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Oh my god another Zionist.Doesn't our forum already have more than enough Zionists.

For the Bold Part:Save your strength for convincing the world.Oh but i forgot doesn't Zionist Controlled Media already does it.

As for the Underline part.:rofl::rofl::rofl:

As for the Non-Highlighted Part.Yup you are right 35,000 have been killed but not only in Khyber-Pakhtoonkhwa but all over Pakistan by the Indo-Israeli funded TTP terrorists in Bomb Blasts.

As for Bangladesh first we didn't killed Millions otherwise your world wouldn't had remain quiet and secret would had discovered long ago.heck even their Pro Indian Government doesn't claim Millions.And Yes Innocents were killed during creation of Bangladesh but at least we have the courage to accept it,apologize for it,handing over the perpetrators,even the grand children of those who committed crimes in Bangladesh don't have courage to get in Public.

The comment that I was responding to is that Israel is somehow morally inferior to Pakistan.

This simply is not the case.

Comparing military history between Israel and Pakistan, or any Islamic state, and it isn't even a competition.

For comparison:

Operation Black Thunderstorm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,450 KIA by Pakistan

600KIA

Operation Rah-e-Nijat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,800KIA

Battle of Bajaur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since March 31st over 700 have been killed.

In 14 days 700 have been killed!!!


As I said before, it is dubious to compare Pakistan to Israel.

Wat r u trying to say?they PA is siding with indian supported ttp?
And how does Pak army has a free pass to do as it pleases in north?
Care to explain before blaming others?

PA has a strong relationship with India and Pakistan. But of course, the relationship is more words than anything because they donate less than 2% of all humanitarian aid to the West Bank/Gaza.

Pakistan spends more funding LeT to attack Hindus in Kashmir (Mumbai for example) than on the Palestinians they supposedly love so much.

Compare Israel's policies towards the Palestinians to Pakistan's punishment of civilians living under the Taliban. How many made homeless? 3 million? I remember when I was in Gaza I worked in a temp-hospital built a few kilometers from Sderot to attend to injured Palestinians!

Escorting aid into the karem crossing, and then Hamas steals the aid and sells it back for profit.

This of course is unrelated to the thread mostly, but again it is a response to the claims that Pakistan's military policy is superior to Israel.
The number u have quoted is the total death toll from terrorism in whole country not killings of Pakistan army.
So next time u watch wat ur ranting while accusing PAK ARMY.

And we all know 1400 plus dead in 2 weeks last year?dont we..
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Pakistan has conducted many OCL-like wars this year. So has the United States.

Heck, Saudis killed over 8,000 in operation scorched earth. Where was the outrage? My question is why is Pakistani citizens so pre-occupied with the Palestinians when they live better than not only civilians living under the Taliban, but ordinary Pakistani citizens.

Yeah enough with ur so called moral standards?
forcing palistenians out of there houses coz u think thousands of years ago...jews lived there?
Using phosphorus bombs?
Indiscriminate bombings?

Last I checked Israel used WP as a smokescreen to protect wounded soldiers when their extracting from high-intensity environments (i.e, crowded streets with hamas hiding in buildings, etc..)

this is not unique. It is a standard weapon used in urban warfare and Pakistan uses it all the time.

WP has a burn time of 15 minutes and explodes above the service. It is not illegal and no evidence has been provided that Israel used WP to harm civilians.

It wasn't weapons grade-WP. As far as Palestinians "forced" out of their homes, I don't really know how many. If you're talking about those who fled in 1948...that's hardly persuasive.

Over 10,000,000 fled when India was partitioned in Pakistan/India, of those 1,000,000 died.

Not exactly fair to hold Israel's legitimacy hostage based on an event that happened 6 decades ago.

I feel like I'm going off topic here! :cheers:
If I may answer these questions for my fellow Zionist: these policies were claimed in a documentary made by PBS a few months ago of the P.A. fighting the Taliban.link

PA?
 
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It's good to quote statistics and hard data, but do have a care. For example, that "300,000 excess deaths" ("excess deaths" one must always examine the methodology) includes Afghanistan and Iraq - almost certainly far and away the largest part of that figure.

When you look at things a bit more carefully, you see that the number of Arab civilian casualties due to the Israeli-Arab conflict is small compared to most of the other conflicts in the world. In my opinion most of it is likely a function of the shadow of the oppression Arabs experience at the hands of other Arabs, for whom valor (against Jews) is the better part of discretion - otherwise they'll be subject to terror at the hands of their own.

Can we go back to enjoying comments on the video now?

Solomon you missed an important point, these numbers are for Palestinians in Palestine, not for arabs.
And plz stop, you want to negate the seriousness of this by looking at it from a larger perspective citing arab casualties in general, so typical for zionism. It would be the same for me to say, hey the number if Jews killed in WW2 is small compared to the number of other conflicts or the number of casualties in WW2, therefore it's not that serious.
I am sorry to say that because of zionism a lot of jews lost their humanity and morals a long time ago. Thank God for the handful of jews who are still sane and can see the fallacy of having created Israel in contradiction with judaism.
 
