Muslim group says Dr. Kalam was not a Muslim as he prayed to idols and respected gurus

[I.R.A]

You are very wrong about Indian Muslims, but then I am no longer bent on changing your mind. Neither are they going to be affected by you nor you by them.

I won't blame you all you have met is indian Muslim .......... wish someday you would meet any other Muslim and know him good.

 

[padamchen]

I won't blame you all you have met is indian Muslim .......... wish someday you would meet any other Muslim and know him good.

No. I have three very close Iranian Muslim friends as well. In fact 4, though one is now no more. Know a few more not as close. Socially.

If you want me to have a Pakistani Muslim friend in particular, that can be a bit challenging in India ...

Cheers, Doc

 

[nair]

How does it matter???? He has been a great man, and he was a great inspiration for lot of us...... Unnecessary controversies.....

 

[I.R.A]

No. I have three very close Iranian Muslim friends as well. In fact 4, though one is now no more. Know a few more not as close. Socially.

If you want me to have a Pakistani Muslim friend in particular, that can be a bit challenging in India ...

Cheers, Doc

Okay lets approach it this way

Name me the qualities of your indian Muslim friends that you don't find in any other indian. Bullet wise

 

[KN-1]

i agree, anyone who worship idols is anything but Muslim..

bharati should call him bharati, no need to add Muslim since Muslim already know their worth in bharat.

 

[padamchen]

Okay lets approach it this way

Name me the qualities of your indian Muslim friends that you don't find in any other indian. Bullet wise

Not possible. There are none.

If you ask me for general trends, and differences between Hindus and Muslims on the whole, mota mota, I can.

Cheers, Doc

 

[BATMAN]

He was mushrik مشرک?

When your school curriculum is laid down by RSS, this is the expected result.

 

[soundHound]

Well most of the scientist are atheist, as they don't believe in God rather they believe in particles, so for him being Hindu,Muslims etc nothing mattered, only thing mattered was an Indian identity.

FYI: I firmly believe religions are nothing but man made business plan, I don't believe God created us, I do believe human kind created them. We are here just coz earth was in perfect spot to bear life.

 

[I.R.A]

Not possible. There are none.

If you ask me for general trends, and differences between Hindus and Muslims on the whole, mota mota, I can.

Cheers, Doc

I am more interested in qualities .......... and if your Muslims friends can't stand out from rest of indians based on their qualities .......... then they surely are lost.

Anyhow so what are the differences?

 

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http://www.opindia.com/2017/07/musl...im-as-he-prayed-to-idols-and-respected-gurus/
Muslim group says Dr. Kalam was not a Muslim as he prayed to idols and respected gurus

On 27th July, Prime Minister Narendra Modi inaugurated the memorial dedicated to India’s ex-President and ‘missile man’ APJ Abdul Kalam on his 2nd death anniversary. This memorial was built by a dedicated force of 450 workers, who had demanded no extra money even though they had worked for extra time.

An imposing statue of Dr Kalam with a Veena was also installed inside the memorial:

The memorial has unfortunately resulted in various political and fringe groups using it as a pretext to create a religious controversy.

Initially, a Congress leader had questioned the need for putting a Veena in Dr. Kalam’s hand because he was a missile man and not any Veena artist. The truth is that Dr. Kalam was an expert playing that instrument, a fact that seems to have escaped the leader’s knowledge.

Another controversy erupted when political groups like the MDMK started questioning the presence of Bhagwat Gita in the statue. To quell the controversy, family members of Dr. Kalam also placed a copy of the Quran and Bible each to apparently ‘secularise’ things and also promised to place the Thirukkural soon.

This in turn led to a protest from Hindu Makkal Katchi, which lodged a police complaint about the Quran and Bible getting placed near the statue without proper authorisation. They also reportedly protested in front of the memorial which led to the cops removing the two holy books.

Now a Muslim group named Tamil Nadu Thowheed Jamath has decided to take things to a new low by making defamatory personal remarks against Dr. Kalam.

The Jamath claimed that Quran was not needed in front of the statue of Kalam, as he was not a Muslim. The group claimed that Dr. Kalam just had a Muslim name, and not a real Muslim because he apparently prayed to Hindu idols and gurus.

Incidentally, this is not for the first time that Dr. Kalam has been denied a Muslim identity. Way back when he was declared the Presidential candidate by the NDA, senior Congress leader and Muslim scholar Dr. Rafiq Zakaria too had declared that Dr. Kalam can’t be considered a Muslim as his favourite scripture was the Bhagvad Gita, and favourite deity was Krishna.

So Hindus and Muslim groups both bad mouthed Kalam. This peace of write up clearly says this.

 

[padamchen]

I am more interested in qualities .......... and if your Muslims friends can't stand out from rest of indians based on their qualities .......... then they surely are lost.

Anyhow so what are the differences?

Loyalty.

Zuban.

Religosity (actually more than religosity - knowledge about the faith).

Guts in a one on one violent situation (if you take Maratha out)

Cheers, Doc

 

[I.R.A]

Loyalty.

Zuban.

Religosity (actually more than religosity - knowledge about the faith).

Guts in a one on one violent situation (if you take Maratha out)

Cheers, Doc

So Muslims are more loyal, religious, brave etc?

 

[padamchen]

So Muslims are more loyal, religious, brave etc?

General trends in my experience of one individual.

Though I've heard the same from others too.

Bravery is different from guts/balls. Everyone is afraid. Its how you react in spite of it that I am talking about.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Suriya]

So Hindus and Muslim groups both bad mouthed Kalam. This peace of write up clearly says this.

Hindu group bad mouthed Kalam . When did that happen ?

General trends in my experience of one individual.

Though I've heard the same from others too.

Bravery is different from guts/balls. Everyone is afraid. Its how you react in spite of it that I am talking about.

Cheers, Doc

Doc , you meet too many upper caste careerist Secular Hindus and Gujju baniyas

 

[padamchen]

Hindu group bad mouthed Kalam . When did that happen ?


Doc , you meet too many upper caste careerist Secular Hindus and Gujju baniyas

Not really. I have two sides of my personal life.

One which my family knows about, friends, professional colleagues know about.

And one which only my wife knows about .... to an extent.

Which is why I said, take Marathas out. And thapas ...

Cheers, Doc