Myanmar Nation unity government calls for Civil War

[MH.Yang]

Your country’s government should have thought about that before giving the coup their blessing,

The Chinese govt did not support any coup. China is only opposed to comprehensive sanctions against Myanmar. Burmese people are already very poor. If the international community imposes comprehensive sanctions on Myanmar, there will be famine there. As for the coup, it is Myanmar's internal affairs and China will not intervene.
Don't you know Aung San Suu Kyi is a pro China faction in Myanmar? In September 2018, Daw Aung San Suu Kyi chaired and signed the China Myanmar economic cooperation agreement with China.

 

[Maula Jatt]

We will treat muslims how minorities are treated in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the Middle east.

I mean our Christians, Sikhs aren't migrating to neighboring countries...
I don't see refugee crisis of Pakistani Christians or Sikhs (not saying there are no issues but its not state policy- infact state policy is to discourage it)

 

[Falconless]

The Chinese govt did not support any coup. China is only opposed to comprehensive sanctions against Myanmar. Burmese people are already very poor. If the international community imposes comprehensive sanctions on Myanmar, there will be famine there. As for the coup, it is Myanmar's internal affairs and China will not intervene.
Don't you know Aung San Suu Kyi is a pro China faction in Myanmar? In September 2018, Daw Aung San Suu Kyi chaired and signed the China Myanmar economic cooperation agreement with China.

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Took you a bit.

Myanmar coup: China blocks UN condemnation as protest grows

The fate of political leader Suu Kyi remains unclear as civilian disobedience gathers pace.

www.bbc.com

China bolsters ties with Myanmar junta despite international condemnation

Beijing makes ‘fundamental assessment’ that its neighbour is set for prolonged military rule

www.ft.com

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...new-myanmar-trade-route-it-seeks-bolster-ties (News site owned by China)

China Starts Calling Myanmar Junta “Government”

Beijing has begun referring to the military regime as the “government” and has pledged to support projects in Myanmar.

www.irrawaddy.com

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/analysis/o...s-violence-aggravates-myanmar-economy/2178776 (Don’t think you have anything against the Turks)

 

[El Sidd]

Pakistan promises help to Bangladesh in any refugee crisis from Myanmar-Burma conflict.

 

[INS_Vikrant]

good for china,india,pakisthan nd russia...they can now sell more weapons to both parties

Not for us, now when Northeastern part of country has finally started to stabilize we really don't want a bloody civil war raging next door.

 

[Leishangthem]

NUG is just a Burmese version of Juan guaido staged by the US,with no validity. Myanmar needs a top down gov that can prevent regime change each time the ruling party collaborate with China for development or Don't cowtow to US edicts .

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

নোটন নোটন পায়রা গুলো ছোটন বেঁধেছে।


dui dharete rui katla veshe utheche

ke dekheche
ke dekheche

dada dekheche

dadar hate kolom chilo,

chure mereche oh !

boddo legeche….

Oh, right, they're playing battle royale

with realistic 4k graphics.

Where are those Burmese who used to raid our thread bragging about russian handouts ?

ostader mair shesh rate

 

[CatSultan]

So reserved seats in Parliament, empowerment quotas and special legal protections?

Don’t forget the seat in Cabinet.

Also, Independent Civil courts and civil autonomy

 

[MH.Yang]

Took you a bit.

Myanmar coup: China blocks UN condemnation as protest grows

The fate of political leader Suu Kyi remains unclear as civilian disobedience gathers pace.

www.bbc.com

China bolsters ties with Myanmar junta despite international condemnation

Beijing makes ‘fundamental assessment’ that its neighbour is set for prolonged military rule

www.ft.com

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...new-myanmar-trade-route-it-seeks-bolster-ties (News site owned by China)

China Starts Calling Myanmar Junta “Government”

Beijing has begun referring to the military regime as the “government” and has pledged to support projects in Myanmar.

www.irrawaddy.com

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/analysis/o...s-violence-aggravates-myanmar-economy/2178776 (Don’t think you have anything against the Turks)

1. China has indeed prevented sanctions against Myanmar. That is because sanctions will not solve the problem, it will only trigger a humanitarian crisis in Myanmar. Once sanctions occur, China will inevitably be impacted by refugees.

