My Motherland Pakistan

[Ray_of_Hope]

its long time, I was in Islamabad. It will be surprise, if what you say is correct.

Yep.Do visit islamabad and you will get a nice pleasant surprice

 

[patman]

waste management is a huge problem in even developed countries where there cities are over populated , we should learn from Japanese culture by integrating civic responsibility into our culture.

that's just wishful thinking though

 

[ABCharlie]

Urban centers are ignored because the political power still lies in rural centers. After the upcoming census, this will change because urban centers have boomed in size exponentially in past 20 years. Then we can expect policies geared towards urban planning.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Hi,

This is my 4th visit to my motherland in the last 34 years---and it has been the most disappointing visit so far---.

I have visited the cities like Islamabad---Lahore---Multan---I traveled by road.

I was shocked to see the amount of filth and trash filling the streets and side walks of the cities---. The smell of rot and decaying filth is present in all these cities---lesser in Islamabad----less in Lahore but more in Multan---.

The cities are growing without any any personality and character---. The houses in Islamabad are outrageously large---in Lahore close clustered and in Multan one on top of the other---with no finesse---.

Multan was and is the filthiest of all these three cities---disgustingly filthy---even good areas are trash heaps---.

Actually---there are no good areas left in multan---. Totally out of control and rampant construction---with no regard to the building codes---and no one to enforce them either---.

It truly looked like a nation in chaos---looked like people with no direction---a ship without a rudder---total lawlessness on the roads.

As usual---doctors on strikes and poor suffering---.

Never have I observed the plight of the poor in such a distinguishing and open manner in my prior visits as I did now---.

The hope that there was in 2007 for the poor---is no more to be seen anywhere. It is all about greed---theft and plunder now---.

Well I guess you have to figure out the core problem first before thinking about solutions.

In the US the streets (at least where I am) are relatively clean not because the government drives by every night with cleaning machines (which they don't) but because of years of drilling into people's stupid heads that throwing stuff on the ground is a no-no.

So if that didn't happen even driving machines every night would not solve everything effectively.

Yes, we do have trash pickup every week..and the wind sometimes blows stuff out of the barrels. But the government doesn't run around picking up those pieces..the neighbors (who have the mindset drilled into them) are the one's who do it.

You can throw lots of money at the government but it won't solve anything without a mindset change.

 

[MastanKhan]

Well I guess you have to figure out the core problem first before thinking about solutions.

In the US the streets (at least where I am) are relatively clean not because the government drives by every night with cleaning machines (which they don't) but because of years of drilling into people's stupid heads that throwing stuff on the ground is a no-no.

So if that didn't happen even driving machines every night would not solve everything effectively.

Yes, we do have trash pickup every week..and the wind sometimes blows stuff out of the barrels. But the government doesn't run around picking up those pieces..the neighbors (who have the mindset drilled into them) are the one's who do it.

You can throw lots of money at the government but it solve anything without a mindset change.

Hi,

The issue is trash pickup related---management problems.

The issue is not enforcing the city codes on construction and upkeep---.

 

[Kabira]

I have visited the cities like Islamabad---Lahore---Multan---I traveled by road.

I was shocked to see the amount of filth and trash filling the streets and side walks of the cities---. The smell of rot and decaying filth is present in all these cities---lesser in Islamabad----less in Lahore but more in Multan---.

Lahore waste management company is doing good job, first of its kind in Pakistan. In recent years they have started working in Multan as well but it may take some more years to expand.

http://mwmc.com.pk/

 

[BATMAN]

Lahore waste management company is doing good job, first of its kind in Pakistan. In recent years they have started working in Multan as well but it may take some more years to expand.

http://mwmc.com.pk/

Need cameras in city, those who throw trash must be penalized.

 

[livingdead]

Well I guess you have to figure out the core problem first before thinking about solutions.

In the US the streets (at least where I am) are relatively clean not because the government drives by every night with cleaning machines (which they don't) but because of years of drilling into people's stupid heads that throwing stuff on the ground is a no-no.

So if that didn't happen even driving machines every night would not solve everything effectively.

Yes, we do have trash pickup every week..and the wind sometimes blows stuff out of the barrels. But the government doesn't run around picking up those pieces..the neighbors (who have the mindset drilled into them) are the one's who do it.

