Muslim countries of the World where triple talaq is banned

[IbnAbdullah]

Salaam

As far as i know Daughter of Mohammad PBUH fatima (RA) his wives khadija and ayesha R A. mother of Jesus christ RA Mariam, wife of pharoh of egypt are highest examples to follow for muslim women and none of these women RA ever covered their faces like they do now these days..

Muslims are to follow them and they only covered their beauty the atteactive parts from strangers as to keep modisty. There is no question of hiding one's face.

This practice started in madina, so the matter of Kadija r.a doing it shouldn't really be an issue. Similarly, wife of Pharoah and Maryum a.s were following a different shariah so it is not really an issue as well.

I am very curious, though, about your evidence regarding Ayesha r.a and Fatima r.a not covering their faces in front of non-Mahrams once the order came about. So essentially, later in life . Especially because I've read a lot of material that says to the contrary.

I'd be interested in learning the other side of this.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Salaam



This practice started in madina, so the matter of Kadija r.a doing it shouldn't really be an issue. Similarly, wife of Pharoah and Maryum a.s were following a different shariah so it is not really an issue as well.

I am very curious, though, about your evidence regarding Ayesha r.a and Fatima r.a not covering their faces in front of non-Mahrams once the order came about. So essentially, later in life . Especially because I've read a lot of material that says to the contrary.

I'd be interested in learning the other side of this.

So when the prohpet saya follow those 3 women in evrrything from the way they dressed to the way they talked to the way they conducted themslves in society. That doesn't include following them haan its a different sharia now for u , bit quran says there has been only 1 sharia since prophet Noah PBUH. Ever since him the rules are the same... Anyways do some research iv done mine.

Face hiding is unislamic. It can be a cultiral thing from some place in arabia but it has nothing to do with islam. And for ur information islam didn't come with prophet Mohammad PBUH islam was completed with him. It started with Adam PBUH. Read the Quran all the answers are in there. Don't recite in arabic read it in ir ownedium of study and communication.

 

[313ghazi]

Triple Talaq is islamically valid but it is not recommended. If you issue talaq once you can go back on it. If you issue it twice you can go back on it, if you issue it three times, you cannot go back on it. According to the scholars of the ahle sunnah triple talaq is valid, but nobody recommends it.

 

[BATMAN]

Bow the unislamic practice of face hiding burqa or veil should be banned asap. Starting with pakistan, turkey, iran , etc

Face hiding is unnatural, totally wrong and a disease mentality!

Very correct and so is the triple talaq.

What is the principle motivation of getting married?

Usually for first marriage (Pakistan) it's Sex.

 

[313ghazi]

https://www.seekersguidance.org/answers/general-counsel/the-lawful-nature-of-niqab-face-veiling/

 

[M.AsfandYar]

I'll PM you the entire dissertation with references from an Indian human rights rep. You will be shocked.

CAn you send me those too.

 

[third eye]

What is the principle motivation of getting married?

All men must marry. Happiness , after all is not everything in life !

 

[313ghazi]

It can't be both at same time.
Triple talaq is nonsense.... technically one can give million talaqs what's the obsession with triple talaq?

In Shariah, after a man declares divorce three times, he cannot take it back - that woman is haram to him forever (unless she re-marries, and then her other spouse dies or she is divorced). That is why the three figure is important. If you declare talaq once, you can revoke it. If you declare it twice you can revoke it - at the third attempt there is no option to revoke it.

Regarding triple talaq and it's validity. There is a difference of opinion, but the majority opinion is that is valid, but not recommend. How can something be valid yet not recommend? You can ride a pedal cycle without a helmet, but it is not reccomended. You can eat cake for breakfast, lunch and dinner, it's not recommended - there are endless examples of where something is halal, but not recommended.

This is a wahabi source explaining this - https://islamqa.info/en/answers/365...h-has-now-ended-and-he-wants-to-take-her-back

This is a deobandi source explaining this - https://www.deoband.org/2013/05/fiq...ivorces-issued-in-one-sitting-counted-as-one/

This is a barelvi source - https://www.seekerspath.co.uk/quest...id-i-divorce-you-3-times-am-i-still-his-wife/

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Regarding the comments mocking Muslims asking scholars stupid questions - it is not a reflection on the narrow mindedness of the individuals asking the questions, but a reflection of how poorly islam is taught to our people, that questions of basic fiqh need to be told to grown adults. This is not the fault of individuals but the community as a whole.

 

[BATMAN]

In Shariah, after a man declares divorce three times, he cannot take it back - that woman is haram to him forever (unless she re-marries, and then her other spouse dies or she is divorced). That is why the three figure is important. If you declare talaq once, you can revoke it. If you declare it twice you can revoke it - at the third attempt there is no option to revoke it.

