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New York (CNN) -- A piece believed to be from one of the airliners that hit the World Trade Center towers on September 11, 2001, has been found behind the site of an Islamic community center near ground zero, the New York Police Department said Friday.

Investigators are looking into how a part of what appears to be landing gear became wedged between 51 Park Place -- the site of a controversial community center -- and another building, just a few blocks from ground zero.

"If you see how confined this space is, and you realize the chaos that existed on this street, I think it's understandable. It's not that surprising," NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly said.

"It's very, very confined and no construction work went on, or no clean up went on in this 18-inch space between the two buildings" after the attacks.

Even so, he said investigators are looking at all possibilities, including whether the part was intentionally placed between the two buildings.

"We are also looking into a possibility it was lowered by a rope," Kelly said, adding that a piece of rope appeared to be intertwined with the part.

But Kelly said an initial survey found no marks on the walls between the two buildings consistent with such an object being lowered. He also it appears that there is a break in the rope and that it came down from the roof on top of the plane part.

National Transportation Safety Board investigators will determine whether the part is from either United Airlines Flight 175 or American Airlines Flight 11, which hit the twin towers, he said.

The part "includes a clearly visible Boeing identification number," police said in a written statement released earlier in the day.

American Airlines and United Airlines declined to comment.

"Boeing has been asked by the NTSB to examine the images to see what can be determined," company spokesman John Dern said.

The part was discovered Wednesday by surveyors hired by a property owner. They called 911 to report that they'd found "apparently damaged machinery," police said.
Part of a landing gear was discovered wedged between 51 Park Place and another building.
Part of a landing gear was discovered wedged between 51 Park Place and another building.

"The NYPD is securing the location as it would a crime scene, documenting it photographically," the police statement said.

The plane part will not be moved until after the medical examiner's office completes a health and safety inspection.

"The office of the chief medical examiner will do an in-depth examination of the site to see if there are, in fact, human remains there," Kelly said.

New York police officers were standing guard through the weekend outside the buildings. Investigators are expected to return Monday to determine how to remove the part.

The plane part is about five feet long, four feet wide and 17 inches deep, Kelly said.

The discovery of the plane part comes more than 11 years after the two airliners slammed into the towers of the World Trade Center.

"Well, obviously, this is a manifestation of a horrific terrorist attack a block and a half away from where we stand," Kelly said. "So sure, it brings back terrible memories to anyone who was here and anyone who was involved in that event."

Sally Regenhard, whose son Christian -- a probationary firefighter -- died when the towers collapsed, said she was not surprised by the find.

"I'm disgusted, because after 9/11 the proper search was never done. The whole aftermath was uncoordinated. It was inadequate," she said.

Regenhard has been one of the leading voices and, at times, critics for the families of the September 11 victims, pushing hard for a federal investigation and calling for a more comprehensive search for remains and debris.

"We advocated for a huge trajectory from that collapse," she said. "Human remains were thrown at least for a mile, but probably two or three miles from the site."

In the years since, a number of pieces of debris as well as human remains have been discovered in Lower Manhattan.

"We are cooperating fully with the appropriate authorities to make sure this piece of evidence is removed with care as quickly and effectively as possible," said Sharif El-Gamal, president of Soho Properties, the owner of 51 Park Place.

The building had been the site of furious protests, pitting those opposed to putting an Islamic center near ground zero and those who say it is a center meant to bring people together.

source: N.Y. police: Landing gear part found, is tied to 9/11 - CNN.com
 
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........but titanium made [FDR] black boxes weren't found....not even one!
You mean completely destroyed, kinda like this...

Crew confusion blamed for KAL freighter crash
Investigators had little else to go on as the flight data recorder was almost totally destroyed when the aircraft ploughed into a construction site about 10km south of Shanghai's Hongqiao Airport.
And what make you think FDRs are made of titanium? How about the casing of steel?

MK Halifax crash report
The FDR suffered impact and heat damage in the crash and the tape broke in two places.

Flight Data Recorders (FDR) are not indestructible. If you do not know anything about them and are too lazy to do research, do not make things up. That is dishonest.
 
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........but titanium made [FDR] black boxes weren't found....not even one!

I didn't think Black boxes were used anymore, they have new systems for purpose now.
 
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All debunked years ago...
In ur day dreams may be... In every 911 related thread you make this statement... Like it's ur self-satisfying craving...

"Oh yeah I said it's debunked so it must have been debunked... Shoooo! I feel relieved now"

You mean completely destroyed, kinda like this...
A paper passport of Satam Al Suqami survived & went smashing column after column before landing unscratched on pavement...
(ABC News)

But molten steel was flowing even 2 weeks after, (I myself am witness to news reports 2 weeks later, of molten steel in rubble but paper passport was miraculous.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JSjlxdj3A

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRIS2Nqu-hg

1> http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/243175-9-11-illegitimacy-us-government.html#post4103621
2> http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/243175-9-11-illegitimacy-us-government-3.html#post4110067[/QUOTE]
3> youtube.com/watch?v=VvrXcQIpQDg - Russell Peters
4> youtube.com/watch?v=RRaezLTU2a0 - Ted Gunderson ex-FBI
> youtube.com/watch?v=YZ2VpfUqRoo
 
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In ur day dreams may be... In every 911 related thread you make this statement... Like it's ur self-satisfying craving...
"Oh yeah I said it's debunked so it must have been debunked... Shoooo! I feel relieved now"
Is the 9/11 Troofer movement gained any momentum since these loons revealed themselves? Sure, they got a flash. But now they have been largely dismissed and relegated to the fringe of society. Debunked is the word.

A paper passport of Satam Al Suqami survived & went smashing column after column before landing unscratched on pavement...
(ABC News)

But molten steel was flowing even 2 weeks after, (I myself am witness to news reports 2 weeks later, of molten steel in rubble but paper passport was miraculous.
Nothing 'miraculous' about it. Paper can quite escape, not survive, fire. Escape is the word. Like this life vest...

aa-11_life_vest.jpg


Light weight objects do often escape fire and destruction due to turbulence created by infernos.
 
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Black boxes get damaged in high speed crashes.

Well that's why they were made with rigid steel, one of the reasons black boxes were put in aircraft was so that after a crash they can recover the black box and retrieve data.
 
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Yes they get damaged . But to what extent ? ?Will they also vanish?
The 9/11 aircrafts' FDRs did not 'vanish'. They were destroyed. Is that distinction too difficult to grasp?
 
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