Muslims 'outraged' by billboard that insults prophet Mohammed USA TODAY NETWORK

[A.P. Richelieu]

Yep.

shouldn't be banned unless I do something and push it (which I'd rather not)

your fear is telling though, my POV has you wetting/soiling your undies... must be doing something right.


Fair enough, I'm not in the sangh though.

I guess @waz is out to get You

 

[T-72M1]

I guess @waz is out to get You

got in a shit slinging match the other day lol

and brexiter Waz is only a Major, got into it with the bigly generals who run this site.

 

[pak-marine]

They made them to get a reaction by giving them a reaction we are playing in their hands

Better off answering or debating this narrative!! what good were Europeans in those times or any other religion .. everyone looted , killed and plundered masses

 

[Shah Khalid]

An anti-Muslim billboard disparaging the prophet Mohammed that can be seen from an Indiana highway on the east side of Indianapolis is drawing concern from local Muslims.

Now, Islamic leaders in Indianapolis are challenging those responsible for what they say are offensive and untrue statements to stand by their words, shed their anonymity and explain their motivations.

"It is a horrible billboard. I'm outraged by it, but saddened at the same time ... and I would like to know who is behind it," said Rima Shahid, executive director of the Muslim Alliance of Indiana. "It seems very cowardly to me. If you have some kind of stance, you should want to stand up next to your statement. I didn't think there was any room for hate in our city. This billboard tells me otherwise.

"This kind of rhetoric just furthers division in our state and makes a neighbor question a neighbor, just like I am today."

Shahid said the billboard, which she saw on southbound Interstate 465, was brought to her attention Friday by an anonymous tipster.
The all black billboard has a headline of "The Perfect Man." Underneath are six bullet points to describe that man. These points include "married a 6-year-old," "slave owner & dealer" and "13 wives, 11 at one time."

At the bottom of the billboard in yellow sits the words "Educate Truthophobes." A search of Truthophobes online leads to multiple anti-Muslim groups, specifically an Australian group with similar messaging.

U.S. Rep. Andre Carson, D-Indianapolis, said he believes the billboard is untrue and that the billboard's author takes Islamic text and history out of context "just like al-Qaeda, ISIS and the Klan do to religious texts to justify their bigotry."

Faryal Khatri, a spokeswoman for the Indianapolis-based Islamic Society of North America, said not only is the billboard not true, it is hurtful to her as a practicing Muslim.

To Khatri, the most disappointing aspect of the sign is that it could incite hate crimes toward Muslims or people perceived to be Muslim.

Since 2015, anti-Muslim hate crimes have increased by 78% in the United States, according to researchers at California State University.


Last month, a 35-year-old white supremacist is accused of fatally stabbing two men and injured another who were defending two girls — one of whom was wearing a hijab — on a light rail train in Portland, Ore. In court, the suspected attacker, Jeremy Joseph Christian, called the act "patriotism."

Carson said he is disappointed that people have decided to use their free speech protections as a platform "to spread hateful, vile things that are divisive to people."

"I think there's a way to debate and be socratic without being disrespectful or undermining people and causing a sense of isolation."

Carson called on people in the faith community to "come together and say this is unacceptable," especially in light of an upcoming "March Against Sharia," that is scheduled to occur in 28 American cities — including Chicago, Indianapolis, New York and San Bernardino, Calif., this week.


The event is organized by a group called ACT for America, a self-described grassroots national security organization.

"Sharia is incompatible (sic) with our Constitution and with American values. We stand against female genital mutilations and child marriages," state the details of the event. A representative from ACT was not available for comment.

The billboard comes at a time when there is increased scrutiny of Muslims and Islam.

In December 2015, on the campaign trail, then-presidential candidate Donald Trump called for a "total and complete ban" on Muslims entering the U.S., to prevent terrorists from entering the country.

Carson calls it "fear-mongering."

There is no organization claiming responsibility for the billboard. Shahid said the billboard also doesn't bear any company name, indicating that it is privately owned.

"It's just a group of cowards who are not even ready to put their name behind it," Shahid said as she expressed the pain she felt to see this billboard in the midst of Ramadan.

"It is very hard ... and I would like to find the people who are behind this and talk to the them about who came up with these, and it seems appropriate to use this term, alternative facts.

"Muslims represent about 3% of our state's population. The fact is that most people have never met a Muslim, and there are so many misconceptions and so many divisions, and this kind of hate furthers those divisions."

