Mysterious event between the Indo-Pak clash

[HAIDER]

This is piece of fired amraam collected from somehwere ...........why so worry ...

 

[ziaulislam]

Well;
I am not here to double down on speculation, as far as F16 being shot down, thats an assertion made by some reputed defence corrospondents like Shiv Aroor and Vishnu Som, so it is a assertion with some credentials, as far as solid proof, if there was concrete evidence of F16 wreckage or other evidence with india it would have or will surface, untill then it remains an assertion.

An Aim120C5 debry with S.No belonging to Pakistani order is the only tangible evidence, it shows that a Aim120C5 was fired now whether it was fired from a F16 or a Suzuki Mehran with a link 16, that is purely for up for readers to argue with, I won't get into that.

The contention on this forum has been that the S.No has been from Taiwan (spelled incorrectly ) from REPORT TO CONGRESS ON SALES OF SIGNIFICANT MILITARY EQUIPMENT TO FOREIGN ENTITIES. from the year 2009, the same report of 2011 states US sold RQ-4 Global Hawk to Pakistan, which we know is not true, and thus I personally will not provide credence to this report.

My post was just to clarify on AIM 120C5 S.No. rest of the hoopla is just entertaining to read.

Unfortunately world has lost credibility of IAF because strike clearly happened in unpopulated area..this is agreed upon by all experts (BBC HINDI, diplomat /guardian/aljzera and NYT)

Also it took a long time to confirm a lost pilot after the twiter trend indiangovtsilent run for long time ..

 

[MilSpec]

Unfortunately world has lost credibility of IAF because strike clearly happened in unpopulated area..this is agreed upon by all experts (BBC HINDI, diplomat /guardian/aljzera and NYT)

Also it took a long time to confirm a lost pilot after the twiter trend indiangovtsilent run for long time ..

That is your opinion, you are 100% entitled to think so.
cheers.

 

[Rank]

 

[terry5]

Why only stating one Indian dead ?
What about the 6 in the chopper dead ?? No mention of this ??

 

[Pakistani Aircraft]

Where is WikiLeaks when you need it?

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Aim 120C could be from a previous engagement between iaf and paf. Between 2005 till 2018

 

[Counter-Errorist]

What is our agreement on F-16s with the US? That we cannot use it against India at all? Or can we use it defensively?

AIM-120Cs have operational ranges over 100km, we could've fired it from Gujranwala for all we know.

 

[Signalian]

Well;
I am not here to double down on speculation, as far as F16 being shot down, thats an assertion made by some reputed defence corrospondents like Shiv Aroor and Vishnu Som, so it is a assertion with some credentials, as far as solid proof, if there was concrete evidence of F16 wreckage or other evidence with india it would have or will surface, untill then it remains an assertion.

An Aim120C5 debry with S.No belonging to Pakistani order is the only tangible evidence, it shows that a Aim120C5 was fired now whether it was fired from a F16 or a Suzuki Mehran with a link 16, that is purely for up for readers to argue with, I won't get into that.

The contention on this forum has been that the S.No has been from Taiwan (spelled incorrectly ) from REPORT TO CONGRESS ON SALES OF SIGNIFICANT MILITARY EQUIPMENT TO FOREIGN ENTITIES. from the year 2009, the same report of 2011 states US sold RQ-4 Global Hawk to Pakistan, which we know is not true, and thus I personally will not provide credence to this report.

My post was just to clarify on AIM 120C5 S.No. rest of the hoopla is just entertaining to read.

It would take a few days more to recover the "F-16 wreck" from IOK i'm guessing. In the meantime F-16's parts can be had from black market and recovered from the site. Everyday Mig-21's engine becomes a F-16's engine online.

PAF cannot parade all 76 F-16's atm due to escalation but should do so after elections in India.

 

[rizhussain44]

Aim 120C could be from a previous engagement between iaf and paf. Between 2005 till 2018

It could even be from day 1 of this escalation when they first entered in our air space. As per some accounts we intercepted them late and failed to hit. Not every missile fired scores a hit anyway

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

It could even be from day 1 of this escalation when they first entered in our air space. As per some accounts we intercepted them late and failed to hit. Not every missile fired scores a hit anyway

7 days of kabadi match in azad kashmir airspace sure too many engagements even in these few days.

 

[Asian.Century]

The two Pakistani kills is all what i am lookimg at: Su30 MKI kill and Israeli upgraded MiG-21 Bison kills by PAF is one hell of brilliant professional performance. Headsup high. That surreal happiness in every Pakistani for defending our land successfully and quietly.

Catching Wing Commander was another master stroke and exposing him through out World to see evidence all out open.

Pakistan actually does it hard and donot talk loud and shout out, it just does it , hits it for world to judge and see. Look at hallow empty lies after lies by Indian media, and Modi govt. Overtime wasting money and time of 1200 million Indians.

Its like something really bad hit India deep and they are just beginning to feel the extreme pain and shock given. The Indians are begining to feel it was a complete failure of all sorts, the politicians are now coming up, janta is talking. The Joint Chief Conference of Tri-services needing a conference to show a broken AIM 120-C5 missile is such a shame with hallow victories & lies again.

Silently and self assuring to each Pakistani and letting the world knows the extent of damage Pakistan has done deep into Indians and yet not brag so loud about it.

Pakistan all the way.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

The biggest mystery is Modi himself!!!! Is he an ISI agent!?!?

I for one won't be surprised....

 

[Riz]

Ask your twitter general, he is in charge of cleanup activity inside Pakistan.

Ohh why not you indian asking ISRO for satellite pics? The claims which your shitty forces are making all with the help of the picture which provided by pak military, why you shameless think we will post our own downed aircraft to make you filthy indians and its army jubilant ?? Thats why u all been called piss drinkers by gentlemens all around the globe

Exactly

IAF right now is the only airforce in military aviation history that uses pieces of enemy missiles to prove that they shot down an enemy aircraft

No other airforce has this distinction. Bharatis should be proud

Yani woh Adalat ko bullet dikha rahy hain k hum na isko chalany waly ko mar dalla..

The biggest mystery is Modi himself!!!! Is he an ISI agent!?!?

I for one won't be surprised....

No he is now paks bitch..

 

[Mig hunter]

I will add few pts to ponder
1. Pakistan side didn't lie a single time, they will not lie on this, at least not on the scale that Pakistan didn't use F16
2. If there would have been even minute indication that an F 16 have been shot IAF would have been on offensive and Indian media would have forgot their captive pilot and would have been celebrating as F 16 rules their nerves
3. If we look at the images and video of wreckage of downed aircraft which fell in IOK, it's huge and covers a lot of area and a lot of fire whereas Mig 21 debris is scattered with out causing much impact on ground hence it was larger air craft which fell in IOK
4. If any air force looses its Frontline air craft at early stage of battle, it has gigantic impact on whole force from top to bottom which can clearly be seen in IAF.
5. If IAF would have downed an F16 against even 2 of their migs 21, Indian attitude would have been more aggressive
6. Lastly, you can't hide such huge thing like wreckage of F16 in this age of social media as with in 8-10 hrs videos and pics from social media starting to surface of Indian bombing sites in Pakistan.
7. The villagers are not so sensible that felling wreckage is of F16 so don't film
My 2 cent opinion so far no F16 have been shot by them while 1 mig 21 is confirmed kill and second is still to be seen but surely it was not Mig 21