2. Any BBC news about China is questionable. They are anti China media. They have made too many rumors.

3, China did not recognize the Burmese military government. Chinese officials call the Myanmar military government "Myanmar military".
https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1692050638586667423&wfr=spider&for=pc&searchword=中国 承认 缅甸

4, The so-called material assistance from China is 7.6 million doses of vaccine donated to Myanmar. US $1.555m donated to Kachin and Shan states (they are ethnic Chinese in Myanmar). Transfer 1 billion Kyats of medical materials purchased and donated by Singapore Lihui foundation.

缅甸疫情、政局、水灾等因素继续，中国发挥建设性作用_手机网易网

8月26日据ISP–Myanmar发布的报告显示，自今年2月份国防军接管政权以来，至8月份的六个月里，武装冲突已造成259600名民众流离失所。据了解，国防军接管政权后，国防军与民地武之间的冲突愈演愈烈。

3g.163.com

5, China does hope to resume the B&R project stopped because of the military coup in Myanmar, but no agreement has been reached for the time being. The Burmese military only agreed to protect the property of Chinese businessmen and resume the construction of China Myanmar oil and gas pipeline.

 

[Bilal9]

1. China has indeed prevented sanctions against Myanmar. That is because sanctions will not solve the problem, it will only trigger a humanitarian crisis in Myanmar. Once sanctions occur, China will inevitably be impacted by refugees.

2. Any BBC news about China is questionable. They are anti China media. They have made too many rumors.

3, China did not recognize the Burmese military government. Chinese officials call the Myanmar military government "Myanmar military".
https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1692050638586667423&wfr=spider&for=pc&searchword=中国 承认 缅甸

4, The so-called material assistance from China is 7.6 million doses of vaccine donated to Myanmar. US $1.555m donated to Kachin and Shan states (they are ethnic Chinese in Myanmar). Transfer 1 billion Kyats of medical materials purchased and donated by Singapore Lihui foundation.

缅甸疫情、政局、水灾等因素继续，中国发挥建设性作用_手机网易网

8月26日据ISP–Myanmar发布的报告显示，自今年2月份国防军接管政权以来，至8月份的六个月里，武装冲突已造成259600名民众流离失所。据了解，国防军接管政权后，国防军与民地武之间的冲突愈演愈烈。

3g.163.com

The Humanitarian crisis in Myanmar is CAUSED by the TATMADAW. As long as they are in power - humanitarian crisis will not go away. Better that Myanmar break apart into separate provinces (Chin, Karen, Shan etc.), instead of being artificially held together like it is now. They are not a homogenous entity.

However they are a strong buyer of arms, even from China itself. That plays into the equation and Chinese support I am sure.

We have had assurances from Chinese FM that they will 'look into' Rohigya repatriation - but that was three years ago. I am sure China CCP does not condone ethnic cleansing.

Bangladesh cannot infinitely keep housing Rohingyas who ARE MYANMAR CITIZENS. Myanmar has to take them back.

A political solution must be found, otherwise things will devolve into terrorism inside Myanmar, no one would want that either.

 

[PakFactor]

The Humanitarian crisis in Myanmar is CAUSED by the TATMADAW. As long as they are in power - humanitarian crisis will not go away. Better that Myanmar break apart into separate provinces (Chin, Karen, Shan etc.), instead of being artificially held together like it is now. They are not a homogenous entity.

However they are a strong buyer of arms, even from China itself. That plays into the equation and Chinese support I am sure.

We have had assurances from Chinese FM that they will 'look into' Rohigya repatriation - but that was three years ago. I am sure China CCP does not condone ethnic cleansing.

