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So many Muslim of different ethnics in XingJiang, what's special of Uyghers.
They were the first group to arrive in Pakistan and with strong links on both sides they can easily become the biggest beneficiaries of cpec :-)

You are correct tajiks in general are sunni majority but Chinese Tajiks are mainly Ismailis
 
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@wanglaokan @beijingwalker

You guys are complicating the issue further, there is a PR issue here that can be solved by media strategy which Chinese are not doing. Saying the same BS of Islam-haters in West by you is inappropriate. I'm sure you are not that aware of what you are saying like Wahabbi and burkhas. It also proves China has misunderstood the problem. The hilarious part is that both u and religious muslims information sources and pointers against each other are Western-sourced.

You are mixing the issue also which is more ethnic than religious. Uyghur issue actually is a nationalist issue going back when USSR withdrew its ties from China alongwith other Warsaw Pact countries in 1965. USSR started to ignite separatist movements thru its Central Asian Republics KazakhSSR, TajikSSR bordering the region which is documented and one can study it. Pakistan or Islamic influence was'nt there at that time as there was/is'nt that much access or influence to begin with. Uyghurs have basic religious freedomsbut they do face problems which Hui, Dongxiang, Salar and other muslim communities don't. Uyghur is actually a beautiful culture than is different from Middle East. Uyghur religion, lifestyle is traditional and is actually a protection from foreign influences. When I travelled to the place I did'nt see that much burkhas, places like Turpan, Khotan, Aksu which are not urban did'nt see any burkhas there but traqditional uyghur attire. Chinese fear that they are inclined to be with Central Asian States but Uyghur region is much better than them in some aspects and China's economic strength can actually provide role model for the neighbouring states which have state repression and other problems to limit personal freedoms, inherited from Soviet system of govt.. Kashgar and Xinjiang is undergoing huge property boom which I support but there is some historical places as well as amazing traditional architecture of Uyghur that is being removed. Its actually counter-productive and bad economic decision as this Uyghur could actually help earn fantastic revenue as well as be a tourist hub for China.

The propaganda regarding Uyghurs and other Anti-Chinese [Tibet, Falun Gong,etc..] problem emanates from Outlets like Radio Free Asia which are US sponsored and hosted [HQ in Washington DC]. The head of this org. is Libby Liu. They target Chinese weaknesses in any way they can. PAkistani press does'nt cover uyghur issue that much only english print media like Dawn and Express Tribune do, which copy/paste India/US media and have USA stakeholders in its board. The Uyghur and Anti-Chinese propaganda in Afghan and Indian Media is sourced from this outlet as well as they sometimes indian media make thier own fake news regarding Uyghur. Most propagandists against China are actually Chinese Americans which I doubt are muslim, then there are Indian Americans also involved in this. Pakistan is also facing onslaught from Americans of PAkistani Origin [incorrectly called Pakistani Americans] who are attacking religion, culture, Pak society plus Pakistani Institutions like the army reacting to information which isnt authenticated they also are being used by US interests.

Chinese needs to identify first the black sheep in western sources and try to devise a PR plan, Pakistan also has this problem both are facing Western interests from within and are failing to respond to them.
 
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Xinjiang Authorities Confiscate ‘Extremist’ Qurans From Uyghur Muslims
2017-05-25

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Uyghur men gather outside for afternoon prayers at a mosque in Xinjiang's Kashgar prefecture, April 19, 2015.

Authorities in northwestern China’s Xinjiang region are confiscating all Qurans published more than five years ago due to “extremist content,” according to local officials, amid an ongoing campaign against “illegal” religious items owned by mostly Muslim ethnic Uyghur residents.

Village chiefs from Barin township, in Kashgar (in Chinese, Kashi) prefecture’s Peyziwat (Jiashi) county, recently told RFA’s Uyghur Service that hundreds of the Islamic holy books printed before 2012 had been seized since authorities issued an order recalling them on Jan. 15.

The Qurans were appropriated as part of the “Three Illegals and One Item” campaign underway in Xinjiang that bans “illegal” publicity materials, religious activities, and religious teaching, as well as items deemed by authorities to be tools of terrorism—including knives, flammable objects, remote-controlled toys, and objects sporting symbols related to Islam, they said.

Emet Imin, the party secretary of Barin’s No. 1 village, told RFA that authorities had confiscated 500 books in the recent campaign sweep of households beginning in January, “most of which were Qurans published before 2012.”

