Myanmar-Bangladesh relations

[PlanetSoldier]

We are friendly but faithful to no one but ourselves. From a Burmese perspective, we welcome help in containing BD.

Dream of containing BD plan is visible to me before you said...you don't know but your partner with who you want to attain your dream is well aware that this effort of containment will make this zone divided in more pieces...this is Bangali keep in mind, your partner (master) always keeps this fact in mind. In fact, I welcome something like that .

Kallu, there wouldn't be a Bangladesh to speak of without the Indians. You are the bastard children of England, India and Pakistan.

We Bangladeshi could be bastard children of England, india and Pakistan, definitely it means we are human breed. But you Burmese people seem to be a breed of animal and human composing a new breed manimal thus detached from whole the world caged in prehistoric jungle life.

 

[INDIC]

State religion =/= theocracy.

Then what is it??

Shows you are too lazy to educate yourself.

I know one thing if leaders are not communists or clerics then they still have basic knowledge about economics. Like our Indian communists still dwell in license raj era of 70s-80s and clerics always talks about changing whole economic model starting with introduction of gold currency instead of paper currency.

 

[TopCat]

Theocratic state isn't really an issue here. i would be happy to live in a Buddhist/Jain/Hindu/baha'i Theocracy. UK is a officially Christian Country. The nature of the religion in the question is the issue. Not the form of state.

Ohh you have a problem with Islam...

We know that..

 

[yoku]

Ohh you have a problem with Islam...

We know that..

who would want to live in an Islamic Theocracy. where Twitter updates can result in Death sentences, it's considered 'acceptable' for half of Humanity to roam around in Black Tents, it's considered Piety to Kill Homosexuals and cut off female genitalia lest they feel aroused, And the worst of all, the discussion of all these ills will get you labeled traitor by fellow coreligionists if You are Muslim and get you called Anti-Muslim/Anti-Islam if you are of some other persuasion.

There, when one cannot speak what he feels about the ills of the society (in the name of religion or ethnicity), the society doesn't deserve respect.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Theocratic state isn't really an issue here. i would be happy to live in a Buddhist/Jain/Hindu/baha'i Theocracy. UK is a officially Christian Country. The nature of the religion in the question is the issue. Not the form of state.

A big LOL....

Then what is it??

Grab some books.

I know one thing if leaders are not communists or clerics then they still have basic knowledge about economics. Like our Indian communists still dwell in license raj era of 70s-80s and clerics always talks about changing whole economic model starting with introduction of gold currency instead of paper currency.

And people say we are the only ones engaging in conspiracy theories.

Looks like we aren't alone.

 

[TopCat]

who would want to live in an Islamic Theocracy. where Twitter updates can result in Death sentences, it's considered 'acceptable' for half of Humanity to roam around in Black Tents, it's considered Piety to Kill Homosexuals and cut off female genitalia lest they feel aroused, And the worst of all, the discussion of all these ills will get you labeled traitor by fellow coreligionists if You are Muslim and get you called Anti-Muslim/Anti-Islam if you are of some other persuasion.

There, when one cannot speak what he feels about the ills of the society (in the name of religion or ethnicity), the society doesn't deserve respect.

Well with your knowledge of Islam I better suggest you to stay away from Islam and live in Hindu Theocratic society where millions of children were aborted only because they were born without a penis.. good luck

 

[INDIC]

Grab some books.



And people say we are the only ones engaging in conspiracy theories.

Looks like we aren't alone.

please clarify both replies.

 

[yoku]

Well with your knowledge of Islam I better suggest you to stay away from Islam and live in Hindu Theocratic society where millions of children were aborted only because they were born without a penis.. good luck

OLD crap of Lack of understanding of Islam.

Abortions are a real deal. They will disappear as quickly as they emerged in to the society. Only, we don't hide behind labeling people 'anti-Hindu'. That's the point of living in a Free society.

And BTW, Your Knowledge about Hindu religion is extraordinary, as you assumed, like in Islam, Hindu version Mohammed gave a diction back in 3000BC in some book about aborting Female Child. Thanks for Proving the obvious that You won't leave your Islamic Goggles when looking at other cultures.
We aren't People of the BOOK to follow something as given by GOD neither we are like a founded religion. Different communities have different customs, beliefs, deities, even different social ills and issues. All were region/community specific. I am sure, You would know things about Bengali society. like a few castes had 'sati' and windows weren't allowed get remarried (esp true of Brahmins). Same is true of other things you would like to associate with Evil religion of Hindu.(ism)

 

[TopCat]

OLD crap of Lack of understanding of Islam.

Abortions are a real deal. They will disappear as quickly as they emerged in to the society. Only, we don't hide behind labeling people 'anti-Hindu'. That's the point of living in a Free society.

And BTW, Your Knowledge about Hindu religion is extraordinary, as you assumed, like in Islam, Hindu version Mohammed gave a diction back in 3000BC in some book about aborting Female Child. Thanks for Proving the obvious that You won't leave your Islamic Goggles when looking at other cultures.
We aren't People of the BOOK to follow something as given by GOD neither we are like a founded religion. Different communities have different customs, beliefs, deities, even different social ills and issues. All were region/community specific. I am sure, You would know things about Bengali society. like a few castes had 'sati' and windows weren't allowed get remarried (esp true of Brahmins). Same is true of other things you would like to associate with Evil religion of Hindu.(ism)

Now you are going from some religion to no religion now.. Good going

 

[Zabaniyah]

OLD crap of Lack of understanding of Islam.

Abortions are a real deal. They will disappear as quickly as they emerged in to the society. Only, we don't hide behind labeling people 'anti-Hindu'. That's the point of living in a Free society.

And BTW, Your Knowledge about Hindu religion is extraordinary, as you assumed, like in Islam, Hindu version Mohammed gave a diction back in 3000BC in some book about aborting Female Child. Thanks for Proving the obvious that You won't leave your Islamic Goggles when looking at other cultures.
We aren't People of the BOOK to follow something as given by GOD neither we are like a founded religion. Different communities have different customs, beliefs, deities, even different social ills and issues. All were region/community specific. I am sure, You would know things about Bengali society. like a few castes had 'sati' and windows weren't allowed get remarried (esp true of Brahmins). Same is true of other things you would like to associate with Evil religion of Hindu.(ism)

^^^Sounds like a mad homo.

 

[yoku]

Now you are going from some religion to no religion now.. Good going

of course there's no religion like religion in India before the advent of Abrahamic religions. It's more like today's world where doctors, engineers, Businessman, Priests, Scholars, living as endogamous communities. There is a reason, why literature of 18th century talks about Hindu religion as NOT an egalitarian religion as opposed to Buddhism/Jainism/Sikhism. There were only religious movements/spiritual movements within each regions, a few became more popular like Buddha, Jain in the ancient times and Sikh faiths in medieval period.

say, for example none of the "religious" traditions(as in invoked by divine law/source) common to Rajasthan and Kerala. same is true with Bali/surinama in other parts of the world.

Let's say, A statement "Hinduism has son preference". Yes and No. Because, son was necessary for Warrior or Administers class/caste, Those people developed natural preference for a son over years and this can attributed to Hindu religion as they incorporated these preferences in to traditions over centuries. While none of the other communities didn't have to care.

The problem with this 'Hindu' religion is it's too diffuse to call it a religion by Abrahamic standards. All we have in common is the tradition of Saints, renunciation, belief in Karma, Epics-there by related languages, and Vedas(as in ancient wisdom/Knowledge of Medicine/Arts/Philosophy/Logic etc.,). Rest is Organic traditions of communities living in India.

would you call 'West(ism)' is a religion as in religion of West in a hypothetical scenario.


Just because you add an 'ism' which actually means an ideology not religion, doesn't make it a religion. it's more like a civilization.

 

[eastwatch]

Must hurt your national pride somewhat if you don't like the Indians but it's true.

Never going to happen. Might aswell let them join your glorious nation.

Rohingyas are welcome to join BD, but they must bring their homeland Arakan with them. Karens also deserve to take away their land from Myanmar. Burman people are unfit to live with others. Burmans have a cave mentality. Let these cave people live in the cave they are digging. Other tribes dislike a Burman supremacy over them. So, a dis-Union of Myanmar is needed.

 

[eastwatch]

The fact is Hindu hating Jamatis in Bangladesh wishes all trade relation with India to be scraped and mostly see Myanmar as an option to counter India. Recent incidents really came as a real shock for them.

Many in India believe that Myanmar is much more reliable than Bangladesh because Bangladeshi make issues even out of the sound of fart. Most of the trade deal between India-Myanmar went without much hurdles but same becomes a huge national issue in Bangladesh because of the blessings of anti-India Jamatis and their supporters.

Some Jamaatis have one track mind. they make issue out of nothing. Of course, BD needs a good relationship with India for its economic survival. We get many essential raw materials from India that we convert to finished goods and export. Not all people share jamaati view on this matter, not even BNP people. However, India creates problem by withholding our legitimate water.

Here you will find some people with BNP slogans, but they are essentially Jammatis. Some of them are silent now because their illogical faith on Burma has already collapsed. Myanmar being Myanmar which cannot even come into terms with its own people, how these Jamaatis thought this country a saviour for them?

If we go Jamaati way we will ruin ourselves to a Taliban state like some others in your western front. We want a progressive BD and a correct solution of Rohingya issue in our southeast.

 

[Bond]

I hear you man... as you said only matter of concern between India & BD is water issue.. which can be resolved by dialogues... we all are civilized people (ok-may be not jamaatis)... BD & India will prosper in future together irrespective of what jamaatis & few stranded pakistanis in Bangladesh think...

Some Jamaatis have one track mind. they make issue out of nothing. Of course, BD needs a good relationship with India for its economic survival. We get many essential raw materials from India that we convert to finished goods and export. Not all people share jamaati view on this matter, not even BNP people. However, India creates problem by withholding our legitimate water.

Here you will find some people with BNP slogans, but they are essentially Jammatis. Some of them are silent now because their illogical faith on Burma has already collapsed. Myanmar being Myanmar which cannot even come into terms with its own people, how these Jamaatis thought this country a saviour for them?

If we go Jamaati way we will ruin ourselves to a Taliban state like some others in your western front. We want a progressive BD and a correct solution of Rohingya issue in our southeast.

 

[eastwatch]

Myanamar was an empire.. hahahahah
OK

The name Burma came out from the name of a group of people called 'Burman.' These Burmans conquered other present day Burmese states. So, it is a Burmese Empire. When the political power of Bengal went to the British from the muslims, it created a vacuum in its eastern region of Assam, manipur etc. The Burman barbarians invaded this region and captured it only to be ousted by the Presidency of Bengal under the British.

This is the short history why the King Alaunphagaya speaks of a Burmese empire of the past. Thing is, we also had a larger and lasting empire for 550 years that comprised present day Bangladesh, west Bengal, Bihar, Jharkhand, Orissa and a part of Audh (Ajodhya or UP). Arakan itself remained a vassal state of ours for about a hundred years. While we do not brag about it, this fellow, who named himself after a King here, is talking about their fragile short-lived past empire.