sample display consists of a Moon rock fragment from a lava Moon stone identified as lunar basalt 70017, the recipient's flag and two small metal plates attached with descriptive messages. A goodwill gift from the Apollo 17 mission was then given in the form of a wooden commemorative plaque display individually to all fifty states, five U.S. territories, and 135 nations worldwide."

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Lunar basalt 70017 - Wikipedia

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"The Lunar basalt 70017 is a Moon rock gathered in 1972 by astronauts Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt on the Apollo 17 mission near their Apollo Lunar Module from the valley of Taurus-Littrow on the Moon, and then divided into 1.1 gram pieces on Earth."

The Apollo 17 Lunar Sample Information Catalog, 1973, describes it as a "holocrystalline, equigranular basalt containing some poikilitic plagioclase". Its total weight before being broken up was 2957 grams. The sliced off 1.1 gram Moon chip segments from lunar basalt 70017 consists of 30 percent plagioclase, 59 percent pyroxene, 10 percent ilmenite and 1 percent olivine. The Apollo 17 "Lunar basalt 70017" is described by technicians as a coarse-grained high-Ti basalt. It has been described as Moon soil with a crystallization age around 3.7 billion years and an exposure age of about 220 million years. All surfaces of the blocky angular shaped stone are rough and jagged

 

[MH.Yang]

Please show that "announcement" that the NASA goodwill moonrocks were fake as I do not see it.


I do see something about a moonrock in a museum that was found to be a piece of petrified wood but that is not a NASA Goodwill moonrock.

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Apollo 17 lunar sample display - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"The Apollo 17 lunar sample display consists of a Moon rock fragment from a lava Moon stone identified as lunar basalt 70017, the recipient's flag and two small metal plates attached with descriptive messages. A goodwill gift from the Apollo 17 mission was then given in the form of a wooden commemorative plaque display individually to all fifty states, five U.S. territories, and 135 nations worldwide."

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Lunar basalt 70017 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"The Lunar basalt 70017 is a Moon rock gathered in 1972 by astronauts Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt on the Apollo 17 mission near their Apollo Lunar Module from the valley of Taurus-Littrow on the Moon, and then divided into 1.1 gram pieces on Earth."

The Apollo 17 Lunar Sample Information Catalog, 1973, describes it as a "holocrystalline, equigranular basalt containing some poikilitic plagioclase". Its total weight before being broken up was 2957 grams. The sliced off 1.1 gram Moon chip segments from lunar basalt 70017 consists of 30 percent plagioclase, 59 percent pyroxene, 10 percent ilmenite and 1 percent olivine. The Apollo 17 "Lunar basalt 70017" is described by technicians as a coarse-grained high-Ti basalt. It has been described as Moon soil with a crystallization age around 3.7 billion years and an exposure age of about 220 million years. All surfaces of the blocky angular shaped stone are rough and jagged

I didn't say that piece of wood from the museum. We have brought back a lot of lunar soil through chang'e-5. We also have lunar soil donated by Americans. We have also studied the lunar soil of other countries on many occasions.

Of course, the Chinese Academy of Sciences will not directly say that the lunar soil given by Americans to other countries is fake.

They implicitly said that China found that the lunar soil brought back by chang'e-5 was very different from the lunar soil donated by the USA.

Bulk compositions of the Chang’E-5 lunar soil: Insights into chemical homogeneity, exotic addition, and origin of landing site basalts

Lunar soil is a fine mixture of local rocks and exotic components. The bulk-rock chemical composition of the newly returned Chang’E-5 (CE-5) lunar soi…

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

This Saturday is the expected launch to the Moon.

NASA to replace seal on leaky Artemis 1 moon rocket at the launch pad

It's still unclear if the agency will roll the Artemis 1 stack off the pad before its next liftoff attempt.

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NASA to replace seal on leaky Artemis 1 moon rocket at the launch pad​

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Of course, the Chinese Academy of Sciences will not directly say that the lunar soil given by Americans to other countries is fake.

They implicitly said that China found that the lunar soil brought back by chang'e-5 was very different from the lunar soil donated by the USA.

Again you are such a clown. You specifically said:

However, the Chinese Academy of Sciences also announced that the lunar soil presented by the USA to various countries was fake

This is just a classic example of Chinese PDF members creating "facts" out of nowhere.

So you can't find the announcement...instead you are showing this link

Bulk compositions of the Chang’E-5 lunar soil: Insights into chemical homogeneity, exotic addition, and origin of landing site basalts

Lunar soil is a fine mixture of local rocks and exotic components. The bulk-rock chemical composition of the newly returned Chang’E-5 (CE-5) lunar soi…

www.sciencedirect.com

This is saying the soil they found on the far side of the moon doesn't match exactly with soil brought back by Apollo from the near side of the moon nor the samples brought back by the Soviet Luna probes.

Just because the lunar soil on the far side of the moon doesn't exactly match the near side of the moon doesn't mean the Apollo/Luna samples were fake.

 

[MH.Yang]

Again you are such a clown. You specifically said:


This is just a classic example of Chinese PDF members creating "facts" out of nowhere.