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The comment that I was responding to is that Israel is somehow morally inferior to Pakistan.

This simply is not the case.

Comparing military history between Israel and Pakistan, or any Islamic state, and it isn't even a competition.

For comparison:

Operation Black Thunderstorm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,450 KIA by Pakistan

600KIA

Operation Rah-e-Nijat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,800KIA

Battle of Bajaur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since March 31st over 700 have been killed.

In 14 days 700 have been killed!!!


As I said before, it is dubious to compare Pakistan to Israel.

Wooo Woooo Wooo so now we are official that TTP is supported by Mossad.

On a Side may i ask how much you are payed by Mossad for Spreading lies on the Web?and does Mossad pay you in Dollars or Israeli Currency.
 
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Solomon you missed an important point, these numbers are for Palestinians in Palestine, not for arabs.
Sorry, I read it wrong. I also have great trouble believing in "excess deaths" calculations. I'd have to see more empirical data supporting it. That's for another thread. So is the question of whether or not Israel is responsible for such.

you want to negate the seriousness of this by looking at it from a larger perspective citing arab casualties in general -
No, I'm pointing out that much anti-Israel advocacy is a product of Arab terror against Arabs.
 
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The comment that I was responding to is that Israel is somehow morally inferior to Pakistan.

This simply is not the case.

Comparing military history between Israel and Pakistan, or any Islamic state, and it isn't even a competition.

For comparison:

Operation Black Thunderstorm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,450 KIA by Pakistan

600KIA

Operation Rah-e-Nijat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,800KIA

Battle of Bajaur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since March 31st over 700 have been killed.

In 14 days 700 have been killed!!!


As I said before, it is dubious to compare Pakistan to Israel.



PA has a strong relationship with India and Pakistan. But of course, the relationship is more words than anything because they donate less than 2% of all humanitarian aid to the West Bank/Gaza.

Pakistan spends more funding LeT to attack Hindus in Kashmir (Mumbai for example) than on the Palestinians they supposedly love so much.

Compare Israel's policies towards the Palestinians to Pakistan's punishment of civilians living under the Taliban. How many made homeless? 3 million? I remember when I was in Gaza I worked in a temp-hospital built a few kilometers from Sderot to attend to injured Palestinians!

Escorting aid into the karem crossing, and then Hamas steals the aid and sells it back for profit.

This of course is unrelated to the thread mostly, but again it is a response to the claims that Pakistan's military policy is superior to Israel.
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Pakistan has conducted many OCL-like wars this year. So has the United States.

Heck, Saudis killed over 8,000 in operation scorched earth. Where was the outrage? My question is why is Pakistani citizens so pre-occupied with the Palestinians when they live better than not only civilians living under the Taliban, but ordinary Pakistani citizens.



Last I checked Israel used WP as a smokescreen to protect wounded soldiers when their extracting from high-intensity environments (i.e, crowded streets with hamas hiding in buildings, etc..)

this is not unique. It is a standard weapon used in urban warfare and Pakistan uses it all the time.

WP has a burn time of 15 minutes and explodes above the service. It is not illegal and no evidence has been provided that Israel used WP to harm civilians.

It wasn't weapons grade-WP. As far as Palestinians "forced" out of their homes, I don't really know how many. If you're talking about those who fled in 1948...that's hardly persuasive.

Over 10,000,000 fled when India was partitioned in Pakistan/India, of those 1,000,000 died.

Not exactly fair to hold Israel's legitimacy hostage based on an event that happened 6 decades ago.

I feel like I'm going off topic here! :cheers:


PA?

Golani listen, why do you still contradict what has been documented by the world's leading historians?
Everyone today knows that you came to colonize Palestine and establish a jewish state on its place, indigenous people or not.
You never meant to live in peace with your neighbours
You would never have been satisfied with the territory allocated to you in 1947
you have lied and deceived the world with zionist propaganda about an empty land for a people without a land, a desert that turned green after your arrival, the attacks of so called superior armies on your peace loving people, the non-existence of Palestinians and Palestine as a nation, that palestinians left voluntarily and were not forced out etc etc etc.
I am sorry to say this, but as professor Shlomo Sand said, "Israel is like a house of cards built on lies, and it will fall apart one day".

Do you honestly believe that Israel will survive in the Middle East in the long run? seriously?
 
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Sorry, I read it wrong. I also have great trouble believing in "excess deaths" calculations. I'd have to see more empirical data supporting it. That's for another thread. So is the question of whether or not Israel is responsible for such.

No, I'm pointing out that much anti-Israel advocacy is a product of Arab terror against Arabs.

Well as an occupying power, I believe, that any deaths that is a result of occupation, whether it being people who are killed by the army or die on check points because they are not allowed to cross, or it being deaths that is the result of the closure policy and hence lack of medicine etc can be ascribed to Israel.

