Nalanda University reopens after hundreds of years!

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Describing the massacres of the latter and the destruction of their vihars, universities, places of worship, the author writes, "The Musalman invaders sacked the Buddhist Universities of Nalanda, Vikramshila, Jagaddala, Odantapuri to name only a few. They raised to the ground Buddhist monasteries with which the country was studded. The monks fled away in thousands to Nepal, Tibet and other places outside India. A very large number were killed outright by the Muslim commanders. How the Buddhist priesthood perished by the sword of the Muslim invaders has been recorded by the Muslim historians themselves. Summarizing the evidence relating to the slaughter of the Buddhist Monks perpetrated by the Musalman General in the course of his invasion of Bihar in 1197 AD, Mr. Vincent Smith says, "....Great quantities of plunder were obtained, and the slaughter of the 'shaven headed Brahmans', that is to say the Buddhist monks, was so thoroughly completed, that when the victor sought for someone capable of explaining the contents of the books in the libraries of the monasteries, not a living man could be found who was able to read them. 'It was discovered,' we are told, 'that the whole of that fortress and city was a college, and in the Hindi tongue they call a college Bihar.' "Such was the slaughter of the Buddhist priesthood perpetrated by the Islamic invaders. The axe was struck at the very root. For by killing the Buddhist priesthood, Islam killed Buddhism. This was the greatest disaster that befell the religion of the Buddha in India...."



The writer? B. R. Ambedkar

To Undo the Scandal, Undo the Control by Arun Shourie

Love the source a blog by a Hindu nationalist .. Voice of dharma..

Yeah yeah .... call the mods.But the forces of Israel and USA are your overlords and they manipulate ,crush your co-religionists daily.

If prosecution n those involved in it are overlords than your kind has several "overlords"... So have a little shame.

 

[DARIUS]

I don't like to respond to uneducated people like you, so don't quote me.

What is your qualification BTW!! Anyways do not bother to reply since I do not count any degree from Pakistani Institutes to be a degree or qualification at all!!!!Worth no value.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

True!! he lives in you...

Calm down toad.. Why are you getting hyper.

Really? To bhoot pret door rakhne ke liye taweez kyon pehente ho? Your attempts to insult me are turnning dumber now. Jimmy is having weird effect on you

Child nobody wears taweez for ghosts ..

It was not an insult or joke but definitely an attempt to troll. You just couldn't control yourself looking at what people were discussing in this thread and the jimmy in you decided to troll a bit.

Just don't cry ..

Some neutral history (Korean source)
WHKMLA : The History of Persecution of the Buddhist Faith

 

[general_yermolov_stalin]

Calm down toad.. Why are you getting hyper.

Child nobody wears taweez for ghosts ..




Just don't cry ..

Some neutral history (Korean source)
WHKMLA : The History of Persecution of the Buddhist Faith

From your own source:

Not only Hindus but also Muslims persecuted Buddhists; in fact, it was Islam that struck a critical blow at Buddhism to virtual extinction in India. From 712, Muhammad bin Qasim at Sindh (now part of Pakistan) made non-Muslims including Hindus and Buddhists who were not willing to convert into Islam pay Jizyah, a fixed tribute. This made Hindus and Buddhists flee to other regions than Sindh in order to maintain the faith of their ancestors and their property.
Mahmud of Ghazni, Sultan of the Ghaznavid Empire in 997-1030, was depicted to be an iconoclast who destroyed the most delicately carved and highly expressive images of the Buddha and treasures of the Buddha art. He reportedly had looted and burned down a great multitude of monasteries, and he also killed a huge number of Buddhist scholars, making many Buddhist monks take refuge in Tibet. (18) Mahmud of Ghazni ended Buddhist self-governance across the Punjab region.

WHKMLA : The History of Persecution of the Buddhist Faith

 

[Areesh]

Unless Muslims officially seek forgiveness for their past crimes, yeah same mind set is there.

