Mysterious event between the Indo-Pak clash

[zulu]

I may be wrong
but do you guys have any idea about wg cdr Sahazaz Ud Din of no 19 squadron (sherdils)?

u guys really desperately want someone to shot down ?? try him @Imran Khan even he got the right name declare him Air marshal

 

[Areesh]

so what i understanding from your bootiful logic

1. okay so again you never answer my question from where did they got AIM
2. If not then how the american made missile fired if there was no f16s on flight?

Both of your question are answered in that post. Read again.

 

[War Thunder]

Mysterious event between India and Pakistan. Armed Forces of the both sides hiding the facts from their respective public and i guess with the governments as well.

DG ISPR officially stated that we have shoot down two aircrafts. One wreckage fell inside Pakistan’s territory and another one in IOK side. The aircraft which fell inside the IOK looks like SU30 and in the video, people and Indian Army officers surrounded the wreckage saying “2 pilot hain maray huway” in a clear voice.

DG said, we have TWO PILOTS in which one admitted in CMH. After few hours he said no we have only one pilot. He is a Director general of Pakistan Armed Forces not a keyboard warrior. He never took statements from the internet nor passing unverified information without getting high level briefing. One more thing, he clearly stated “We have never used any F16s”.

Now on the other side, IAF completely silent on Pakistan claim of "SU30MKI" shootdown by Pakistan. But there is another story (event) there in IOK and that was a heli crashed at the same time of engagements btw both sides. One of the father said on the TV “I want revenge from Pakistan”, IAF states that his son died in the crash. If his son died in the crash, why he want revenge from Pakistan then?Is that a mysterious pilot was a SU30 MKI???

Now another story, Today Indian Tri chief have shared the US made BVR missile AIM120 wreckage and claims that IAF shootdown F16 which later fell inside the Pakistan side but we have got the BVR parts. Keep in mins that BVR is only compatible with F16s.

Something is missing between both sides. Govts are not aware of that even.. both Armed forces hiding something very important (might both silently with mutual understanding — securing the credibility of their FRONT LINE Fighters like F16s and SU30MKI).

The PDF shared by someone on this forum carrying a fake typo name (Tiawan instead of Taiwan). Military deals, agreements and documents going through hundred thousands of phases and is that possible the document or agreement or list created in the notepad? oh comeon. Lets aside India narrative here. Is that easy for India to make a fake missile and direction take on head to head against the AMERICAN MADE Military hardware manufacturing with fake information?????

They will **** India if its fake on a serious note, is that we are establishing that PAkistan if not use F16 then WE HAVE MODIFIED JF17 (compatible to fire American missile) this is serious breach of agreement and Pakistan if really did that then going to face some serious sanctions.

Or

Americans want to put some coverup the massive India embarrassment which they are facing across the world, help them with some parts okay go ahead share this shit and stop crying...??? because obviously they dont send the whole F16 wreckage lol

If this is a case then they don't need to show BVR Serial!!!

Now this event will never ever come out in front of the public. Both armed forces hiding some serious facts...

Fishy!!!

Dude get your facts right.
JF17 was always able to shoot AIM 120c.
F-16 is not the only BVR armed fighter. JF-17 Carries the SD-10 which is better than AIM 120.

india could have acquired the missile parts from any of their exercises with any airforce that uses those missiles or just painted over some metal sheet. And not to forget the labeling and serial number of the missile shown by them belongs to the Taiwanese airforce.

Pakistan has shown evidence of what we have blown. india is yet to show any. If they took out an F-16 then why are they claiming the Mig-21 wreckage to be F-16 which is already debunked by their own experts on their own media if you had cared to explore other threads here instead of coming up with a new fantasy of your own.

 

[Arsalan 345]

I may be wrong
but do you guys have any idea about wg cdr Sahazaz Ud Din of no 19 squadron (sherdils)?

sherdils is aerobatics display team.they don't fly f-16.

 

[VCheng]

Now this event will never ever come out in front of the public. Both armed forces hiding some serious facts...

For now, let us just accept the fact that neither side is as heroic or victorious as is being projected for internal consumption.

 

[valkyr_96]

I may be wrong
but do you guys have any idea about wg cdr Sahazaz Ud Din of no 19 squadron (sherdils)?

no information bhai jan as you can see we have posted the same clips which are on youtube and twitter you cannot escape social media....please stop acting naive. Before abhi's rescue the locals had already shared his video on facebook. We are not taking down any video unlike your government.

 

[War Thunder]

As for the missing pilot. How does this sound.

1) He died and india dont want to take on the humiliation and questioning from their public so they didn't bring him up and so did Paksitan didn't want to escalate the situation anymore, so they changed statement to only one pilot in custody.

2) The causalities of the Mi 17 happened because the chopper got targeted by Pakistan and happened to be in the area at the time. indians again dont want embarassment and Pakistan doesnt want to say we hit their military even though we did at several places. Otherwise how convenient that a military helicopter happened to generate a technical fault in the same area at the same time? only deluded indians could believe that fable...