The anti-Israel notion is merely a result of religious, historical and political aspects most people today are aware of. But the thing is that the creation of Israel in the midst of the Arab and muslim world is really the root of this problem, on top of that Israel is not really doing anything practical to help abolish this notion, on the contrary.
What do you honestly think you will achieve by
a) continuing occupation and mistreat the occupied people
b) actively fueling the Muslim vs West conflict
c) bully your neighbours (with the US behind your back)
 
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For comparison:

Operation Black Thunderstorm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,450 KIA by Pakistan

600KIA

Operation Rah-e-Nijat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,800KIA

Battle of Bajaur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since March 31st over 700 have been killed.

In 14 days 700 have been killed!!!


As I said before, it is dubious to compare Pakistan to Israel.

Ever heard of dead terrorists?


There are more then 100000 PAK ARMY soldiers in tht area?
Even they took 2200 plus casualities?
And the figures ur giving is of dead talib fighters not civilian casualities.....all these areas were evacuated before operation...........in other words ur try to make dead talibs into civilians is falsified and wrong.

PA has a strong relationship with India and Pakistan. But of course, the relationship is more words than anything because they donate less than 2% of all humanitarian aid to the West Bank/Gaza.


So we shouldnt do or say anything?
We are suffering from economic crunch...ever heard of it???
our gdp crashed from average 8-9% to barely 5% since 2007-8??


Pakistan spends more funding LeT to attack Hindus in Kashmir (Mumbai for example) than on the Palestinians they supposedly love so much.


Only a one nut monkey will believe tht?
LET is already banned in Pakistan.......why would Pakistan support them???
Yes mahjority of Pakistan supports mujahedeen like yaseen malik,ilyas kashmiri, and huriat leader syed gillani etc....they have every right to deciede there future????as per UN....
Its the highest militarised zone in the world???why is it ??? if kashmiris want to live under indian occupation???
FREEDOM FOR ALL.......THEY ARE LIVING LIKE JEWS UNDER NAZIS.


Compare Israel's policies towards the Palestinians to Pakistan's punishment of civilians living under the Taliban. How many made homeless? 3 million? I remember when I was in Gaza I worked in a temp-hospital built a few kilometers from Sderot to attend to injured Palestinians!


ha' cheap ranting by a jewish terrorist........those people were displaced they were asked to evacuate coz of military operation against taliban>?????do u support taliban????looks like u do.
Govt. did everything in power to help them......from providing tents to basic nessecities of life........even helped them financially and not all of 3 million people lived in camps......and now they r living in there areas(after returning) and rehabilitation is underway to help them even compensate there loses of crops etc....

U terrorist supporting liar.

Escorting aid into the karem crossing, and then Hamas steals the aid and sells it back for profit.

U nazis barely allow AID..we have see n wat zoinist ashkenazi terrorists did last year.


This of course is unrelated to the thread mostly, but again it is a response to the claims that Pakistan's military policy is superior to Israel.
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It is coz we are fighting terrorists not OUR people....unlike u who dont even think palis are even humans...from ur grand rabbis statements to ur B.S of ur terrorist politicians.

Pakistan has conducted many OCL-like wars this year. So has the United States.

My question is why is Pakistani citizens so pre-occupied with the Palestinians when they live better than not only civilians living under the Taliban, but ordinary Pakistani citizens
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Again ur B.S.....wat do i think Pakistan looks like???
Moron our infra is better then ur beloved indian frnds......our children arent facing malnutician...like half population of children in india....we arent having 500 million livin under 2 $ per day.....take a look at our GDP till 2007......wont be surprised to see u shocked.
U can consult Riaz haq for more info...
Did our nukes bugg u or coz pain in ur pain side?in 1998 when u sent ur F-16s to strike our nuclear installation??????


Last I checked Israel used WP as a smokescreen to protect wounded soldiers when their extracting from high-intensity environments (i.e, crowded streets with hamas hiding in buildings, etc..)

Wat?u were bombing food program centers run by UN????
And see this





http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=280D0D2A81F63DFB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=vxB4gQSIyfw

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=280D0D2A81F63DFB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=vxB4gQSIyfw

this is not unique. It is a standard weapon used in urban warfare and Pakistan uses it all the time.

Yeah right.....who told you?swami shankar from india?the snake charming guru????
Again B.S


WP has a burn time of 15 minutes and explodes above the service. It is not illegal and no evidence has been provided that Israel used WP to harm civilians.

See above videos...
Dont understand why UN accuses israel of war crimes?????:hitwall::hitwall:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=280D0D2A81F63DFB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=vxB4gQSIyfw


It wasn't weapons grade-WP. As far as Palestinians "forced" out of their homes, I don't really know how many. If you're talking about those who fled in 1948...that's hardly persuasive.

Illegal settlements?





Over 10,000,000 fled when India was partitioned in Pakistan/India, of those 1,000,000 died.

SO???? more muslims died in tht???and tht was a partition muslim policemen,soldiers were unarmed?