You can throw lots of money at the government but it solve anything without a mindset change.

both are problems feeding each other.. you cant change mindset but if you invest in waste disposal and make it easy for people not to litter(bins at regular interval) it will slowly decrease, and the next generation will be used to clean space.
I am guilty of this behavior myself, when in India I will throw stuff because it all full of garbage anyway... my small contribution wont change much, plus where will I keep this banana peel? here in UK I have to walk only a few mins to get to the bin.. and its already clean, and I will feel guilty if I make it dirty.

 

[Kabira]

today news

‘Solid Waste Management Roadmap’ made to improve cleanliness system

The maiden meeting to review the Solid Waste Management Roadmap held under Chief Minister Punjab Muhammad Shahbaz Sharif, here Frieday.

Addressing the meeting, the Chief Minister said the Solid Waste Management Roadmap has been made to improve cleanliness system in the big cities and progress on this roadmap will also be reviewed like roadmap on health, education and potable water.

He said that cleanliness system will be improved at any cost in seven big cities by June 2017 and capacity of the solid waste management companies will be enhanced in these cities. He said conventional methods will not work and we have to work with innovation and hard work for improvement in the solid waste companies.

He said to run these companies according to the modern lines new human resources will be recruited on merit. He directed that the reconstitution of boards of solid waste management companies at the earliest. He said professional persons should be included in the boards of the solid waste management companies and landfill sites should be earmarked in all districts to properly dump solid waste and the survey in this regard should be completed at the earliest.

http://pakobserver.net/solid-waste-management-roadmap-made-to-improve-cleanliness-system/

 

[B@tt!eDoom]

Again they may be better than the past but certainly not better than places like Islamabad, So i was replying in that context.. Actually Bangalore has got worse, It used to be such a pleasant place..

The problem with most Indians here is they have this assumption that Pakistan is worse off than India in every aspect, Well as a person that have traveled to both countries i can tell you some of it are not

No that's a false assumption..Bangalore is pretty clean overall.Bangalore,Pune,Hyderabad,Mysore are among cleanest cities.You can say about other cities but above cities are pretty clean..I don't know if you had ever visited India or just throwing out of assumption...!.Few places there often feels like you are in some foreign streets....

 

[MultaniGuy]

Islamabad is quite clean in my opinion

 

[livingdead]

No that's a false assumption..Bangalore is pretty clean overall.Bangalore,Pune,Hyderabad,Mysore are among cleanest cities.You can say about other cities but above cities are pretty clean..I don't know if you had ever visited India or just throwing out of assumption...!.Few places there often feels like you are in some foreign streets....

bangalore has got worse.. or may be my sense of cleanliness has improved.... its still clean by Indian standard though.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

both are problems feeding each other.. you cant change mindset but if you invest in waste disposal and make it easy for people not to litter(bins at regular interval) it will slowly decrease, and the next generation will be used to clean space.
I am guilty of this behavior myself, when in India I will throw stuff because it all full of garbage anyway... my small contribution wont change much, plus where will I keep this banana peel? here in UK I have to walk only a few mins to get to the bin.. and its already clean, and I will feel guilty if I make it dirty.

That strategy may work well in densely populated areas...but what about the other 90%+ of areas in most countries? City dwellers aren't the only people with trash problems.

 

[B@tt!eDoom]

bangalore has got worse.. or may be my sense of cleanliness has improved.... its still clean by Indian standard though.

Few places are dirty I agree but overall it's pretty clean & corporate areas are taken care of on daily basis..Also factory areas are very clean..
But when I visit Kolkata it's same ugly as it was 10 years ago..It suffocates mainly when you are around Howrah or Sealdah areas.Can say this city has gone to boinker..People there chose to live like that..

 

[livingdead]

Few places are dirty I agree but overall it's pretty clean & corporate areas are taken care of on daily basis..Also factory areas are very clean..
But when I visit Kolkata it's same ugly as it was 10 years ago..It suffocates mainly when you are around Howrah or Sealdah areas.Can say this city has gone to boinker..People there chose to live like that..

you mean private property or public place? public places are not clean in bangalore and it has become worse due to huge population and construction boom.. but bangalore and pune both are clean compared to other cities in India.
dude.. every city is cleaner than kolkata... its a city of pain and misery... the whole city is depressing to look at... except a few places here and there.