 

[Telescopic Sight]

Okay so from where they have got that foooking peace of American BVR (don't dodge) is that so easy for India too take on confrontation with the American global military supplier by making fake missile with serial no? lol

My own comment copy pasted :

Here you go . The serial number of the missile shows it went to Pakistani Air Force.

http://archive.defense.gov/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3384
Raytheon Co., Tucson, Ariz., is being awarded a $269,646,834 firm-fixed-price contract modification. This action is exercising an option to purchase 500 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM) Air Vehicles (AAVs) Air Intercept Missile (AIM) – 120C-5 missiles and rehost. This effort supports foreign military sales to Pakistan100%. At this time, total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete April 2011. Headquarters Medium Range Missile Systems Group, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028).!

That dumass who shared the Taiwan document could not even spell it right !

 

[Dark-Destroyer]

Dude get your facts right.
JF17 was always able to shoot AIM 120c.
F-16 is not the only BVR armed fighter. JF-17 Carries the SD-10 which is better than AIM 120.

india could have acquired the missile parts from any of their exercises with any airforce that uses those missiles or just painted over some metal sheet. And not to forget the labeling and serial number of the missile shown by them belongs to the Taiwanese airforce.

Pakistan has shown evidence of what we have blown. india is yet to show any. If they took out an F-16 then why are they claiming the Mig-21 wreckage to be F-16 which is already debunked by their own experts on their own media if you had cared to explore other threads here instead of coming up with a new fantasy of your own.

From these threads I've seen alot of Pakistanis seem more like Indians in disguise they dont mind believing the Indian narrative without proof but find hard digesting Pakistani narrative which has proof shows how stupid our people are they are just as shameless

 

[Areesh]

For now, let us just accept the fact that neither side is as heroic or victorious as is being projected for internal consumption.

Vcheng or syed equaling PAF with IAF

One provided concrete proofs while other is showing piece of enemy missile to show that they have shot down an enemy aircraft

But both are same. Typical liberal scum. Playing the balancing act.

 

[Windjammer]

The Indians are in a shock and behaving like headless Chicken, first they said none of their fighters or pilots are missing, then they admitted one and the pilot MIA, despite reports and footage of second IAF crash in IOK, the Indians remained silent on it, instead they are crying to America holding a piece of missile and saying your weapons in Pakistani hands are killing us. The irony is although PAF has AMRAAMs in it's inventory, the missile in Indian possession was purportedly supplied to Taiwan to counter PLAAF.....how can it possibly end in Pakistani hands. Now Indians are admitting the second aircraft with the loss of two pilots was also a MiG-21.
Although there are dual seat MiG-21s but surely would you send a trainer version to intercept PAF aircraft which were allegedly involved in bombing targets in IOK. Thin or damn invisible.

 

[zulu]

As for the missing pilot. How does this sound.

1) He died and india dont want to take on the humiliation and questioning from their public so they didn't bring him up and so did Paksitan didn't want to escalate the situation anymore, so they changed statement to only one pilot in custody.

2) The causalities of the Mi 17 happened because the chopper got targeted by Pakistan and happened to be in the area at the time. indians again dont want embarassment and Pakistan doesnt want to say we hit their military even though we did at several places. Otherwise how convenient that a military helicopter happened to generate a technical fault in the same area at the same time? only deluded indians could believe that fable...

aadmi sahi nahi hu bhai tum kuch din tu sabar kar lu and to indians apnyy phuppaa USA sy kyn nahi poch laity what he instruct us about F 16 ?

 

[Rank]

From these threads I've seen alot of Pakistanis seem more like Indians in disguise they dont mind believing the Indian narrative without proof but find hard digesting Pakistani narrative which has proof shows how stupid our people are they are just as shameless

shows how narrow minded you're and how much u r capable for military discussions. You did not understand the purpose of this thread. Its not about to accept anyones narrative nor person like accepting indias bullshits..
i have asked few questions which are answered by members properly without hoa haa heee or any bashing!

The Indians are in a shock and behaving like headless Chicken, first they said none of their fighters or pilots are missing, then they admitted one and the pilot MIA, despite reports and footage of second IAF crash in IOK, the Indians remained silent on it, instead they are crying to America holding a piece of missile and saying your weapons in Pakistani hands are killing us. The irony is although PAF has AMRAAMs in it's inventory, the missile in Indian possession was purportedly supplied to Taiwan to counter PLAAF.....how can it possibly end in Pakistani hands. Now Indians are admitting the second aircraft with the loss of two pilots was also a MiG-21.
Although there are dual seat MiG-21s but surely would you send a trainer version to intercept PAF aircraft which were allegedly involved in bombing targets in IOK. Thin or damn invisible.

can i put this master peace somewhere ?????

 

[Areesh]

That dumass who shared the Taiwan document could not even spell it right !

That dumbass is in USA government

Check the same spelling and same contract being given to Taiwan here:

https://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/cpic/cp/docs/USA002235-10_Complete Foreign Military Sales.pdf

From these threads I've seen alot of Pakistanis seem more like Indians in disguise they dont mind believing the Indian narrative without proof but find hard digesting Pakistani narrative which has proof shows how stupid our people are they are just as shameless

Completely agreed with your post

Indians are busy proving lies of IAF in any manner but Pakistanis want to question paf despite clear proofs

 

[MilSpec]

Seems like Taiwanese aim 120..

Two or one could be misunderstanding when abhi was taken to hospital

F16 are probably invovled in many other sectors and might have fired BVRs
Otherwise credibility of ISPR will be affected which is going to be a problem

except

Serial: FA8675-05-C-0070

http://archive.defense.gov/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3384