Yeah right!!! Come at my place and I would personally give you the apology. Right on your face.

@Chak Bamu

Check this please.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

From your own source:

Not only Hindus but also Muslims persecuted Buddhists; in fact, it was Islam that struck a critical blow at Buddhism to virtual extinction in India. From 712, Muhammad bin Qasim at Sindh (now part of Pakistan) made non-Muslims including Hindus and Buddhists who were not willing to convert into Islam pay Jizyah, a fixed tribute. This made Hindus and Buddhists flee to other regions than Sindh in order to maintain the faith of their ancestors and their property.
Mahmud of Ghazni, Sultan of the Ghaznavid Empire in 997-1030, was depicted to be an iconoclast who destroyed the most delicately carved and highly expressive images of the Buddha and treasures of the Buddha art. He reportedly had looted and burned down a great multitude of monasteries, and he also killed a huge number of Buddhist scholars, making many Buddhist monks take refuge in Tibet. (18) Mahmud of Ghazni ended Buddhist self-governance across the Punjab region.

WHKMLA : The History of Persecution of the Buddhist Faith

Do you think I didn't read the source before posting it? Unlike you guys I don't shy away from neutral n unbiased history..

 

[Yogijaat]

Pusyamitra Sunga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The earliest reference to persecution of Buddhists by Pushyamitra Sunga is from the Sarvastivadin text of 2nd Century CE, Divyavadana and its constituent part, theAshokavadana,[24] which describe an account where Pushyamitra asked his ministers how he could get everlasting fame. They told him as long as Buddhist Law remained, he would have to construct 84,000 stupas as King Ashoka had done.[24] But one priest told him he could have everlasting fame by doing the opposite - destroying Buddhist religion.[24]According to these ancient accounts, Pushyamitra Sunga then went to the Kukkutarama monastery, slaughtered monks and the organization's residence; after which he proceeded to Shakala (Sialkot) where he issued an edict awarding a gold piece for every head of a Buddhist monk brought to him.[24]These accounts state the destruction continued until he arrived at the Bodhi tree.[24] According to other accounts, Pushyamitra Sunga proceeded to Shakala and offered 100 Dinaras for the head of every Buddhist monk.[25]

A Sarvastivadin-Vaibhashika text of 2nd Century CE,Vibhasha, chronicles the legend of Pushyamitra Sunga destroying stupas, demolishing 500 monasteries at the Kashmir border and slaughtering monks; supported byKumbhandas, Yakshas and demons which enhanced his power making him invincible, until he approached the Bodhi tree.[24] According to these narratives, the guardian spirit of the Bodhi tree, Yaksha Damshtranivasin, took the form of a beautiful lady, approached the king, crushed his army and killed the king.[24] A Mahasamghika text, theShariputrapariprichha, translated into Chinese between 317 and 420 CE also mentions the story. TheAryamanjusrimulakalpa uses abusive terms for Pushyamitra Sunga, such as 'Gomimukhya' (cattle-faced) and 'Gomishanda', alluding to Vedic Sacrifices revived under the Brahmin Pushyamitra Sunga.[24]

According to the Tibetan Buddhist Historian, Taranatha, "the brahmana king, Pushyamitra, along with other tirthikasas, started war and thus burnt down numerous Buddhist monasteries from the madhyadesha to Jalandhara. They also killed a number of vastly learned monks. As a result, within five years, the doctrine was extinct in the north (Taranatha, 1970: 121).[24]

Archaeological evidence supporting persecution
According to John Marshall (1955, 1975) there is evidence of damage to Buddhist establishments at Takshashila around the time of Sunga. He proposes the Sanchi stupa was destroyed by Pushyamitra Sunga, but later restored by his successor Agnimitra.[24] According to N.N.Ghosh (1945) the Bharhut gateway was not constructed during the time of Pushyamitra Sunga, but was constructed by his successors who had a more tolerant attitude to Buddhism, compared to Pushyamitra Sunga, a 'leader of Brahmanic reaction'.[24] The destruction of Ghositarama monastery at Kaushambi, in 2nd century CE, is attributed to Pushyamitra Sunga.[24]

