Muslims safer in India than anywhere else in world: Yogi Adityanath

[Jaanbaz]

The US is the safest place in the world for any and all minorities.

USA and UK are the safest countries for Muslims. When is the last time 2000 Muslims were killed in any of these countries? Every other year there are religious riots happening in India.

 

[Razia Sultana]

USA and UK are the safest countries for Muslims. When is the last time 2000 Muslims were killed in any of these countries? Every other year there are religious riots happening in India.

112 people have been killed in sectarian violence in Pakistan in the months of Jan-Feb 2015. More than 4000 have been killed since the yr 2000. Almost 60,000 people have been killed, almost all muslims, in last 12 years due to terrorism in Pakistan. (source: SATP). I am sure these numbers are way too higher than the victims in India despite India being 6-7 times bigger and having much more complex society.

 

[jamahir]

Your type of communism is like China wedding Saudi Arabia meaning chinese political system minus atheism plus Islamic shariah. Thats what you give an impression from your writing. Its very easy to read between the lines.

wrong... all this while i have been speaking of post-religion communist scientific humanity... for example, this from october last year ( The Worldwide Government | Page 3 ).

sincerely, if you had to give a muslim reference you could have at least seen my user-name.

and equal status is given to our Quaumi Tarana Sare Jahan Se Achha which is written in Urdu.

and written by iqbal who provoked with socialist ideas... why are those ideas of his not part of indian schools and on the tongues of villagers in india??

The people who can sing bollywood songs should not have any problem singing our national songs.

see?? yet again you speak words of the right-wing.

The Lion Capital, the national emblem, is taken from a Buddhist sculpture and also the blue wheel of our national flag is taken from the same buddhist sculpture at Sarnath.

buddhism came about as reaction to the prevalent culture of india... sadly, much of the prevalent culture now is same as then... economic oppression, cultural oppression, turning modern components ( like schools/colleges ) into variation of older oppressions etc... no, despite the "national emblem" and the "blue wheel", the indian establishment does not really acknowlege buddhism.

 

[Diggy]

Your type of communism is like China wedding Saudi Arabia meaning chinese political system minus atheism plus Islamic shariah. Thats what you give an impression from your writing. Its very easy to read between the lines.

200% correct , spot on

 

[Razia Sultana]

wrong... all this while i have been speaking of post-religion communist scientific humanity... for example, this from october last year ( The Worldwide Government | Page 3 ).

Every dictator does some stunt to show to the world his legitimacy. No dictator ever loses a refrendum. Why didn't Col Gaddafi implement his jamahiriya in his own country? There are many such utopian thoughts all claim their system to be the best, most perfect.

 

[jamahir]

Why didn't Col Gaddafi implement his jamahiriya in his own country?

 

[Razia Sultana]

wrong... all this while i have been speaking of post-religion communist scientific humanity... for example, this from october last year ( The Worldwide Government | Page 3 ).

sincerely, if you had to give a muslim reference you could have at least seen my user-name.



and written by iqbal who provoked with socialist ideas... why are those ideas of his not part of indian schools and on the tongues of villagers in india??



see?? yet again you speak words of the right-wing.



buddhism came about as reaction to the prevalent culture of india... sadly, much of the prevalent culture now is same as then... economic oppression, cultural oppression, turning modern components ( like schools/colleges ) into variation of older oppressions etc... no, despite the "national emblem" and the "blue wheel", the indian establishment does not really acknowlege buddhism.

I respect your idealism when you talk of humanity and world government. But when you have so high ideals and you are unable to accept the words like Punjab-Sindh-Gujarat-Maratha in our national anthem because you hate some particular communities represented by those words or because you perceive these words to clash with your religion, then all the high talks of post religion communist world order sounds like a hogwash. Thats why I say that its very easy to read between your lines. But nonetheless I appreciate your ideals and hope one day your ideals will be able to influence your inner thoughts.

 

[jamahir]

But nonetheless I appreciate your ideals and hope one day your ideals will be able to influence your inner thoughts.

that is such a patronizing statement.

because you hate some particular communities represented by those words

really??

or because you perceive these words to clash with your religion

so you are saying i accept interest-upon-loans, "honor killing", dowry, worship of money goddess, touching feet of elders even though those "elders" might be criminals or utter fools...

 

[Razia Sultana]

that is such a patronizing statement.

really??

so you are saying i accept interest-upon-loans, "honor killing", dowry, worship of money goddess, touching feet of elders even though those "elders" might be criminals or utter fools...

So in your world government there will only be Islamic Banking, worshipping gods (as hindus do) will be banned and criminals will not be allowed to be greeted by anyone.

 

[Jaanbaz]

112 people have been killed in sectarian violence in Pakistan in the months of Jan-Feb 2015. More than 4000 have been killed since the yr 2000. Almost 60,000 people have been killed, almost all muslims, in last 12 years due to terrorism in Pakistan. (source: SATP). I am sure these numbers are way too higher than the victims in India despite India being 6-7 times bigger and having much more complex society.

