What's new

Muslim and Hindu leaders who were loyalists of British Empire

Yeah, I am sure. Have met these kind in person too.
They are dime a dozen in hyderabad, as many rohingyas stay here, once Assam is cleared up these will be deported too.

ip can be spoofed , i used to have USA ip when i used proxy to access sites from china.I guess that's how false flags operate.
 
.
They fought for their Islamic empire. Later on they actually supported the British against Indian independence. Europeans have a 300 year old history of bringing misery to India. Muslims had triple the time to do so. Go to Hampi and see what the Muslims have done. Read the correct history of Tipu Sultan. That politically correct India does not talk of Muslim atrocities in the open does not mean Indians do not remember what the Muslims did.

@wolfschanzze

Muslims didn't persecute Hindus. India was the richest country in the world during Muslim rule. India became the poorest when European Christians started ruling.

British distorted history and some Hindu scriptures too.If you don't beleive me then watch this video of great Indian Hindu activist.



If you still hate Muslim rulers then what can I say. Christianity wants to destroy Hinduism and converts its 1 billion followers. Muslim and Hindus lived peacefully before Christians started divided and rule.

If you want to stay ignorant its your choice.
 
.
They are dime a dozen in hyderabad, as many rohingyas stay here, once Assam is cleared up these will be deported too.

ip can be spoofed , i used to have USA ip when i used proxy to access sites from china.I guess that's how false flags operate.

Aren't Rohingyas a recent addition to the Indian landscape? His meanderings on the other hand seem to be of the old Razakar style. Like they were born to rule over Hindus and we should be grateful they graced us with their presence.
 
.
@wolfschanzze

Muslims didn't persecute Hindus. India was the richest country in the world during Muslim rule. India became the poorest when European Christians started ruling.

British distorted history and some Hindu scriptures too.If you don't beleive me then watch this video of great Indian Hindu activist.



If you still hate Muslim rulers then what can I say. Christianity wants to destroy Hinduism and converts its 1 billion followers. Muslim and Hindus lived peacefully before Christians started divided and rule.

If you want to stay ignorant its your choice.
Yeah right, the Muslim rule was the most peaceful we know what it was your lies wont sell here,we see it everyday around the world and all riots in India linked to them.
India was a rich country even before Muslims came, Big deal.
 
.
India was a rich country even before Muslims came, Big deal
I never disagreed. But it become one of the poorest after Christians started ruling in contrast to Muslim rule.

Why don't watch those videos then comment? Or you just want to keep blindly hating us.
 
.
Muslims didn't persecute Hindus. India was the richest country in the world during Muslim rule. India became the poorest when European Christians started ruling.

Screen%20Shot%202012-06-20%20at%209.37.55%20AM.png


See this? See the time when there were no Muslims in India, India's share of world GDP was 40%. See where India started slipping up and losing its share? Right, that is the time Muslims were burning up India and making mountains of Hindu skulls. Of course a much weakened and debilitated India fell prey to the Europeans much later all thanks to the ruin brought to India by Muslims. Now what were you saying about richness of India during Muslim rule? Of course the palaces and sultans and courtiers were rich. They had a large Hindu population to bleed dry to support their debauchery.
 
.
Aren't Rohingyas a recent addition to the Indian landscape? His meanderings on the other hand seem to be of the old Razakar style. Like they were born to rule over Hindus and we should be grateful they graced us with their presence.
Yes supported by that Mullah Owaisi,he is giving Ration cards and Voter ID's to them in Hyderabad.Already MIM is being challenged in its own backyard by BJP now,things will only get better in future.

I never disagreed. But it become one of the poorest after Christians started ruling in contrast to Muslim rule.

Why don't watch those videos then comment? Or you just want to keep blindly hating us.
Are you in favour of Uniform Civil code? and family planning?
 
.
Yes supported by that Mullah Owaisi,he is giving Ration cards and Voter ID's to them in Hyderabad.Already MIM is being challenged in its own backyard by BJP now,things will only get better in future.

How many of them did India get? Did all of them come to India?
 
.
How many of them did India get? Did all of them come to India?
According to some local news channels around 600 -700 were rehabilitated in Old city of Hyderabad by MIM that is official figure, unofficially it may be in thousands.owaisi heart bleeds for Rohingyas He should move to Myanmar if he so much likes them.What is our Obligation to help them, they are not even related to us.
Rohingyas in Hyderabad live in fear - The Times of India

 
. .
Are you in favour of Uniform Civil code? and family planning?
Against principles of Islam. So no.