Pakistan was the most backward area with only 1 jute mill, 1 texile mill and only 1 university while ur indian friends had the most industrilised area.....even 18 plus ordinance factories(just an example).

Not exactly fair to hold Israel's legitimacy hostage based on an event that happened 6 decades ago.

Looks like Obama is stupid for slaming israeli settlements tht happened 6 decades ago according to u???

DO U ACCEPT OTHER ATTROOCITIES I POINTED IN MY PREVIOUS POSTS???
LOOKS LIKE YES.....I GUESS?



PAK ARMY.
 
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For comparison:

Operation Black Thunderstorm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,450 KIA by Pakistan

600KIA

Operation Rah-e-Nijat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,800KIA

Battle of Bajaur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since March 31st over 700 have been killed.

In 14 days 700 have been killed!!!


As I said before, it is dubious to compare Pakistan to Israel.

Ever heard of dead terrorists?


There are more then 100000 PAK ARMY soldiers in tht area?
Even they took 2200 plus casualities?
And the figures ur giving is of dead talib fighters not civilian casualities.....all these areas were evacuated before operation...........in other words ur try to make dead talibs into civilians is falsified and wrong.

PA has a strong relationship with India and Pakistan. But of course, the relationship is more words than anything because they donate less than 2% of all humanitarian aid to the West Bank/Gaza.


So we shouldnt do or say anything?
We are suffering from economic crunch...ever heard of it???
our gdp crashed from average 8-9% to barely 5% since 2007-8??


Pakistan spends more funding LeT to attack Hindus in Kashmir (Mumbai for example) than on the Palestinians they supposedly love so much.


Only a one nut monkey will believe tht?
LET is already banned in Pakistan.......why would Pakistan support them???
Yes mahjority of Pakistan supports mujahedeen like yaseen malik,ilyas kashmiri, and huriat leader syed gillani etc....they have every right to deciede there future????as per UN....
Its the highest militarised zone in the world???why is it ??? if kashmiris want to live under indian occupation???
FREEDOM FOR ALL.......THEY ARE LIVING LIKE JEWS UNDER NAZIS.


Compare Israel's policies towards the Palestinians to Pakistan's punishment of civilians living under the Taliban. How many made homeless? 3 million? I remember when I was in Gaza I worked in a temp-hospital built a few kilometers from Sderot to attend to injured Palestinians!


ha' cheap ranting by a jewish terrorist........those people were displaced they were asked to evacuate coz of military operation against taliban>?????do u support taliban????looks like u do.
Govt. did everything in power to help them......from providing tents to basic nessecities of life........even helped them financially and not all of 3 million people lived in camps......and now they r living in there areas(after returning) and rehabilitation is underway to help them even compensate there loses of crops etc....

U terrorist supporting liar.

Escorting aid into the karem crossing, and then Hamas steals the aid and sells it back for profit.

U nazis barely allow AID..we have see n wat zoinist ashkenazi terrorists did last year.


This of course is unrelated to the thread mostly, but again it is a response to the claims that Pakistan's military policy is superior to Israel.
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It is coz we are fighting terrorists not OUR people....unlike u who dont even think palis are even humans...from ur grand rabbis statements to ur B.S of ur terrorist politicians.

Pakistan has conducted many OCL-like wars this year. So has the United States.

My question is why is Pakistani citizens so pre-occupied with the Palestinians when they live better than not only civilians living under the Taliban, but ordinary Pakistani citizens
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Again ur B.S.....wat do i think Pakistan looks like???
Moron our infra is better then ur beloved indian frnds......our children arent facing malnutician...like half population of children in india....we arent having 500 million livin under 2 $ per day.....take a look at our GDP till 2007......wont be surprised to see u shocked.
U can consult Riaz haq for more info...
Did our nukes bugg u or coz pain in ur pain side?in 1998 when u sent ur F-16s to strike our nuclear installation??????


Last I checked Israel used WP as a smokescreen to protect wounded soldiers when their extracting from high-intensity environments (i.e, crowded streets with hamas hiding in buildings, etc..)

Wat?u were bombing food program centers run by UN????
And see this





http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=280D0D2A81F63DFB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=vxB4gQSIyfw

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=280D0D2A81F63DFB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=vxB4gQSIyfw

this is not unique. It is a standard weapon used in urban warfare and Pakistan uses it all the time.

Yeah right.....who told you?swami shankar from india?the snake charming guru????
Again B.S


WP has a burn time of 15 minutes and explodes above the service. It is not illegal and no evidence has been provided that Israel used WP to harm civilians.

See above videos...
Dont understand why UN accuses israel of war crimes?????:hitwall::hitwall:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=280D0D2A81F63DFB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=vxB4gQSIyfw


It wasn't weapons grade-WP. As far as Palestinians "forced" out of their homes, I don't really know how many. If you're talking about those who fled in 1948...that's hardly persuasive.

Illegal settlements?





