‘Must get over with India obsession and admit failures’

[Vinod2070]

Are you dumb or something? Pakistan has 5000+ years old Indus Valley Civilization & Gandhara Civilization & also we Pakistanis are proud of our identity, looks like indian media has done deep effects on your brain, sorry to say.

It was rejected all as Jahiliyah. You thought the barbaric primitive nomads saved you from darkness.

Check out the two nation theory, too late to quote Dharmic pre Islamic heritage now.

 

[American Pakistani]

It was rejected all as Jahiliyah. You thought the barbaric primitive nomads saved you from darkness.

Check out the two nation theory, too late to quote Dharmic pre Islamic heritage now.

We came towards new light that doesn't mean we dumped or rejected our history of Indus Valley Civilization & Gandhara Civilization nor is it auto changed. IVC & GC is still Pakistans history & we are proud of it, now if you want further derailment of thread so go on, i will reply & report your posts too.

 

[karan.1970]

we are a tolerant nation, we tolerate other's view point

BRF is not India and Defence.pk is not Pakistan

 

[American Pakistani]

identity crisis

Sorry tohear about your loss.

 

[Ticker]

It was rejected all as Jahiliyah. You thought the barbaric primitive nomads saved you from darkness.

Check out the two nation theory, too late to quote Dharmic pre Islamic heritage now.

Whats wrong with two nation theory. It still holds good. How can you deny it.

We were and are two different people. That's what the two nations theory is all about.

Whats your problem with it.

 

[karan.1970]

Obsession?


When the Bhartis copied Dil Dil Pakistan, I knew who was obsessed with whom.

You guys copied "hum laaye hain Toofan se Kishti Nikal Ke" way back in 1954

And to top it all, you featured Quaid Jinnah in a song copied from India.. Talk about irony

 

[American Pakistani]

Whats wrong with two nation theory. It still holds good. How can you deny it.

We were and are two different people. That's what the two nations theory is all about.

Whats your problem with it.

Two Nation Theory is 101% correct, here is the proof, Pakistans religion, history, culture, language, tradition cannot be amalgamated with india's & are totally different.

 

[karan.1970]

Whats wrong with two nation theory. It still holds good. How can you deny it.

We were and are two different people. That's what the two nations theory is all about.

Whats your problem with it.

Its more like 3 nation theory now.. Looks like Pakistanis of 1947 are also 2 different people now

 

[Ticker]

Yup....see how much money we have.....and people call us poor....

Sir, you need to elaborate who and how many are we in India, who have a lot of such money.

 

[Vinod2070]

Whats wrong with two nation theory. It still holds good. How can you deny it.

We were and are two different people. That's what the two nations theory is all about.

Whats your problem with it.

Well no problem. A second generation convert makes the following comments. It can only be natural!

The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, litterateurs. They neither intermarry nor interdine together and, indeed, they belong to two different civilizations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspect on life and of life are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, different heroes, and different episodes. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other and, likewise, their victories and defeats overlap. To yoke together two such nations under a single state, one as a numerical minority and the other as a majority, must lead to growing discontent and final destruction of any fabric that may be so built for the government of such a state.

See, not just change of faith but change of history, identity and heroes as well.

The most natural change!

At the same time, a desire of some to cling to the pre Islamic past!

In fact, now you have nothing. Neither here nor there.

 

[Secur]

It was rejected all as Jahiliyah. You thought the barbaric primitive nomads saved you from darkness.

Check out the two nation theory, too late to quote Dharmic pre Islamic heritage now.

Not really ... And there will be no need to malign the great religion of Islam ... They were by no means primitive barbaric methods , you follower of oldest known religion should know that ...

People converted because they saw truth , not by sword ... If it was forceful conversion , then you wouldn't have been named " Vinod " today ... Do you know about the Sufis who spread the message of Islam in the subcontinent and whom are revered by followers of both religions ?

 

[Jade]

For army it is important to keep its attention on India , because it has to keep threats to the country in mind and make decisions accordingly ... This isn't called obsession ... Pakistan doesn't have any other arch enemy except India so this statement makes perfect sense ... Seriously , you are 5x larger than us and yet every single foreign policy and military purchase of yours is Pakistan-centric , else what is " Two Front war " and " Cold Start " ... Do not deny it because only recently have you started shifting your attention to China ...

You want to understand obsession ? Read what your future favorite PM candidate Modi said on a business trip in China " Pakistan is using you " ! International troller !

Indians member please continue to post videos from Pakistani media and keep proving my point , thank you !

First, India is not your enemy, but your neighbour. Moreover, we have no first use of nukes meaning we will react only if other country use its nukes. So there is no excuse on the part of Pak to India centric or have a first nuke policy. Second, the problem is obsession cannot be selective. This obsession of your Army has percolated into every aspects of Pak psyche. From you culture to your sports to your foreign policies to national politics.

As regarding our defence, India wants to be a regional power and most of our defence spending is directed towards that.

 

[American Pakistani]

Its more like 3 nation theory now.. Looks like Pakistanis of 1947 are also 2 different people now

Two Nation theory came into being in late 30's, i beleive in 1940 & according to 1940 plan Bangladesh was not supposed to be part of original Pakistan, the top leaders like Quaid e Azam, Allama Iqbal etc had a vision of Pakistan of Punjab, Afghania(NWFP, KPK, FATA), Kashmir, Sindh & BalochisTAN. So 1971 story doesn't effect.

 

[Secur]

Its more like 3 nation theory now.. Looks like Pakistanis of 1947 are also 2 different people now

Why , has Dhaka acceded to India yet ? ... Then how has it failed , they still view themselves as a separate nation !

 

[karan.1970]

Why , has Dhaka acceded to India yet ? ... Then how has it failed , they still view themselves as a separate nation !

But it also shows that even Muslims of the subcontinent cant live together.. Hence the 2 nation theory based on religion is a fail..

Two Nation theory came into being in late 30's, i beleive in 1940 & according to 1940 plan Bangladesh was not supposed to be part of original Pakistan, the top leaders like Quaid e Azam, Allama Iqbal etc had a vision of Pakistan of Punjab, Afghania(NWFP, KPK, FATA), Kashmir, Sindh & BalochisTAN. So 1971 story doesn't effect.

That's a lame cop out if I ever saw one..