We Muslims aren't converting millions of Hindus into Islam like the Christians. You should be focusing on that. You already have lost South-India to Christian missionaries.

You bigots don't even to listen. You want to blindly bas Muslims and Islam. Hindus have a bigger threat from Zionists and Christians who made Hindus and Muslims fight while Christians started to take advantaged in the background. So many poor Hindus and Muslims while Christians are only getting richer and richer.

Listen to Rajiv Dixit ji maybe he can cure your Islamaphobia.
 
.
According to some local news channels around 600 -700 were rehabilitated in Old city of Hyderabad by MIM that is official figure, unofficially it may be in thousands.owaisi heart bleeds for Rohingyas He should move to Myanmar if he so much likes them.What is our Obligation to help them, they are not even related to us.
Rohingyas in Hyderabad live in fear - The Times of India


I read somewhere a whole lot of them were settled in J&K too.
 
. .
Were not Bhai Zakir and Fsayed of similar bent of mind like him.
Right,They have gone in obscurity,after BJP win and so will this one.
But atleast they were pro-india unlike this guy.Who is Anti-India.

I read somewhere a whole lot of them were settled in J&K too.
If you saw the video he says more Burmese are coming in 6 months so they have to vacate in 6 moths and go somewhere else,means vanish into Indian Population in meantime procure legal documents,Passaport,Voter Ids etc.
They are settled in Mulim ghettos and places where muslims are more. Like UP,hyderabad,Bihar,WB,assam etc.This scourge is slowly spreading.
 
.
Here is an excellent essay by mr. hamdani.

show which Muslim Mullahs were on payroll of British.



  • Maulana Fazlur Rahman Muradabadi with having facilitated the English capture of Lucknow.
  • Maulana Rashid Gangohi, Tazkira-e-Rasheed, on page 80 has the great Deobandi freedom fighter claiming that he was entirely loyal to the British Empire
  • Dean of Darul Uloom Deoband, Hafiz Maulana Muhammad Ahmad, was given the title of “Shams-ul-Ulema” by the British governor of UP
  • Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi was principally a supporter of British rule and declared jihad against the British to be unlawful.
  • Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, made his name as a recruiter for the British Empire before and during the First World War. For his stellar services to the British Empire, in 1915 Gandhiji was awarded the Kaiser-e-Hind medal — the highest honour for a loyal British Indian subject.



Please do not forget to read the last paragraph before commenting. Thank you


Loyalists of the British Empire

Almost all Deobandi religious leaders and all Barelvi ulema were on the payroll of the empire. This is how they sustained a living and ample proof can be found in their own books

Yasser Latif Hamdani
July 07, 2014




Canadian activist and polemicist Tarek Fatah, responding to my article ‘Shorish Kashmiri, Azad and partition’ last week (Daily Times, June 30, 2014) thought it wise to declare, on Twitter, that what I had written about Shorish Kashmiri was inspired by Ahmedi propaganda. He declared that no Ahmedi had fought against the British and that the British had sustained the Ahmedi community and rewarded it time and again. This, of course, is the standard line of the mullahs in Pakistan, a line that has been forwarded time and again by Tehreek-e-Khatm-e-Nabuwat and Majlis-e-Ahrar. This was also the elaborate fiction that Shorish Kashmiri invented along with Ataullah Shah Bokhari and Mazhar Ali Azhar of Ahrar in the 1940s to attack the Muslim League and discredit it as the authoritative representative of Muslims. What is strange however is that a self-styled progressive refusenik like Fatah, who does not tire of attacking Muslims otherwise, has chosen to repeat this distortion of history.

The biggest issue the scholars of Deobandi and Barelvi schools had with the Ahmedis was that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the founder of the sect, had reinterpreted the doctrine of jihad as more than qital (fighting). Consequently, the Ahmedi community as a whole remained constitutional and law-abiding citizens of British India. The Ahmedi religious movement itself had been at the forefront of the missionary activities of the church. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, before founding the Ahmedi sect, had been considered the intellectual champion of Muslims against the onslaught of the Christian west and the re-absorption activities of Hindu sects like the Arya Samajists. A peaceful, hardworking and enterprising community, the Ahmedis produced the likes of Sir Zafrullah Khan who was one of the finest advocates in law, the president of the Muslim League for a while, one of Pakistan’s founders and later head of the International Court of Justice. For this reason, Ahmedis are denounced as British agents even though there is not a single Ahmedi who received any patronage or pension from the British Empire.