Over 10,000,000 fled when India was partitioned in Pakistan/India, of those 1,000,000 died.

SO???? more muslims died in tht???and tht was a partition muslim policemen,soldiers were unarmed?

Pakistan was the most backward area with only 1 jute mill, 1 texile mill and only 1 university while ur indian friends had the most industrilised area.....even 18 plus ordinance factories(just an example).

Not exactly fair to hold Israel's legitimacy hostage based on an event that happened 6 decades ago.

Looks like Obama is stupid for slaming israeli settlements tht happened 6 decades ago according to u???

DO U ACCEPT OTHER ATTROOCITIES I POINTED IN MY PREVIOUS POSTS???
LOOKS LIKE YES.....I GUESS?



PAK ARMY.

---------- Post added at 01:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 AM ----------

For comparison:

Operation Black Thunderstorm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,450 KIA by Pakistan

600KIA

Operation Rah-e-Nijat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1,800KIA

Battle of Bajaur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since March 31st over 700 have been killed.

In 14 days 700 have been killed!!!


As I said before, it is dubious to compare Pakistan to Israel.

Ever heard of dead terrorists?


There are more then 100000 PAK ARMY soldiers in tht area?
Even they took 2200 plus casualities?
And the figures ur giving is of dead talib fighters not civilian casualities.....all these areas were evacuated before operation...........in other words ur try to make dead talibs into civilians is falsified and wrong.

PA has a strong relationship with India and Pakistan. But of course, the relationship is more words than anything because they donate less than 2% of all humanitarian aid to the West Bank/Gaza.


So we shouldnt do or say anything?
We are suffering from economic crunch...ever heard of it???
our gdp crashed from average 8-9% to barely 5% since 2007-8??


Pakistan spends more funding LeT to attack Hindus in Kashmir (Mumbai for example) than on the Palestinians they supposedly love so much.


Only a one nut monkey will believe tht?
LET is already banned in Pakistan.......why would Pakistan support them???
Yes mahjority of Pakistan supports mujahedeen like yaseen malik,ilyas kashmiri, and huriat leader syed gillani etc....they have every right to deciede there future????as per UN....
Its the highest militarised zone in the world???why is it ??? if kashmiris want to live under indian occupation???
FREEDOM FOR ALL.......THEY ARE LIVING LIKE JEWS UNDER NAZIS.


Compare Israel's policies towards the Palestinians to Pakistan's punishment of civilians living under the Taliban. How many made homeless? 3 million? I remember when I was in Gaza I worked in a temp-hospital built a few kilometers from Sderot to attend to injured Palestinians!


ha' cheap ranting by a jewish terrorist........those people were displaced they were asked to evacuate coz of military operation against taliban>?????do u support taliban????looks like u do.
Govt. did everything in power to help them......from providing tents to basic nessecities of life........even helped them financially and not all of 3 million people lived in camps......and now they r living in there areas(after returning) and rehabilitation is underway to help them even compensate there loses of crops etc....

U terrorist supporting liar.

Escorting aid into the karem crossing, and then Hamas steals the aid and sells it back for profit.

U nazis barely allow AID..we have see n wat zoinist ashkenazi terrorists did last year.


This of course is unrelated to the thread mostly, but again it is a response to the claims that Pakistan's military policy is superior to Israel.
.
It is coz we are fighting terrorists not OUR people....unlike u who dont even think palis are even humans...from ur grand rabbis statements to ur B.S of ur terrorist politicians.

Pakistan has conducted many OCL-like wars this year. So has the United States.

My question is why is Pakistani citizens so pre-occupied with the Palestinians when they live better than not only civilians living under the Taliban, but ordinary Pakistani citizens
.

Again ur B.S.....wat do i think Pakistan looks like???
Moron our infra is better then ur beloved indian frnds......our children arent facing malnutician...like half population of children in india....we arent having 500 million livin under 2 $ per day.....take a look at our GDP till 2007......wont be surprised to see u shocked.
U can consult Riaz haq for more info...
Did our nukes bugg u or coz pain in ur pain side?in 1998 when u sent ur F-16s to strike our nuclear installation??????


Last I checked Israel used WP as a smokescreen to protect wounded soldiers when their extracting from high-intensity environments (i.e, crowded streets with hamas hiding in buildings, etc..)

Wat?u were bombing food program centers run by UN????
And see this





http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=280D0D2A81F63DFB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=vxB4gQSIyfw

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=280D0D2A81F63DFB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=vxB4gQSIyfw

this is not unique. It is a standard weapon used in urban warfare and Pakistan uses it all the time.

Yeah right.....who told you?swami shankar from india?the snake charming guru????
Again B.S


WP has a burn time of 15 minutes and explodes above the service. It is not illegal and no evidence has been provided that Israel used WP to harm civilians.

See above videos...
Dont understand why UN accuses israel of war crimes?????:hitwall::hitwall:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=280D0D2A81F63DFB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=vxB4gQSIyfw


It wasn't weapons grade-WP. As far as Palestinians "forced" out of their homes, I don't really know how many. If you're talking about those who fled in 1948...that's hardly persuasive.

Illegal settlements?





Over 10,000,000 fled when India was partitioned in Pakistan/India, of those 1,000,000 died.

SO???? more muslims died in tht???and tht was a partition muslim policemen,soldiers were unarmed?

Pakistan was the most backward area with only 1 jute mill, 1 texile mill and only 1 university while ur indian friends had the most industrilised area.....even 18 plus ordinance factories(just an example).

Not exactly fair to hold Israel's legitimacy hostage based on an event that happened 6 decades ago.

Looks like Obama is stupid for slaming israeli settlements tht happened 6 decades ago according to u???

DO U ACCEPT OTHER ATTROOCITIES I POINTED IN MY PREVIOUS POSTS???
LOOKS LIKE YES.....I GUESS?



PAK ARMY.
 
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I would like to respond but it is obvious I have hijacked the thread and made it about Israel/Pakistan.

I'm new here so I really don't want to get banned.

If an admin says I can respond I will, I have a lot to say...:cry:
 
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i am sure mod wil allow you say and defend your country
because we are pakistani(secular)
and we dnt kill innocents
 
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Ever heard of dead terrorists?


There are more then 100000 PAK ARMY soldiers in tht area?
Even they took 2200 plus casualities?
And the figures ur giving is of dead talib fighters not civilian casualities.....all these areas were evacuated before operation...........in other words ur try to make dead talibs into civilians is falsified and wrong.

Yes, I have. The problem with Pakistan's agenda is that the military bars the media from accessing the war zone. They don't even allow journalists to embed themselves in Pakistani units.

Why is Pakistan so afraid of the media? BBC has even shut down their offices and no longer issues news in Urdu because Pakistan is so paranoid.

If Pakistan isn't killing loads of civilians, why doesn't it allow the media to access the sites?

How can we verify the dead?

Israel and the USA provide explicit, meticulous and detailed casualty. All the dead, both Palestinian, Israeli, Lebanese, etc - have been named, age is provided, party, militant status, location, time of death, etc.

But in Pakistan, everyone is written off as a civilian.

According to testimony from civilians who are caught in the cross-fire, Pakistan isn't putting a lot of effort in avoiding civilian casualties.

It's hard when the Taliban deliberately exploits civilians to deter attack.

So we shouldnt do or say anything?
We are suffering from economic crunch...ever heard of it???
our gdp crashed from average 8-9% to barely 5% since 2007-8?

Then why doesn't Pakistan spend less time whining about Israel and more time helping the Palestinians?

maybe use some of the monies your country spends on funding terrorist groups in Kashmir, maybe?

Pakistan has an annual economy of 400,000,000,000+, I'm sure the leadership could afford to match or double UNRWA's budget.

the reality is Pakistan doesn't care about the Palestinians. It doesn't even care about its own citizens.

U nazis barely allow AID..we have see n wat zoinist ashkenazi terrorists did last year.

Israel shuffled in 30 million lb of aid 1 month after the conflict. Within 3 months Gaza's humanitarian conditions returned to pre-war levels.

And like I said, compare Gaza to any city in Pakistan.

there is more poverty in Egypt than in Gaza. In fact, many egyptians are illegal smuggled into gaza because of the better economy.

See above videos...
Dont understand why UN accuses israel of war crimes?????

Videos mean nothing. Propaganda is most easily-delivered through video.

The United Nations is run by the Muslim bloc. Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt control the human rights council.

United Nations (or united nazis) has become a support group of countries either obsessed with Israel or are looking to use Israel as a scapegoat to deflect their own problems.

This is why millions have been killed in Islamic-state sponsored genocides, and the UN has said nothing.

Whereas a Palestinian trips over a rock, or Jew builds a pizza hut in the West Bank, and the UNSC calls for a conference.

The UN wasn't designed to wage lawfare against small, unpopular nations.

It was decided to prevent war, genocide, etc...

And yet, the war-like genocidal nations are immune from attack because they have oil. And their third world allies are also immune.

Illegal settlements?

Uh? Virtually all of the land the "settlements" sit is either under-developed or purchased prior to 1948.

If you didn't know, Jews lived in the WB before 1948, until they were expelled by the Arabs.

Through the UN that Arab states have criminalized Israel's presence in the West Bank.

ironically, the geneva convention was written to prevent the forcibly expulsion of Jews ordered by hitler, and yet people cite the geneva convention to justify the expulsion of jews in the West Bank and Gaza.

Quite funny.
Golani listen, why do you still contradict what has been documented by the world's leading historians?
Everyone today knows that you came to colonize Palestine and establish a jewish state on its place, indigenous people or not.

Perhaps, but so what? The entire Muslim world is predicated on exploitation and colonization. Pakistan sits on the homes of millions of cleansed or dead hindus. Over 80,000,000 hindus killed by Muslim conquerers, some demanding 100,000 heads a day, in what is now India/Pakistan.

Europe, USA, Australia, New Zealand, Africa, Arab world...all founded on genocide, occupation, colonization.

The difference with Israel is that most of the land was purchased legally, and Zionists tried to negotiate a peaceful settlement but the Arabs wouldn't have it.

So, even if we assume the most extreme interpration, it is truly unfair and downright hypocritical to say israel is evil because of some event 6 decades ago.

Need I remind you over 900,000 Jews were expelled from their homes in the Arab world. Most of Israel's Jewish population today are not European but descedents of those expelled from Muslim lands.

So, I think we're even. :P

Well as an occupying power, I believe, that any deaths that is a result of occupation, whether it being people who are killed by the army or die on check points because they are not allowed to cross, or it being deaths that is the result of the closure policy and hence lack of medicine etc can be ascribed to Israel.

Wrong.

PLO has control over 94% of Palestinian areas.

Ramallah, Hebron, Nablus, etc...are all controlled 100% by the Palestinian leadership.

Gaza, of course, is run totally independent of Israel.

Check points exist because of terrorism. Between 1967-1980s no check points existed. Israel only built check points because of violent.

And guess what? Violence is down. It saves lives.

There are check points in Pakistan. Check points in kashmir. check points in iraq.

Lebanon, for example, surrounds their palestinian population with barred-wire fences.

they won't even let Palestinians work in Lebanon, unlike in Israel where over 150,000 work in settlements and mainland.

as far as unnatural deaths ago, more Palestinians have been killed in honor killings than Israeli bullets. 2/3 of all homicides are honor killings.

After you poll the Palestinian because, they rank crime, the economy, and corruption of their own leadership as priorities. Israel, to them, is irrelevant.

After all, it was Israel that eradicated malaria. Most of the universities in Gaza and the WB were built by Israel. Jordan wouldn't even let Palestinians leave their refugee camps. Israel built homes for the Palestinians, which was of course condemned by the UN and the Arab world.

God forbid we try to move the Palestinians out of poverty. I guess if there is a resolution to this conflict they lose their ultimate scapegoat...
 
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Israel and the USA provide explicit, meticulous and detailed casualty. All the dead, both Palestinian, Israeli, Lebanese, etc - have been named, age is provided, party, militant status, location, time of death, etc.


you have got to be kidding me, that is a complete lie, what a joke :disagree:
 
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Yes, I have. The problem with Pakistan's agenda is that the military bars the media from accessing the war zone. They don't even allow journalists to embed themselves in Pakistani units.

Why is Pakistan so afraid of the media? BBC has even shut down their offices and no longer issues news in Urdu because Pakistan is so paranoid.

If Pakistan isn't killing loads of civilians, why doesn't it allow the media to access the sites?

How can we verify the dead?

Israel and the USA provide explicit, meticulous and detailed casualty. All the dead, both Palestinian, Israeli, Lebanese, etc - have been named, age is provided, party, militant status, location, time of death, etc.

not true, you still deny that the majority of the casualties in your attack on Gaza were civilians, even though both the UN via the Goldstone rapport and B'Tselem's independent investigations show differently

But in Pakistan, everyone is written off as a civilian.

According to testimony from civilians who are caught in the cross-fire, Pakistan isn't putting a lot of effort in avoiding civilian casualties.

It's hard when the Taliban deliberately exploits civilians to deter attack.



Then why doesn't Pakistan spend less time whining about Israel and more time helping the Palestinians?

that's something between Pakistanis and Palestinians, we will work something out

maybe use some of the monies your country spends on funding terrorist groups in Kashmir, maybe?

Pakistan has an annual economy of 400,000,000,000+, I'm sure the leadership could afford to match or double UNRWA's budget.

the reality is Pakistan doesn't care about the Palestinians. It doesn't even care about its own citizens.



Israel shuffled in 30 million lb of aid 1 month after the conflict. Within 3 months Gaza's humanitarian conditions returned to pre-war levels.

haha, crazy so according to you the humanitarian situation in Gaza now is perfect

And like I said, compare Gaza to any city in Pakistan.

that doesn't relieve you of your responsibility in the war crimes there.. and last I checked no Pakistani city was occupied or under siege from a foreign nation


there is more poverty in Egypt than in Gaza. In fact, many egyptians are illegal smuggled into gaza because of the better economy.

dude, have your head checked plz, what kind of BS is this? there are many places where the economy and life quality is better than where you are know, why don't you go there?

Videos mean nothing. Propaganda is most easily-delivered through video.

That's why the IDF have their own account on youtube? thank you for the clarification btw, dead people are not propaganda

The United Nations is run by the Muslim bloc. Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt control the human rights council.

:rofl: that's why Israel is the only entity in the world that is above the law

United Nations (or united nazis) has become a support group of countries either obsessed with Israel or are looking to use Israel as a scapegoat to deflect their own problems.

nope, stop acting like a spoiled bully and behave, and the UN will leave you alone, continue occupation, violate UN charters and human rights and you will be criticized

This is why millions have been killed in Islamic-state sponsored genocides, and the UN has said nothing.

