Nachley.... The Biggest Reality Dance Competition of Pakistan

[iioal malik]

IN opinion it's very cheep wacthing this.. i m not talking in terms of Islamic point of view but danceing on indian songs dressing up like indians trying to copy it just look so cheep n depressing.......Pakistan got alot of talented people who can come up with some good creative work...but agian we should stop this nonsense

 

[FreekiN]

IN opinion it's very cheep wacthing this.. i m not talking in terms of Islamic point of view but danceing on indian songs dressing up like indians trying to copy it just look so cheep n depressing.......Pakistan got alot of talented people who can come up with some good creative work...but agian we should stop this nonsense

Well, I think it's pretty good for a first try.

And I have no complaint against the songs, because they are basically Pakistani songs with masala on top.

 

[ek_indian]

IN opinion it's very cheep wacthing this.. i m not talking in terms of Islamic point of view but danceing on indian songs dressing up like indians trying to copy it just look so cheep n depressing.......Pakistan got alot of talented people who can come up with some good creative work...but agian we should stop this nonsense

Dear....Am I sensing India bashing here? If you think these songs are so "cheap" (which infact I think too) it is fault of organizors. They should have selected good songs instead which are many . Some guys are saying dressing sense is vulger. Again songs with decent dresses should have been selected instead.

I also agree Pakistan has lots of talent. We are seeing too many of them as well. But it is not India's fault there is no industry. If you guys want to criticize, you are free to do so but to call entire Indian movie industry only shows you know nothing about it.

I did not want to be involved into this (as it was not India specific) but I see few (not all) people are making comments not because they think about religion, culture etc. etc. Their problem is jealousy. I am pretty sure Pakistani music industry must have a number of good songs as well. Why not select them. First you select Indian songs then call it cheap. Great!! Free clap to all.

Personally I agree with emo girl if you don't want to see change the channel. However my opinion is not necessary.

Just for example (nothing to bash anything/anyone)....here is somehting how a presentaion should be made. The fault lies is organizors IMO, not Indian songs at first place.

 

[Musalman]

Someone said asked me 'if i even have read about Allama Iqbal' after I told them that Pakistan was not supposed to be an Islamic Republic. I gave him an excerpt from his speech in which he said that there would be no religiously ruled dominance. I guess he shy'ed away because he never admitted his mistake.

No I didn;t shy'ed away.

Please refer to Iqbal's book Zarb Kaleem

La din seyasat

Jo baat haq mai ho, wo mujh say chupi nahi rehti
Khuda ney mujh ko diya hai dil i khabir wa baseer
Mari nazar mai hai siasat i la din
kaneeza har maan wa duu niha wa murda zameer

 

[courageneverdies]

Alongwith others who are against this cheapest show I am also against it. What the hell is wrong with us? That Star-plus-sony-phobia has done this to us. It ain't that you do not watch them but moderation is required.

Why is evryone following them? their dances and their songs? At first place we say, even the same media group, that we are being waged upon a media war by India and on the contrary they themselves become part of it.

I know what has been the model for them to start this show, the dancing programs of Sony and Star plus indeed and none can deny this fact. We are taking inspiration from India, ok but not in things that may help us to develop ourselves.

I know someone will hurt of it but I can't stop it saying that why don't we copy Indians in Space Technology? We claim to be a member of nuclear group but we do not have even one of our own weather satelite. Why don't we copy them in democracy? Why we not copy them to become masters of Science, Technology and espcially Electrnoics (Software engineers)? Do we have less talent than the Indians? No we have a hell lot of talent but the problem is we use it in negatives... Why do our channels not arrange any educational program? Simple because the people say 'Ain't schools enough for teaching and studying? We watch TV for enttertainment' and this is the entertainment we get...

Please try to promote our own tradition and culture, the Islamic tradition and culture. Why are you people forcing Pakistani Nation to be under Indian media's spell. Indian movies have destroyed your cinemas and now it will destroy our TV industry as well.

KIT Out

 

[Musalman]

I wish i could give more thanks on the above post

 

[Khajur]

A very very interesting thread i must say.

The thread starts with comments on a reality dance show and we have some very valid comments by many pakistani members. I felt that the discussion was hay wire but did bring out a few important points.

Although i'm a hindu living in India, i do have a "bit" of knowledge on Islam.

A couple of points which many of those in Favor of this show might want to consider is :
1)Although Islam does allow dance, it prohibits women folks from dancing in front of male other than her husband. So technically the Show does violate the basic tenant of Islam.
2)Although this shows can be viewed from entertainment perspective, why not have a show depicting Pakistani music? (its strange considering Indian musicians have a legend of blatantly copying Pak music). Something which has more of a Pakistani flavor.
3)I only saw the youtube version .. those shows really are bad production. Almost all have cheap Indian music. Pakistan has a wealth of superior music.. use it instead (why do you think Anu Mallik copies every second song of his from Pakistan?)A couple of points which many of those against this show might want to consider is :
1)Although un-islamic, i really doubt if you will find many from latest generation of Pakistani who really follow Islam to the T. Sorry, but truth is Pakistan really is a Modern state and in process inherited the some of the ills. You have your own share of people who frequent Red areas, who consume Alcohol or who would Indulge in terrorism. So allow the middle class folks to relax and get entertained by a TV show.