So you can't find the announcement...instead you are saying the soil they found on the far side of the moon doesn't match exactly with soil brought back by Apollo from the near side of the moon nor the sample brought back by the Soviet Luna probes.

Just because the lunar soil on the far side of the moon doesn't exactly match the near side of the moon doesn't mean anything.

Soviet Luna probes?

Chang'e 5 and Chang'e 3 are from China, not the Soviet. We have first-hand information.

And the landing site of Chang'e 5 is not far from the landing site of Apollo 11.

When the Chinese Academy of Sciences said that the two lunar soils had different compositions, it was actually accusing the Americans of counterfeiting.

The Chinese Academy of Sciences is an official organization. They can't be too direct and certain, and they also need to leave room for future cooperation.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Soviet Luna probes?

yes,

Luna programme - Wikipedia

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Luna 16 (September 1970), Luna 20 (February 1972) and Luna 24 (August 1976), returned samples of lunar soil to Earth.[4] A total of 301 g (10.6 oz) of soil sample was returned from the three missions.

Luna 16 sample return probe

Chang'e 5 and Chang'e 3 are from China, not the Soviet. We have first-hand information.

Come on..the Soviets had moon missions too...don't you know about them??

And the landing site of Chang'e 5 is not far from the landing site of Apollo 11.

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Apollo landing sites

Moon rocks brought to Earth by Chinese mission fill key gaps in solar system history

The 2-billion-year-old rocks fill a key gap.

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China's new moon-rock treasure trove may be a billion years younger than the material the Apollo program brought home decades ago, according to new research.

"It is the perfect sample to close a 2-billion-year gap," Brad Jolliff, a planetary scientist at Washington University in St. Louis in Missouri and a co-author on the new research, which was led by a team based in Beijing, said in a statement(opens in new tab).

That gap stretches from about 3 billion years ago, when most of the rocks in the returned Apollo samples formed, to about a billion years ago, when some young dateable impact craters formed.

Scientists hoping to untangle the 4.5-billion-year history of the solar system have combined those time-stamped samples with a technique to identify relative ages called crater dating. "Planetary scientists know that the more craters on a surface, the older it is; the fewer craters, the younger the surface. That's a nice relative determination," Jolliff said. "But to put absolute age dates on that, one has to have samples from those surfaces."

 

[Oldman1]

What if, USA filmed moon landing in Universal studios, than send the apollo 11 alone without human,that's easy,and when other nations question US claims, they can just point to the apollo 11 remains .

Considering Russia and China confirmed that it is true that NASA landed on the moon and the Russians gave up...

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

This Saturday is the expected launch to the Moon.

NASA Teams Replace Seals on Artemis I Moon Rocket, Prepare for Tanking Test

After first disconnecting the ground and rocket-side plates on the interface, called a quick disconnect, for the liquid hydrogen fuel feed line, teams have now replaced the seals on the Space Launch System (SLS) rocket’s core stage associated with the liquid hydrogen leak detected during the Artemis

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After first disconnecting the ground and rocket-side plates on the interface, called a quick disconnect, for the liquid hydrogen fuel feed line, teams have now replaced the seals on the Space Launch System (SLS) rocket’s core stage associated with the liquid hydrogen leak detected during the Artemis I launch attempt on September 3.

Both the 8″ line used to fill and drain liquid hydrogen from the core stage and the 4″ bleed line used to redirect some of the propellant during tanking operations were removed and replaced this week.

Coming up next, technicians will reconnect the umbilical plates and perform inspections over the weekend. After that, they’ll begin preparing for a tanking demonstration as soon as Saturday, September 17. This demonstration will allow engineers to verify the new seals under cryogenic, or supercold, conditions that are expected on launch day, before proceeding to the next launch attempt.

During the operation, teams will practice loading liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen in the rocket’s core stage and interim cryogenic propulsion stage. They will work at getting to a stable replenish state for both propellants. Teams will confirm the leak has been repaired. They will also perform the kick-start bleed test and a pre-pressurization test to validate that the ground and flight hardware and software systems can perform the necessary functions required to thermally condition the engines for flight. Teams will review the test results and develop strategies for the next launch opportunity after analyzing the data.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

This Saturday is the expected launch to the Moon.

So NASA has fueled and drained the SLS multiple times now raising eyebrows that they have likely stress-fractured the center core rocket (as it hasn't been designed with reusability in mind like the SpaceX Falcon 9)..which now people are pointing to this as a high-probability outcome:

Urban Dictionary: wickwick event

A catastrophic failure of the first launch of the NASA SLS rocket, which destroys enough of the ground systems to scuttle the program. Since the first launch is uncrewed, this could happen without any loss of human life, and is widely regarded as the best possible outcome of the program, finally...

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The gist is an explosion would likely transfer the SLS budget to SpaceX's Starship...including rocket scientists

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

NASA's Artemis 1 moon rocket passes crucial fueling test

The Artemis 1 team will now assess if the rocket will be ready for a planned Sept. 27 liftoff.

www.space.com