Let us, however, look at the roles of those other groups who were considered to be at the forefront of the Independence Movement. That the Hindu reform and revival movement itself owed a great deal to British patronage after 1857 can hardly be disputed. Needless to say, the most celebrated freedom fighter in all of South Asia, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, made his name as a recruiter for the British Empire before and during the First World War. When Jinnah asked Gandhi to join the movement for Indian self-rule, Gandhi’s condescending reply, in olde English, was, “First ye seek the recruiting office” and then the British will open their doors to his petitions. For his stellar services to the British Empire, in 1915 Gandhiji was awarded the Kaiser-e-Hind medal — the highest honour for a loyal British Indian subject.

Hindus were not the only ones to receive this patronage by the empire. Almost all Deobandi religious leaders — supposedly the most militant of anti-British elements — and all Barelvi ulema were on the payroll of the empire. This is how they sustained a living and ample proof can be found in their own books. For example, in Sawanay-e-Qasimi — the biography of Maulana Qasim Nanawatvi — page 103 credits Maulana Fazlur Rahman Muradabadi with having facilitated the English capture of Lucknow. On page 247 of the same book we find that Deobandi religious figures were proud of being pensioners of the British Empire and used it to prove their loyalty to the monarch. The biography of Maulana Rashid Gangohi, Tazkira-e-Rasheed, on page 80 has the great Deobandi freedom fighter claiming that he was entirely loyal to the British Empire. On page 160 of the Tehreek-e-Shaikh-ul-Hind, we find that another ‘freedom fighter’ and the Dean of Darul Uloom Deoband, Hafiz Maulana Muhammad Ahmad, was given the title of “Shams-ul-Ulema” by the British governor of UP. His most famous student was Maulana Hussain Ahmad Madni, the great ally of the Congress Party and the leader of Jamiat-e-Ulema-Hind — another ‘freedom fighter’. He is considered a great hero of the freedom movement by Pakistani Islamists and Indian nationalists. The entire Deoband edifice was built on official patronage and British pensions.

Now let us come to the other side of the Hanafi Sunni coin: the Barelvis. Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi was principally a supporter of British rule and declared jihad against the British to be unlawful. His fatwa can be found on page 447 of his treatise Al-Mohajat, Al Mohtamanat Fi Ayat-al-Mumtahanat. Francis Robinson, in his book Separatism Amongst Indian Muslims: The politics of UP Muslims 1860-1923 on page 268 confirms the pro-government fatwas of Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi.

Similarly, the Shias by and large remained loyal and law abiding citizens of the empire though it must be said to their credit that, unlike the Barelvis and Deobandis, they were not patronised by the British. A sub-sect of Shia Islam, the Ismailis, both Agha Khanis and Bohris, looked towards the British Raj as a means to protect them from hostile sectarian majorities. Indeed, so close was the relationship of Sir Agha Khan to the British that Kemal Ataturk publicly accused the Agha Khan of working for the British against Turkey, though unjustifiably. Needless to say, Kemal Ataturk himself has also been accused of being a British agent by latter day votaries of the pan-Islamic khilafat.

The point I wish to make is this: people interacted with the empire in different ways. Some people, very few and far between, did take up arms against the empire, more often for reasons wholly unsavoury than noble ones. Others worked within the system or were its beneficiaries. The accusation targeting one community or the other of having been ‘British agents’ is therefore farfetched and wholly unfounded. As free men and women in the 21st century, we should approach modern realities without the rancour that our blinkered views on history cause. As for Tarek Fatah, given his penchant to attack minorities like Ahmedis, the logical question is whether he feels any pang of hypocrisy vis-à-vis the fact that he is a Canadian subject of the Queen of England?

@Azlan Haider, @Joe Shearer (you probably know all this)

Loyalists of the British Empire
list is not all complete, Sir Syed Ahmed Khan was the biggest Puppet of west, Also that Shah Mehmood Kasuri's grand dad was another puppet and so was the grand dad of Dr Arbab Ghulam Raheem. In fact when British Queen gave the distinction of being 'Sir' to Salman Rushdie Dr Arbab Ghulam Raheem gave them back his Grand dad's distinction of 'Sir'.

And we know to whom that Queen give the ''Honor'' of Sir!
 
.

Latest posts

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom