Myanmar General Discussion (non military)

[Reashot Xigwin]

Impressive, buddy! I respect that about you !

That's a first one. Arigatou.

 

[Aepsilons]

That's a first one. Arigatou.

I believe everyone has the right to sexual freedom, and should not be persecuted for their personal preference. Mental abuse and high suicide rates for LGBT community is associated with being bullied.

I am a conservative myself, but at the same time, I don't believe Government or agencies of Government should be telling people how to live or threatening them with particular judgment. In that part I guess I am a liberal when it comes to social justice.

 

[Carlosa]

What is wrong with you. Were you raised without a moral guidance or are you just Amoral to begin with? They fought for independence the same as Karen & they lost that does not mean you should go Franco on their asses. The Acehnese tried to create their separate country & you don't see us doing half of what Myanmar gov. does. Also I though you big on a people being granted independence if they wish so (Catalan)? Also a large numbers of them already here & most of them are already in Malaysia. They're the same as my "kinds." The only difference is my country isn't run by a sociopaths.

The difference is, The Karen were already there, same with the Catalans, the Rohingya on the other hand, came uninvited, pushed the local people out and tried to create a radical new state. I've read plenty about what they did to the local population including the ethnic cleasing of the local non muslim people and there is no way that I can support a foreign group coming in and doing that. its more like invading. I support what MM is doing.

We are not going to agree, so lets leave it there.

 

[somsak]

Fighting for independence where others group has done the same? The Rohingya did what the others already did, but somehow they treated like an untermensch complete with concentration camp. For example the Chinese in here tried to create a communist state & was punished because of it, but even then our military government didn't treated them as god awful at how the Junta treated the Rohingya.

Closed Border = No Profit, Open Border = Much Profit. You saying you don't like money because that is just stupid.



Not a Muslim, but I fight for minority because I am one for starter. I even fight for LGBT alone in here.

What, that Muslims sow the seeds of chaos whenever they go?

Really then explain why my country is better off then? To blame religion means not blaming the actual causes. If Islam ruins the world then why the F are you still breathing? The issues are are more Geo-political, Historical & Cultural in nature.



Excuse me for having a conscience. Also how the hell it even work Liberal & Islamist at the same time?

Your country is explained by your fellow Muslim country man here in PDF that your country is "Country first".
Your country is an exceptionally good example out of the bad norm.

Still, once in a while, your country also has some Christians bullied by Muslims news.

 

[Carlosa]

Your country is explained by your fellow Muslim country man here in PDF that your country is "Country first".
Your country is an exceptionally good example out of the bad norm.

Still, once in a while, your country also has some Christians bullied by Muslims news.

A lot more often than once in a while, what did just happened in Papua 2 days ago where 4 protestors were killed?

Strange that didn't hear Reashot Xigwin supporting the separatist in Banda Aceh and other places in Indonesia.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Your country is explained by your fellow Muslim country man here in PDF that your country is "Country first".
Your country is an exceptionally good example out of the bad norm.

Still, once in a while, your country also has some Christians bullied by Muslims news.

No country is perfect. The Middle East for example got to be the way it is, because the British basically pull a crayon on the map & just scribble borders on it without even thinking. Iraq was actually 3 country grouped into one. Centuries under Ottoman rule you hear nay a peep, but when the British came... You guessed it.

 

[alaungphaya]

A lot more often than once in a while, what did just happened in Papua 2 days ago where 4 protestors were killed?

Strange that didn't hear Reashot Xigwin supporting the separatist in Banda Aceh and other places in Indonesia.

The guy is rather selective of which minorities he champions.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

A lot more often than once in a while, what did just happened in Papua 2 days ago where 4 protestors were killed?

Strange that didn't hear Reashot Xigwin supporting the separatist in Banda Aceh and other places in Indonesia.

I don't support separatism because it will invite chaos, but I support human rights you can search for my post against the gov. treatment of the Papuan in this thread.

 

[Carlosa]

The guy is rather selective of which minorities he champions.

No kidding !!!!!

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

The guy is rather selective of which minorities he champions.

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Over a million got displaced & put into concentration camp qualifies them for my "championing."

 

[Carlosa]

I don't support separatism because it will invite chaos, but I support human rights you can search for my post against the gov. treatment of the Papuan in this thread.

Ohh that's a nice contradiction, the Rohingya, an invading horde from across the border does have the right to fight for independence in the land that they took over, but the ethnic communities of Indonesia don't have that right in their native land even that they have often being abused, had large government induced influx of others during the Indonesian transmigration policy times and even that some of them were promised the right to independence by the colonial powers, but were later pushed or forced into becoming part of Indonesia and often brutally repressed like East Timor, etc, but no, they don't have the right of independence, but somehow the invading Rohingyas do, Wow, you do make a lot of sense, in your distorted mind that is.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Ohh that's a nice contradiction, the Rohingya, an invading horde from across the border does have the right to fight for independence in the land that they took over, but the ethnic communities of Indonesia don't have that right in their native land even that they have often being abused, had large government induced influx of others during the Indonesian transmigration policy times and even that some of them were promised the right to independence by the colonial powers, but were later pushed or forced into becoming part of Indonesia and often brutally repressed like East Timor, etc, but no, they don't have the right of independence, but somehow the invading Rohingyas do, Wow, you do make a lot of sense, in your distorted mind that is.

Look I know you are Morally Inferior, but try not to be intellectually inferior. Where have I been saying that I want Rohingya to have an Independent state? Here's the answer NEVER! If you look at my earlier post you I know I have been adamant about it since page 1. The only thing I want is for the Rohingya to be accepted not giving them a state cause that's insane. That it no more no less. Not to mention with how the world already supported Rohingya its only a matter of time.

 

[Carlosa]

Look I know you are Morally Inferior, but try not to be intellectually inferior. Where have I been saying that I want Rohingya to have an Independent state? Here's the answer NEVER! If you look at my earlier post you I know I have been adamant about it since page 1. The only thing I want is for the Rohingya to be accepted not giving them a state cause that's insane. That it no more no less. Not to mention with how the world already supported Rohingya its only a matter of time.

Your approved of their fight for independence same as the Karen, look at your posts you morally selective guy. Its insane to give them an state? Funny, that's what they tried to do and that's why the burmese hate them among many other reasons and are now paying them back.

 

[alaungphaya]

Your approved of their fight for independence same as the Karen, look at your posts you morally selective guy. Its insane to give them an state? Funny, that's what they tried to do and that's why the burmese hate them and are now paying them back.

It's a little more complicated than that. The Burmese are trying to support the Arakanese who are the real losers in all of this. They've had their own issues with the Burmese and one of the ways of going forward from all that is to support them in their struggle against the Bengalis. What Xigwin has never mentioned is what the Bengalis did in the first place to have the whole of Arakan hating them.

 

[Carlosa]

It's a little more complicated than that. The Burmese are trying to support the Arakanese who are the real losers in all of this. They've had their own issues with the Burmese and one of the ways of going forward from all that is to support them in their struggle against the Bengalis. What Xigwin has never mentioned is what the Bengalis did in the first place to have the whole of Arakan hating them.

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Very correct and because I read plenty and in detail about what the bengalis did there is the reason why I have an strong opinion against the Rohingya. Most people that support them don't have a clue about the history of what happened there