“They can keep Qurans that were published after August 2012, according to an order from the top, but they are not allowed to keep any other versions,” Imin said.

“Other versions should be recalled entirely, even if they were published by the government.”

Imin said that according to the order he received from his superiors, there were “problems” in the earlier version of the Quran related to “some signs of extremism.”

“Therefore, we issued a notice on Jan. 15 urging residents to hand over older Qurans and warning them they would bear the consequences if banned versions were found in their homes,” he said.

“As a result, most of them brought their Qurans to us. We gathered all [the books] at the village office and [earlier this month] we took them to the office of United Front Work Department,” he added, referring to a Communist Party agency responsible for handling relations with China’s non-party elite.

Only materials signed off on by official religious organizations endorsed by the ruling Chinese Communist Party are considered legal to own and use for worship in China, and Imin did not explain how a state-sanctioned version of the Quran might have been deemed “extremist” by authorities.

Imam Rishit, the party secretary of Barin’s No. 2 village, said that while the recall was only issued for Qurans published prior to 2012, residents of his village turned in every version of the Quran they owned, “most likely to [do whatever they can to] stay out of trouble.”

“We collected 382 of them and they will be taken to the township government,” he said.

“The type of work we are doing right now is meant to discourage residents from reading older versions of the Quran by warning them that they will be contaminated by extremist ideas. Therefore, the Uyghurs have been bringing their Qurans to us—even the ones they inherited from their grandparents.”

Rishit said authorities in his village had also confiscated “plates and decorative items with the inscriptions ‘Muhammed’ and ‘Allah’ on them” during the sweep of homes since January.

Anti-Islamic policies

Overseas Uyghurs slammed the Quran ban as merely another bid by Chinese authorities to exert more control over the Xinjiang region by linking their ethnic group’s cultural traditions to terrorism and promoting more government-friendly versions.

“The real objective of the Chinese government is to alienate Uyghur people from the true belief of Islam,” said Turghunjan Alawudin, Religious Commission chairman of the Munich-based World Uyghur Congress (WUC) exile group.

“China is attempting to justify its wholesale repression of the Uyghur people by distorting the teachings of the Holy Quran, Hadith [the sayings of the Prophet Muhammed] and Islamic theology passed down to us by our forefathers.”

Alawudin said that Beijing is working to ensure that the “accepted” version of the Quran legitimizes its “repressive policies” in Xinjiang and teaches the Uyghur people to “submit.”

“In Islam, we must follow Allah and the teachings of Muhammed, but the Chinese government is distorting the Quran by adding passages about submission to authorities so that Uyghurs will acquiesce to its illegitimate and dictatorial rule over our homeland,” he said.

“China’s goal is to use the new translated Quran to confuse the minds of believers and to serve its own political purposes.”

Alawudin denounced any version of the Quran that had been translated from the original Arabic into the Uyghur language by “atheists or communists,” saying only “learned Islamic scholars and true believers” are worthy of translating the holy book.

WUC spokesperson Dilxat Raxit echoed Alawudin’s concerns over what constitutes a legitimate version of the Quran.

“Only independent Islamic researchers and highly-trained religious scholars—not the atheistic Chinese government—should have the authority to pronounce which version of the Quran is correct,” he said.

“Instead of changing the Quran—the Holy Book of all Muslims—China should change its anti-Islamic policies against the Uyghur people disguised as anti-extremism.”

China regularly conducts “strike hard” campaigns in Xinjiang, including police raids on Uyghur households, restrictions on Islamic practices, and curbs on the culture and language of the Uyghur people, including videos and other material.

While China blames some Uyghurs for "terrorist" attacks, experts outside China say Beijing has exaggerated the threat from the Uyghurs and that repressive domestic policies are responsible for an upsurge in violence there that has left hundreds dead since 2009.

Reported by Shohret Hoshur for RFA’s Uyghur Service. Translated by Mamatjan Juma and Alim Seytoff. Written in English by Joshua Lipes.

http://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/qurans-05252017142212.html
 
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“They can keep Qurans that were published after August 2012, according to an order from the top, but they are not allowed to keep any other versions,” Imin said.

This means that they can keep communist Quran and Not the original one.
 