According to P.K.Misra,

"Although archaeological evidence is meager, it seems likely, that the Deorkothar stupa geographically located between Sanchi and Bharhut, was destroyed as a result of Pushyamitra Sunga's fanaticism. The exposed remains at Deorkothar bear evidence of deliberate destruction datable to his reign. The three-tiered railing is damaged; railing pillars lie broken to smithereens on stone-flooring. Twenty pieces of pillar have been recovered, each fragment itself fractured. The site offers no indication of natural destruction.(2001).[24]




He isn't dead .. Probably chillin in the hills of murree...


As for souls entering bodies .. Must be a Hindu concept .. I'm not aware of it... No wonder you are acting like cane toad (one of the dumbest animals on the planet)..


P.S : it wasn't a joke or troll .. You will hardly see me insultin any religion .. Including Hinduism ..

LOL you should read the entire wiki page and why did you remove this from your quote of wiki

Academic debate
Some historians, such as K.P.Jayaswal, H.C.Raychaudhury, R.C.Mitra and D.Devahuti, have expressed skepticism of Pushyamitra' s persecution of Buddhists.[24] Étienne Lamotte points out if there was a fight between Pushyamitra Sunga and the Yaksha Damshtranivasin and Krimisha, it is impossible to pinpoint the location.[24] Devahuti agrees with Lamotte and adds the tale of Pushyamitra offering dinaras for heads of Buddhist monks and that of his army suddenly being destroyed is manifestly wrong.[24] Mitra opines the account of the Tibetan Buddhist Historian Taranatha is absurd.[24]

Additionally, H.C.Raychaudhury and Romila Thapar, do not believe in the persecution theory; with Raychaudhury pointing out the ban by Ashoka on animal sacrifices applied not only to yagnas but also to others.[24] Pushyamitra Sunga's death strongly points to a coup d'etat and Thapar points out there was no Brahmanic revolution.[24] A common feature is lack of archaeological evidence.Romila Thapar writes that archaeological evidence casts doubt on the claims of Buddhist persecution by Pushyamitra.[26]Koenraad Elst is also of opinion that accounts linking Pushyamitra Sunga to Buddhist persecution are untrue.[27]

The Asokavadana legend is likely a Buddhist version of Pusyamitra's attack on the Mauryas, reflecting the declining influence of Buddhism in the Sunga Imperial court. The very same Ashokavadana attributes similar cruelty to Ashoka against the Ājīvikas:

“At that time, an incident occurred which greatly enraged the king. A follower of the Nirgrantha (Mahâvîra) painted a picture, showing Buddha prostrating himself at the feet of the Nirgrantha. Ashoka ordered all the Ajivikas of Pundravardhana (North Bengal) to be killed. In one day, eighteen thousand Ajivikas lost their lives. A similar kind of incident took place in the town of Pataliputra. A man who painted such a picture was burnt alive with his family. It was announced that whoever would bring to the king the head of a Nirgrantha would be rewarded with a dînâra (a gold coin). As a result of this, thousands of Nirgranthas lost their lives.”

However, more recently, Giovanni Verardi has criticized ideological claims trying to downplaying archeological and textual evidence of brahmanic religious persecutions. Specifically those carried on by Pusyamitra.[28] Though, support of Buddhism by the Sungas at some point is suggested by an epigraph on the gateway of Bharhut, which mentions its erection "during the supremacy of the Sungas",;[29] it is however contested by N.N.Ghosh who says the Bharhut gateway was constructed by Pushymitra Sunga's successors who had a more tolerant attitude to Buddhism.[24] Sir John Marshall noted that the Sanchi stupa was vandalized during the 2nd century before it was rebuilt later on a larger scale, suggesting the original brick stupa was destroyed by Pusyamitra and then restored by his successor Agnimitra.[30] Similarly, the Deokothar Stupas (geographically located between Sanchi and Barhut) suffered destruction during the same period, also suggesting some kind of involvement of Sunga rule.[31]