Whereas a Palestinian trips over a rock, or Jew builds a pizza hut in the West Bank, and the UNSC calls for a conference.

difference between a palestinian tripping on a rock or getting murdered, like the 14 year old boy yesterday, and building in occupied areas is illegal, you should know that

The UN wasn't designed to wage lawfare against small, unpopular nations.

It was decided to prevent war, genocide, etc...

and look how well it does that in case of the Israeli entity

And yet, the war-like genocidal nations are immune from attack because they have oil. And their third world allies are also immune.



Uh? Virtually all of the land the "settlements" sit is either under-developed or purchased prior to 1948.

what BS is that? what land? by 1947 jews only controlled 7% of what was then Palestine... plz re-read your history this is ridiculous

If you didn't know, Jews lived in the WB before 1948, until they were expelled by the Arabs.

dude you expelled 80% of the palestinian population, relax the couple of 100 or so we will allow to come back if they want to

Through the UN that Arab states have criminalized Israel's presence in the West Bank.

dude you are loosing it, INTERNATIONAL LAW criminalize it, read the 4th Geneva convention and come back


ironically, the geneva convention was written to prevent the forcibly expulsion of Jews ordered by hitler, and yet people cite the geneva convention to justify the expulsion of jews in the West Bank and Gaza.

Quite funny.

The geneva convention applies to EVERYONE why should Israel be above the law? are you special? because they are illegal settlers that's why, what about the 750.000 expelled Palestinians? I don't hear you cry about them

Perhaps, but so what? The entire Muslim world is predicated on exploitation and colonization. Pakistan sits on the homes of millions of cleansed or dead hindus. Over 80,000,000 hindus killed by Muslim conquerers, some demanding 100,000 heads a day, in what is now India/Pakistan.

Europe, USA, Australia, New Zealand, Africa, Arab world...all founded on genocide, occupation, colonization.

The difference with Israel is that most of the land was purchased legally, and Zionists tried to negotiate a peaceful settlement but the Arabs wouldn't have it.

Utter BS, by 1947 only 7% of historic Palestine was in jewish hands, there goes your dubious theory

So, even if we assume the most extreme interpration, it is truly unfair and downright hypocritical to say israel is evil because of some event 6 decades ago.

there is no expiration date for evilness, when you admit your wrongdoings we might talk about reconciliation even in a 1000 years the way you are now you will still be evil.. man the nazis taught you well

Need I remind you over 900,000 Jews were expelled from their homes in the Arab world. Most of Israel's Jewish population today are not European but descedents of those expelled from Muslim lands.

some 80-90% of all jews are ashkenazi, not oriental so you guys are a european people, about the expelled jews, well historians agree that the far majority left voluntarily to the new state of Israel, for those expelled go cry to their respective countries, palestinians cannot be held accountable for that, like they are not responsible for the hollowcaust

So, I think we're even. :P

we are so not even, believe me, all of your crimes are unpaid debt, do you think people are stupid and will forget or forgive? never forget never forgive, does that sound familiar?

Wrong.

PLO has control over 94% of Palestinian areas.

Ramallah, Hebron, Nablus, etc...are all controlled 100% by the Palestinian leadership.

plo has not control of anything, if you mean the PA they do not have real control on anything but bantustans and ghettos, Israeli occupation controls the real movement

Gaza, of course, is run totally independent of Israel.

Gaza is under siege or do we want to deny this also?

Check points exist because of terrorism. Between 1967-1980s no check points existed. Israel only built check points because of violent.

bullocks, Im not even going to comment that

And guess what? Violence is down. It saves lives.

violence is down? why do you still kidnap and kill Palestinians? for the calmness in WB thank Abbas and Salam Fayad, not yourself they have a tight control on people there and doing your dirty work

There are check points in Pakistan. Check points in kashmir. check points in iraq.

Lebanon, for example, surrounds their palestinian population with barred-wire fences.

they won't even let Palestinians work in Lebanon, unlike in Israel where over 150,000 work in settlements and mainland.

we are not discussing lebanon

as far as unnatural deaths ago, more Palestinians have been killed in honor killings than Israeli bullets. 2/3 of all homicides are honor killings.

BS you have caused 300.000 unnatural deaths and you wonder why people hate you

After you poll the Palestinian because, they rank crime, the economy, and corruption of their own leadership as priorities. Israel, to them, is irrelevant.

After all, it was Israel that eradicated malaria. Most of the universities in Gaza and the WB were built by Israel. Jordan wouldn't even let Palestinians leave their refugee camps. Israel built homes for the Palestinians, which was of course condemned by the UN and the Arab world.


you are right we should thank you, you are a good hearted occupying state, thank you

God forbid we try to move the Palestinians out of poverty. I guess if there is a resolution to this conflict they lose their ultimate scapegoat...

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