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From what i know central asians have very small number of Shias at best they could be 10% Shia
Tajik Shiah Muslim
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Uygher PLA soldiers

They were the first group to arrive in Pakistan and with strong links on both sides they can easily become the biggest beneficiaries of cpec :-)

You are correct tajiks in general are sunni majority but Chinese Tajiks are mainly Ismailis
To be honest, majority of Uyghers are concentrating in improving their living standard, they don't have time to be persecuted.

I know there are lot of Uyghers doing business in Pakistan, wish them good luck.

From what i know central asians have very small number of Shias at best they could be 10% Shia
They are mountain Tajik, other plain Tajik are Sunnis.

I think Pakistan shall unconditionally support China's stance in XingJiang. Same as China unconditionally support Pakistan's sovereign in Kashmir.@ and build CPEC in Azad Kashmir. Kashmir is Pakistan's land, I don't give a shit about whether the local is Hindu or Muslim.

That's called ally. Support each other's core interets unconditionally.

I have met Hans and Uighyurs but never met Chinese Tajiks and Kazakhs how different is their culture from non CHinese Tajiks and Kazakhs?
They are living at border area of XingJiang.

Far from reach.
 
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Uyghers are good people, very few of them are contaminated by Jihadist. They have a good culture deserved to be well protected.
Any Uyghur christians in China?
 
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Many of them
Thankfully! ;)

Now you're being stupid and denying the facts:

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/b...e-ban-china-arrests-muslim-for-tweeting-quran

http://www.newsweek.com/china-muslim-dna-testing-uighurs-610065

http://www.economist.com/news/china...mad-extraordinary-ways-which-china-humiliates

Some of the Pakistanis on this forum literally worship these Chinese like deities. Just because we are allies doesn't mean we cannot criticise each other.
If you're so concern of their well being. Pls take them to your house where ever you live.
 
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Xinjiang Authorities Confiscate ‘Extremist’ Qurans From Uyghur Muslims
2017-05-25

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Uyghur men gather outside for afternoon prayers at a mosque in Xinjiang's Kashgar prefecture, April 19, 2015.

Authorities in northwestern China’s Xinjiang region are confiscating all Qurans published more than five years ago due to “extremist content,” according to local officials, amid an ongoing campaign against “illegal” religious items owned by mostly Muslim ethnic Uyghur residents.

Village chiefs from Barin township, in Kashgar (in Chinese, Kashi) prefecture’s Peyziwat (Jiashi) county, recently told RFA’s Uyghur Service that hundreds of the Islamic holy books printed before 2012 had been seized since authorities issued an order recalling them on Jan. 15.

The Qurans were appropriated as part of the “Three Illegals and One Item” campaign underway in Xinjiang that bans “illegal” publicity materials, religious activities, and religious teaching, as well as items deemed by authorities to be tools of terrorism—including knives, flammable objects, remote-controlled toys, and objects sporting symbols related to Islam, they said.

Emet Imin, the party secretary of Barin’s No. 1 village, told RFA that authorities had confiscated 500 books in the recent campaign sweep of households beginning in January, “most of which were Qurans published before 2012.”

“They can keep Qurans that were published after August 2012, according to an order from the top, but they are not allowed to keep any other versions,” Imin said.

“Other versions should be recalled entirely, even if they were published by the government.”

Imin said that according to the order he received from his superiors, there were “problems” in the earlier version of the Quran related to “some signs of extremism.”

“Therefore, we issued a notice on Jan. 15 urging residents to hand over older Qurans and warning them they would bear the consequences if banned versions were found in their homes,” he said.

“As a result, most of them brought their Qurans to us. We gathered all [the books] at the village office and [earlier this month] we took them to the office of United Front Work Department,” he added, referring to a Communist Party agency responsible for handling relations with China’s non-party elite.

Only materials signed off on by official religious organizations endorsed by the ruling Chinese Communist Party are considered legal to own and use for worship in China, and Imin did not explain how a state-sanctioned version of the Quran might have been deemed “extremist” by authorities.

Imam Rishit, the party secretary of Barin’s No. 2 village, said that while the recall was only issued for Qurans published prior to 2012, residents of his village turned in every version of the Quran they owned, “most likely to [do whatever they can to] stay out of trouble.”

“We collected 382 of them and they will be taken to the township government,” he said.

“The type of work we are doing right now is meant to discourage residents from reading older versions of the Quran by warning them that they will be contaminated by extremist ideas. Therefore, the Uyghurs have been bringing their Qurans to us—even the ones they inherited from their grandparents.”