Where did I mention Pakistan? I was saying USA and UK are the safest countries not just for Muslims but for everyone. India ranks at the bottom when compared to USA or the UK.

 

[jamahir]

So in your world government there will only be Islamic Banking,

money system will be abolished... i have said many times that money is cause of half of the oppressions in the world, especially in south asia.

worshipping gods (as hindus do) will be banned

presently too, one may believe in god but not be religious, yes?? it is only mysticism ( prayer, mythology, hope in divinity and ritualism ) that will be abolished... what can continue is choice of belief or not in god ( note the singular ).

this will bring in true spirituality, true harmony with the wider ecology.

and criminals will not be allowed to be greeted by anyone.

would you greet mukesh, the torturer of amaanat... or maneka gandhi ( responsible for dogs increasing in india )... or some parent who has just "honor killed"... or some bank manager responsible for 10 suicides... or the principal of some school/college pressurizing his/her students to get high exam marks so as to present his/her school/college among the "top ranking educational institutes"...

 

[Razia Sultana]

Where did I mention Pakistan? I was saying USA and UK are the safest countries not just for Muslims but for everyone. India ranks at the bottom when compared to USA or the UK.

I just added your own country when you were making comparisons. Do you know the rate of homicide in the USA? 4.7 people per 100,000 are murdered. 27 women per 100,000 are raped. 387 people per 100,000 suffer from some violent crime in the USA. You decide for yourself how safe you are. Here is the statistics.

United States of America
Crime rates (2011 / 2013)
Crime type Rate*
Homicide: 4.7 / 4.7
Forcible rape: 27.0 / 26.9
Robbery: 113.9 / 112.9
Aggravated assault: 241.5 / 242.3
Total Violent crime: 387.1 / 386.9
Burglary: 701.3 / 670.2
Larceny-theft: 1,974.1 / 1,959.3
Motor vehicle theft: 230.0 / 229.7
Total Property crime: 2,905.4 / 2,859.2
Notes
* Number of reported crimes per 100,000 population.
Population of the U.S. reported as 313,914,040 as of July 1, 2012.
Source: Crime in the United States by Volume and Rate per 100,000 Inhabitants, 1993–2012 (Table 1)
Crime in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Jaanbaz]

I just added your own country when you were making comparisons. Do you know the rate of homicide in the USA? 4.7 people per 100,000 are murdered. 27 women per 100,000 are raped. 387 people per 100,000 suffer from some violent crime in the USA. You decide for yourself how safe you are. Here is the statistics.

United States of America
Crime rates (2011 / 2013)
Crime type Rate*
Homicide: 4.7 / 4.7
Forcible rape: 27.0 / 26.9
Robbery: 113.9 / 112.9
Aggravated assault: 241.5 / 242.3
Total Violent crime: 387.1 / 386.9
Burglary: 701.3 / 670.2
Larceny-theft: 1,974.1 / 1,959.3
Motor vehicle theft: 230.0 / 229.7
Total Property crime: 2,905.4 / 2,859.2
Notes
* Number of reported crimes per 100,000 population.
Population of the U.S. reported as 313,914,040 as of July 1, 2012.
Source: Crime in the United States by Volume and Rate per 100,000 Inhabitants, 1993–2012 (Table 1)
Crime in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Muslims are safer in USA and UK. You can keep posting unrelated data to support your country, but this won't change the reality.

 

[Razia Sultana]

money system will be abolished... i have said many times that money is cause of half of the oppressions in the world, especially in south asia.

So we go back to barter system.

presently too, one may believe in god but not be religious, yes?? it is only mysticism ( prayer, mythology, hope in divinity and ritualism ) that will be abolished... what can continue is choice of belief or not in god ( note the singular ).

this will bring in true spirituality, true harmony with the wider ecology.

You will allow God or No God but not many God. Why? Hindus believe in 33 crore deities.... so your world govt. will jail them?

would you greet mukesh, the torturer of amaanat... or maneka gandhi ( responsible for dogs increasing in india )... or some parent who has just "honor killed"... or some bank manager responsible for 10 suicides... or the principal of some school/college pressurizing his/her students to get high exam marks so as to present his/her school/college among the "top ranking educational institutes"...

If any one greets me with Assalamalaykum I will reply back with Wa-alaykumassalam. Whosoever is he or she.

Muslims are safer in USA and UK. You can keep posting unrelated data to support your country, but this won't change the reality.

In your earlier comment at #235 you mentioned USA to be safest for muslims and everyone so i gave the crime data. Now you say muslims are safer. Well, I can only provide facts and data about the reality but I can not change your belief. But the facts and data prove that as far as violent crimes are concerned India is safer than the USA and Pakistan.

 

[Jobless Jack]

ever since bjp has come to power everyone in india has become super religious.

regarding safety


every soul shall taste death whether they are safe or not.

i am satisfied as long as i die with la ilaha illalah on my lips.

regardless of where and how i end .


on topic i think india is about as safe as any other country in south asia.for muslims.