2)Dont debate with the Indian angle/culture for this show. For all i know, it were Muslims who were the front runner as far as poetry, songs and music goes (i wont comments on Dance). I mean here in India, we have hugh fan following for legends like Nusrat Fateh Ali saheb, Gulam ali saheb etc. Class in its own. So yes, you might want to fight against vulgarity on this show. Or debate on Merits of Islam accommodating Dance in some way.

If u wonder why pakistani shows,even some of their news clips e,g the the above one use Bollywood songs let me tell u just Bollywood ,not indian cinema alone produces around one thousand songs per year depecting all emotions ,all moments of life in Urdu and sometime with punjabi lyrics the languages widely spoken in pakistan.

The sheer numbers created by demand bound to have its effects on the quality and gibe rise to plagiarism issues ,but nevertherless its popularity is so high that even talented pakistani artists are arriving here and making name and fame for themselves.On a sad note this popularity of bollywood music and its assimilating skill to take in every sort of music , also killed our own music album industry that had produced some memorable music of its own different from bollywood.

Beside that on the issue of plagiarism and copying music ,i would say music directors like Anu Malik or Pritam copy music not just from pakistan but also from the west ,have created some very fine music of their own especially Anu Malik.

Regarding why music of legends like Nusrat Fateh Ali saheb, Gulam ali saheb are not used in dance show like Nachley??

I guess light hearted bollywood duets is particularly more favourable to be used in dance shows as such duets in bollywood movies are created for the very purpose of song and dance movements depicting couples.

 

[FreekiN]

no dancing in this ^^ The judges got so pissed off lmao but they still gave him 29/30 points

As I said before, basically bollywood songs are lollywood songs with masala on top.

 

[MilesTogo]

It is strange how this thread has evolved from "Music is Haram" to "we have better music than India"

 

[s90]

Geo aur jenay do

 

[Kansu]

i watched the dances and i wonder something. Can someone show me a traditional dance? i wonder the traditional dances of Pakistan. if someone can give me a youtube link i would be very pleased. i can seek on google but i dont want to make a mistake and watch indian dances as ''dances from pakistan''.

 

[FreekiN]

i watched the dances and i wonder something. Can someone show me a traditional dance? i wonder the traditional dances of Pakistan. if someone can give me a youtube link i would be very pleased. i can seek on google but i dont want to make a mistake and watch indian dances as ''dances from pakistan''.

They always use Indian songs -_-

just having fun lol

 

[Stumper]

YouTube - Official BISTI song created by GEO for TEAM PAKISTAN after losing 5-0
If u wonder why pakistani shows,even some of their news clips e,g the the above one use Bollywood songs let me tell u just Bollywood ,not indian cinema alone produces around one thousand songs per year depecting all emotions ,all moments of life in Urdu and sometime with punjabi lyrics the languages widely spoken in pakistan.

The sheer numbers created by demand bound to have its effects on the quality and gibe rise to plagiarism issues ,but nevertherless its popularity is so high that even talented pakistani artists are arriving here and making name and fame for themselves.On a sad note this popularity of bollywood music and its assimilating skill to take in every sort of music , also killed our own music album industry that had produced some memorable music of its own different from bollywood.

Beside that on the issue of plagiarism and copying music ,i would say music directors like Anu Malik or Pritam copy music not just from pakistan but also from the west ,have created some very fine music of their own especially Anu Malik.

Regarding why music of legends like Nusrat Fateh Ali saheb, Gulam ali saheb are not used in dance show like Nachley??

I guess light hearted bollywood duets is particularly more favourable to be used in dance shows as such duets in bollywood movies are created for the very purpose of song and dance movements depicting couples.

Khajur: Im not trying to flame.... but i do accept that many a Indian music directors have copied songs from various sources including pakistani (it can be true about Pak music directors doings the same).
My point was that the show looked bad in production value, dance was damn bad and to top it some of the songs i saw were of the cheap-bollywood type. Hence i suggested that the show to use some of Pakistans own beautifull music (and belive me its plenty).

 

[iioal malik]

Dear....Am I sensing India bashing here? If you think these songs are so "cheap" (which infact I think too) it is fault of organizors. They should have selected good songs instead which are many . Some guys are saying dressing sense is vulger. Again songs with decent dresses should have been selected instead.

I also agree Pakistan has lots of talent. We are seeing too many of them as well. But it is not India's fault there is no industry. If you guys want to criticize, you are free to do so but to call entire Indian movie industry only shows you know nothing about it.

I did not want to be involved into this (as it was not India specific) but I see few (not all) people are making comments not because they think about religion, culture etc. etc. Their problem is jealousy. I am pretty sure Pakistani music industry must have a number



I couldn't even read the whole massage it was totally waste of time....you have entirely to much time in your hands wat about Charity work..Well at this point all I've gleamed is u're qutie an exaggerated .....what a flawed argument you make In my original comment i said why are they dancein on indian songs does it mean i m bushing india.I sincerely hope that you come out of the dilemma of fear that india is been ignored by pakistan n other nations.I just don't want to waste any time with some self obsessed who will get offended like a 12 years..........peace out

 

[iioal malik]

Well, I think it's pretty good for a first try.

And I have no complaint against the songs, because they are basically Pakistani songs with masala on top.

Well that's one man opinion....