Rishit said authorities in his village had also confiscated “plates and decorative items with the inscriptions ‘Muhammed’ and ‘Allah’ on them” during the sweep of homes since January.

Anti-Islamic policies

Overseas Uyghurs slammed the Quran ban as merely another bid by Chinese authorities to exert more control over the Xinjiang region by linking their ethnic group’s cultural traditions to terrorism and promoting more government-friendly versions.

“The real objective of the Chinese government is to alienate Uyghur people from the true belief of Islam,” said Turghunjan Alawudin, Religious Commission chairman of the Munich-based World Uyghur Congress (WUC) exile group.

“China is attempting to justify its wholesale repression of the Uyghur people by distorting the teachings of the Holy Quran, Hadith [the sayings of the Prophet Muhammed] and Islamic theology passed down to us by our forefathers.”

Alawudin said that Beijing is working to ensure that the “accepted” version of the Quran legitimizes its “repressive policies” in Xinjiang and teaches the Uyghur people to “submit.”

“In Islam, we must follow Allah and the teachings of Muhammed, but the Chinese government is distorting the Quran by adding passages about submission to authorities so that Uyghurs will acquiesce to its illegitimate and dictatorial rule over our homeland,” he said.

“China’s goal is to use the new translated Quran to confuse the minds of believers and to serve its own political purposes.”

Alawudin denounced any version of the Quran that had been translated from the original Arabic into the Uyghur language by “atheists or communists,” saying only “learned Islamic scholars and true believers” are worthy of translating the holy book.

WUC spokesperson Dilxat Raxit echoed Alawudin’s concerns over what constitutes a legitimate version of the Quran.

“Only independent Islamic researchers and highly-trained religious scholars—not the atheistic Chinese government—should have the authority to pronounce which version of the Quran is correct,” he said.

“Instead of changing the Quran—the Holy Book of all Muslims—China should change its anti-Islamic policies against the Uyghur people disguised as anti-extremism.”

China regularly conducts “strike hard” campaigns in Xinjiang, including police raids on Uyghur households, restrictions on Islamic practices, and curbs on the culture and language of the Uyghur people, including videos and other material.

While China blames some Uyghurs for "terrorist" attacks, experts outside China say Beijing has exaggerated the threat from the Uyghurs and that repressive domestic policies are responsible for an upsurge in violence there that has left hundreds dead since 2009.

Reported by Shohret Hoshur for RFA’s Uyghur Service. Translated by Mamatjan Juma and Alim Seytoff. Written in English by Joshua Lipes.

http://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/qurans-05252017142212.html
Another fabricated story. Yeh, we rewrite the CCP Quran's. It says India is a supa Powa in the making.
 
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Another fabricated story. Yeh, we rewrite the CCP Quran's. It says India is a supa Powa in the making.
It's fine. Let them cry. Unless they can do something about it, it doesn't bother us.
 
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It make them dying when China is getting better day by day.
 
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Another fabricated story. Yeh, we rewrite the CCP Quran's. It says India is a supa Powa in the making.

@beijingwalker
ROFL I just mentioned it again an indian @Gregor Clegane posted propaganda from RFA
I already have written in my post about Radio Free Asia [rfa.org]. Indian media and Afghan media [occupied by USA] uses most of their literature for their uyghur, tibet and other anti-Chinese news. This RFA is based in Washington DC.
RFA only reports from China, PAkistan and Afghanistan and ignores any reports from India and Myanmar esp. Kashmir and Rohingya. Kashmir is facing lockdown, mass rapes, mass killings and mass blindings [around 1100+ Kashmiris permanently blind by Indian state forces firing pellets in their eyes] in hands of India, Myanmar is ethnic cleansing Rohingya putting them in concentration camps inside Rakhine State. Rohingya are the worst affected community on earth as they are being forced out and killed but this Radio Free Asia has not one report about this community, Palestinian or any other as the state that is committing brutalities is allied with USA.
This is why China is not doing a great job to counter this Radio Free Asia like US propaganda machines, mocking and joking won't deter them or help your cause but addressing and responding to them will.
 
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They are mountain Tajik, other plain Tajik are Sunnis.
Ok i read somewhere that these CHinese Tajiks speak a different dialect of Tajik that is very different from standard Tajik so it would not be wrong to consider them a unique ethnic group
That's called ally. Support each other's core interets unconditionally.
:cheers:
 
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