Bangladesh cannot infinitely keep housing Rohingyas who ARE MYANMAR CITIZENS. Myanmar has to take them back.

A political solution must be found, otherwise things will devolve into terrorism inside Myanmar, no one would want that either.

@Bilal9 bhai,

Let's look at this more pragmatically. If this Civil War in a sense takes of the ground, Bangladesh can carve out an autonomous region and relocate the Rohingya' s back to their land and train/arm them to defend themselves properly. By extension the Bangladeshi nation can have a ally they can look to as well considering the good will that has been built housing them. BA can act as a peacekeeping force in that region and have what we call strategic depth like we have in Afghanistan.

 

[Bilal9]

@Bilal9 bhai,

Let's look at this more pragmatically. If this Civil War in a sense takes of the ground, Bangladesh can carve out an autonomous region and relocate the Rohingya' s back to their land and train/arm them to defend themselves properly. By extension the Bangladeshi nation can have a ally they can look to as well considering the good will that has been built housing them. BA can act as a peacekeeping force in that region and have what we call strategic depth like we have in Afghanistan.

This is a great idea @PakFactor bhai. A lot of people in Bangladesh support this idea (which in fact was proposed by US senators, to create a buffer state in Arakan) however we are mindful of any repercussion to trade and investments we currently have. We cannot risk disruptions right now and go against UN mandates, though Myanmar is.

Let's see what happens....

 

[MH.Yang]

The Humanitarian crisis in Myanmar is CAUSED by the TATMADAW. As long as they are in power - humanitarian crisis will not go away. Better that Myanmar break apart into separate provinces (Chin, Karen, Shan etc.), instead of being artificially held together like it is now. They are not a homogenous entity.

However they are a strong buyer of arms, even from China itself. That plays into the equation and Chinese support I am sure.

We have had assurances from Chinese FM that they will 'look into' Rohigya repatriation - but that was three years ago. I am sure China CCP does not condone ethnic cleansing.

Bangladesh cannot infinitely keep housing Rohingyas who ARE MYANMAR CITIZENS. Myanmar has to take them back.

A political solution must be found, otherwise things will devolve into terrorism inside Myanmar, no one would want that either.

Here is a video about China netred's visit to Ruili refugee camp in Yunnan.
There are Burmese of various nationalities in the refugee camp, but you can easily find a problem. Rohingyas and Rohingyas play together. Other Burmese ethnic groups play with each other.
It is clear that there is a problem of integration between the Rohingyas and other ethnic groups.
China is only a neighbor of Myanmar, and China has no ability to solve such internal problems. This problem can only be solved by Myanmar and Bangladesh, and China can host these refugees at most temporarily.

https://b23.tv/KmKSok

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

We will treat muslims how minorities are treated in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the Middle east.

Millions of non Muslim Indians/Asians/Westerners work and live in Saudi Arabia/Gulf Arab countries. No one wants to go to backward Myanmar.

 

[mb444]

@Bilal9 bhai,

Let's look at this more pragmatically. If this Civil War in a sense takes of the ground, Bangladesh can carve out an autonomous region and relocate the Rohingya' s back to their land and train/arm them to defend themselves properly. By extension the Bangladeshi nation can have a ally they can look to as well considering the good will that has been built housing them. BA can act as a peacekeeping force in that region and have what we call strategic depth like we have in Afghanistan.

BD already has strategic depth through bengali muslim populations where in matters.

Rohingyas are not particularly populous.

Look at the cost of aquiring strategic depth has caused Pakistan. I postulate BD can not afford it, we do not have global backers like pakistan.

BD focus should be a strong economy that ultimately leads to a strong military to safeguard our sovereignty in an unstable neighbourhood.

Let burma burn.... its not our business. They do not need our assistance to turn it into a hellhole.

As far as rohingya is concerned i do support training and arming them. If the situation merit they should be supported in carving out a free space for them. But BD must not support or take their lead from random group who do not control anything on the ground.