Regarding triple talaq and it's validity. There is a difference of opinion, but the majority opinion is that is valid, but not recommend. How can something be valid yet not recommend? You can ride a pedal cycle without a helmet, but it is not reccomended. You can eat cake for breakfast, lunch and dinner, it's not recommended - there are endless examples of where something is halal, but not recommended.

This is a wahabi source explaining this - https://islamqa.info/en/answers/365...h-has-now-ended-and-he-wants-to-take-her-back

This is a deobandi source explaining this - https://www.deoband.org/2013/05/fiq...ivorces-issued-in-one-sitting-counted-as-one/

This is a barelvi source - https://www.seekerspath.co.uk/quest...id-i-divorce-you-3-times-am-i-still-his-wife/

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Regarding the comments mocking Muslims asking scholars stupid questions - it is not a reflection on the narrow mindedness of the individuals asking the questions, but a reflection of how poorly islam is taught to our people, that questions of basic fiqh need to be told to grown adults. This is not the fault of individuals but the community as a whole.

thanks for the explanation... issue is about issuing a tallaq equivalent to 3 in first time by the constitution of Pakistan, which is wrong and kills the whole principal of 3 tallaq provision.
Just an addition to your explanation, even one talaq can't be revoked if dead line of certain period expires.

 

[Psychic]

Burqa has it's origins from pre-Islamic periods, Persians, Romans/Byzantines and Jews had those type of face veil traditions.

Islamic world should start talking about Science, Technology and Education... when i see those "religious" discussions on YT and hear them talk why we shouldn't wipe our a$$es with the right hand, i understand why the west exploits the Muslim nations.

Aq people are planning to colonize Mars and we are talking about Burqa and this stuff.

Our "scientists" are busy bashing religious scholars instead of inventing something.
Pdf variety of "scientists" included.

Time for self-reflection for those whose JOB was to invent and write research papers.
Perhaps other than their favorite past-time(bashing Islam), they were busy in copy-paste.

Blaming prayers, faith, fast and divorce for lagging behind in science and technology is no different than blaming theologists for sacking of Baghdad instead of the incompetent Generals whose job was to defend the city.

 

[jamahir]

Tripple talaq in a single sitting should be considered single talaq... recomended way (by Prophet P.B.U.H) is to give one talaq after 30 days..

Mean
1 today...
1 after 30 days..
1 after 30 days..

Mean whole talaq process takes 2 months. I dont know why this is still allowed, should be banned.

Three months, yes ??

And Triple Talaq that is not the problem. The problem is Instant Triple Talaq.

 

[nahtanbob]

Halal meat, circumcision, topi wearing all set to follow, and I'm not joking.



Have you heard this one, if I see naked women on tv is it a sin, as the images are in 2D.

would a naked image on 3d screen be fine ? I am working on technology for 3d tv

 

[BATMAN]

The problem is Instant Triple Talaq.

Instant tripple talaq is wrong and not according to Quran... a man has to go through the 3 talaqs and the process and time period involved therein. that means 3x 30-40 days and 3 x times talaq, without using revocation right.

 

[313ghazi]

thanks for the explanation... issue is about issuing a tallaq equivalent to 3 in first time by the constitution of Pakistan, which is wrong and kills the whole principal of 3 tallaq provision.
Just an addition to your explanation, even one talaq can't be revoked if dead line of certain period expires.

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would a naked image on 3d screen be fine ? I am working on technology for 3d tv

it would be extra haram as there is another dimension.

 

[jamahir]

Covering the face is certainly not unIslamic.

I will copy-paste here my post from another thread :

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The full burqa with the niqab ( face cover ) is not Islami but comes from a Jewish sect. An Egyptian member of parliament, Amna Nosseir, has researched on this and has called for a ban on the burqa.

An Egyptian lawmaker has said members of parliament are drafting a law that would ban women from wearing the burqa in government institutions after alleging the Islamic full-face veil was a "Jewish tradition".

Amna Nosseir said on Sunday that the proposed ban would be in the best interest of Egyptian society and that she has been battling against the burqa over the past 40 years.

Nosseir, who wears the hijab, said on Wednesday that the burqa - known in Arabic as the niqab - had its origins in Jewish religious law.

"In the Old Testament, you find in chapter 38 that the Jewish religious authorities tell you that if Jewish women leave the house without covering the face and head then they are breaking Jewish religious law," the lawmaker said during an interview with local media.

"I have gathered around 20 texts by Jewish religious authorities that completely forbid women from showing their faces and heads," Nosseir said while discussing also banning female university students from wearing "ripped jeans" in lectures.

She added that this part of Jewish law became entrenched in pre-Islamic Arab tribes of the Arabian Peninsula and then spread throughout the Middle East with the Muslim conquests.

The verse the lawmaker could be referring to is Genesis 38, where a biblical figure encounters his daughter-in-law in the street and mistakes her for a prostitute because she had covered her face with a veil.

@Foxtrot Delta