According to Danver, the only thing that can be said with certainty is that Pushyamitra Sunga might have withdrawn royal patronage of Buddhist institutions.[24] With patronage shifting from Buddhism to Brahmanism, the Buddhists sided with Sunga's enemies, the Indo-Greeks.[24] Historian H.Bhattacharya and colleagues, opine that as a result, Pushyamitra Sunga put down Buddhists with a heavy hand. Therefore if Buddhists monasteries were pillaged, the motive may be construed as a political one, rather than a religious one.[24] Danver points out that after Sunga Dynasty ended, Buddhism flourished under the Kushanas and the Shakas; and hence Buddhism did not suffer any real set-back due to the Sunga Dynasty.[24] Lamotte says it was the Vishnuite Propaganda that led Buddhism into danger.[24]

 

[Shahmir]

What is your qualification BTW!! Anyways do not bother to reply since I do not count any degree from Pakistani Institutes to be a degree or qualification at all!!!!Worth no value.

Indians as usual are indian , they will do whatever you ask them not to do. Stop quoting me I am not interested in your uneducated worthless responses.

 

[Levina]

Throw that damn phone away then ...Anyway i still feel that it's not in landscape mode.

Its landscape mode only but i had shrinked the screen with fingers to get a complete view of the post while taking the screen shot.

Here's something that will help u get rid of your delusion:

Sudhir Dar (Famous Cartoonist)Kashmiri Pandit and he spells it Dar and fortunately not Dhar.Similarly there are Kashmiris Pandits with the surname Butt or Bhatt as well the both are same with minor difference in pronunciation to make them look different from the Hindus or to be straight their Ancestors.

She spells it as Sandeepa Dhar (Actress from J&K).Similarly their are other Hindu surnames like Guru (As in Afzal Guru) and Rishi now pls dont tell me tat Guru and Rishis are Afghan or Arab tribes!!!

Dhar (surname) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bhat clan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Okay now I know why Mr @Shahmir kashmir gave me the orders to read his post.

 

[DARIUS]

Indians as usual are indian , they will do whatever you ask them not to do. Stop quoting me I am not interested in your uneducated worthless responses.

May be u didn't get me or was just desperate to spew venom I clearly mentioned,"Do not bother to reply"!!And if u had to reply atleast u could have stated ur qualification!!!

 

[DARIUS]

Its landscape mode only but i had shrinked the screen with fingers to get a complete view of the post while taking the screen shot.

Okay now I know why Mr @Shahmir kashmir gave me the orders to read his post.

Why??

 

[jbond197]

Trolls have now launched attack in full strength and destroyed a beautiful thread!!

 

[Levina]

Why??

Because I happened to make a post about Dhar and Bhatts.....oops the Dar and Bhats. Lolz

 

[Shahmir]

Its landscape mode only but i had shrinked the screen with fingers to get a complete view of the post while taking the screen shot.

Okay now I know why Mr @Shahmir kashmir gave me the orders to read his post.

They rightly say that intelligent people always have disagreement over every issue, while stupid idiots are always in agreement to one another on every issue.

 

[Chak Bamu]

@Chak Bamu this is off topic, but what do you pray in your prayers? I mean are they the same verses for all prayers or do they differ?

Each cycle (rakah/rakat) in Namaz must have the first Surah - Fatiha, which is then followed by verses from anywhere in Quran, but mostly one of last 20 or so short Surahs is recited. I could go on to explain more, but it is OT enough. Its best to avoid discussing personal religious practice, and I think I should have avoided the reference in my post. In any case, if you have specific questions, you may ask me in some generic thread or personal message.