Muslims 'outraged' by billboard that insults prophet Mohammed

1.Americans So Conveniently Forget That Their Founding Fathers Gorge Washington and Thomas Jefferson Owned Hundreds Of Slaves.
2.Marrying 13 Women Legally and Openly(As Was The Norm At The Time) Is Far Better Than Having An Illicit Affair With 10+ Women At The Same Time

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19374216/...-tells-how-much-sex-were-having/#.WbAp4LKg_IU

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/se...sexual-partners-in-lifetime-women-have-4.html

3.The Tradition Which Mentions The Massacre Of Jews Is Known To Be Unauthentic(Maq'tooh or Broken Chain).Westerners Should Talk About Holocaust Pogroms Inquisition and Multiple Atrocities Committed Against Jews In Medieval Europe Who The Had To Take Refuge In Ottoman Empire

4.Columbus,Spaniards and European Settlers Did To The Native Americans Is A Sorry Chapter In Human History.How They Wiped Out Their Civilization,Culture and Religion Looted Them Of Their Gold And Committed Genocide.Before Heaping Dirt On Our Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) They Should Not Forgat What A Fragile Glass House They Are Living In

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

So it's 6 years old now? Wasn't it 9 just last week?

There are a few types of Hadiths: Strong, Acceptable, Weak, Fake

And while we're at the subject of referencing your sources, what source does this organization or any other have?

There is only 1 hadith into this matter. That too on shaky ground due to the health of the person giving the recollection. Making it a Weak Hadith.

Numbers are fragile thing.

Nine. Six.

Nineteen. Sixteen.

Easy for an old person with speaking and hearing problems to confuse.

Even then, lets go further, when the older sister, Asma, of Aisha RA is herself 10 years older than Aisha RA. Asma was 28 y/o on the 1st of Hijra. (Strong hadith)

When even Aisha RA herself states, she remembers the emigration to Ethiopia, which happened around (I'm guessing here) 6 or 7 years since the Prophet PBUH claimed prophethood. (Strong Hadith)

Aisha RA was involved, support, in the Holy Battles of Badr and Uhud. Where noone under the age of 15 was allowed to participate in. Someone else do the math here. (Strong Hadith).

There is a propaganda war. As with any other hate filled group. They thrive on fear and the spread of it. Tell a lie enough, it'll become the truth. But only to those who can't see beyond it.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I think the people who live outside the US doing the "white blah blah blah" stuff are jumping to conclusions due to being simply being completely ignorant of what goes on on billboards. Islam isnt the only one targeted. You name it and somebody has done a billboard against it.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Of course, Freedom of Speech is a basic human right.

@T-72M1
Slander isn't protected under freedom of speech. Neither is intentionally lying to stir up discrimination and harassment a human right.

The definition of slander

"the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image."


libel
1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation.

Stop pretending this is protected under the law and freedoms of the United States. It clearly isn't.

 

[Gurjeet Walia]

LOL

 

[T-72M1]

@T-72M1
Slander isn't protected under freedom of speech. Neither is intentionally lying to stir up discrimination and harassment a human right.

The definition of slander

"the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image."


libel
1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation.

Stop pretending this is protected under the law and freedoms of the United States. It clearly isn't.

I'm not a constitutional expert in the workings of your laws.

I am a free speech absolutist though, and have lived and worked in the US in the past so I know a little bit about "freedom" too

keep your feking arab control system crap the hell out of there, and send Linda sarsour to guantanamo. #MAGA ok ?

 

[bsruzm]

I think the people who live outside the US doing the "white blah blah blah" stuff are jumping to conclusions due to being simply being completely ignorant of what goes on on billboards. Islam isnt the only one targeted. You name it and somebody has done a billboard against it.

Nice try but I don't find what you have posted fabricated, insulting or aggressively attacking unlike the one I have posted. What I posted is directly an insult with an aggressive tone and with lot's of fabricated claims. I don't get triggered by people telling me that Islam is a myth.

 

[Solomon2]

Nice try but I don't find what you have posted anything fake or insulting unlike the one I have posted. What I posted is directly an insult with lot's of fabricated claims.

What are the "fabricated claims", exactly?

 

[Basel]

Nope it isn't truth. Keep your Islamophobic BS to yourself.

Report him so he can be banned.

Being offended is not a crime in US. Those offended by this billboard can put one of their own up.

Then why West don't allow freedom of speech against Holocaust and jews???

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

keep your feking arab control system crap the hell out of there, and send Linda sarsour to guantanamo. #MAGA ok ?

*freaking
*Arab


Says the person living in India, don't your countrymen come in hordes to Arab countries? So much for our "system". I also don't understand what you mean by "Arab system". Are we talking about 7th century "Arab system" or 10th century "Arab system" or 21st century "Arab system"?

and send Linda sarsour to guantanamo.

@waz can you deal with this blatant flame-war baiting.

What are the "fabricated claims", exactly?

Pretty much everything.

 

[Solomon2]

Pretty much everything.

If you can't list a specific fabrication that implies the offending statements are true and truth is a complete defense against a charge of defamation, regardless of how much the allegedly injured party is offended.

 

[T-72M1]

*freaking
*Arab


Says the person living in India, don't your countrymen come in hordes to Arab countries? So much for our "system". I also don't understand what you mean by "Arab system". Are we talking about 7th century "Arab system" or 10th century "Arab system" or 21st century "Arab system"?

oh man, let this not devolve into one of those please.

I like this forum for the very reason that it allows for an exchange of ideas between people who think differently, this murrican section in particular, the others are wastelands of trollyness.. or something.