Mushshak Trainer Aircraft

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Super Mushshak's exact price is unknown.

Mushshak Light 5 is Pakistani Rupees 6 million (Rs. 60 Lakhs)

NOTE: The price of Pakistani Rs 6 million is of a version of Mushshak which is called "Mushshak Light 5". This (Mushshak Light 5) aircraft is non-aerobatic and not of military use. Pakistan Aeronautical Complex have introduced this aircraft only for the in-country private sector to generate/help grow the aviation market. Additionally the price is also introductory price for initial few buyers. The Super Mushshak which has vast capabilities, when compared to Mushshak Light 5, is a much costlier aircraft.

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Is the cost of super mushshak 5mil for iraq? what was the unit cost for SA and oman?

@Aeronaut

USD5m / aircraft??? - dosnt make sense!

Price of Super Mashak was PKR 7500000 in 2011-12 but this was not final. If a large quantity is ordered it reduces.

 

[Nishan_101]

Official
Confirmation of the deal from PAC

Read more: Pakistan Secures Deal Worth $94 million To Supply 20 Super Mushak Trainers

Pakistan should also market it as a surveillance aircraft too. I am sure that IRAQ might going to buy more than 20 may be 35-55 of these. Also Pakistan's PAC should make up teams and bring in Military or Security Personals from Africa, South America and Asian regions to see PAC products and other products of their interest. I am sure Pakistan could easily sell 200 Super Mushak in 5 years and can also build 110 for their own needs as well.

Pakistan Sells Trainer Aircraft to Iraq, Seeks Further Contracts

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan on Monday signed deals to supply basic trainer aircraft to the Iraqi Air Force and help train its personnel, sparking hopes it can secure further deals as the Middle Eastern country tries to rebuild its air arm.

Analysts are generally skeptical large-scale deals will be in the offing, but concede it is possible.

The Associated Press of Pakistan reported that agreements to provide training and development assistance for the Iraqi Air Force and for Super Mushak trainer planes were signed by the head of the Pakistan Air Force, Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt, and the commander of Iraq’s Air Force, Gen. Anwer Hamad Amen Ahmed.

A nine-member Iraqi defense delegation, which included the commander of Iraqi air defense, Gen. Jabbar Ubaid Kedhum, has been in Pakistan since last week, visiting facilities such as the Air Force academy at Risalpur and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex at Kamra, the home of Pakistan’s aviation industry.

According to a government press release, they also met with Pakistan’s minister for defense production, Tanveer Hussain, and were offered training and the full range of training aircraft, from basic propeller-driven planes to intermediate jets, plus communication equipment.

Defense Ministry officials here would not comment on the number of aircraft involved or the value of the Iraqi deal.

However, analyst Usman Shabbir of the Pakistan Military Consortium think tank said 20 aircraft, including training and spares, are being acquired for US $94 million.

The Super Mushak, a propeller-driven, two- to three-seat aircraft, is a Pakistani version of the Swedish Saab Safari/Supporter. With some modifications, it was built under license as the MFI-17 Mushak (Proficient), and serves with Pakistan’s Air Force and Army.

It is used for primary and basic flight training; instrument, night, navigation and formation flying; liaison; and forward air control. Six under-wing hardpoints can carry a range of light rockets, bombs and gun pods.

Pakistan has exported the aircraft to Egypt, Iran, Oman, Saudi Arabia and Syria.

The Super Mushak features a more powerful 260-horsepower Textron Lycoming six-cylinder engine, electrical instrumentation, dual controls and a fuel injection system.

Twenty each are in service with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, and it is a contender for Turkey’s basic trainer program.

The aircraft “is a very good buy, considering that it has an up-rated engine and glass cockpit now. It is a proven design and will serve them well,” Shabbir said.

But overall, Shabbir said the training deal is more important.

“The [Pakistan Air Force] trained Iraqi pilots in the past, [along with Iranian pilots during the Shah’s time], and this will open up further opportunities for both countries,” he said.

The training deal is for basic pilot training and worth US $90 million. Shabbir is optimistic about further deals, such as a C4I system similar to one sold to Bangladesh, and perhaps UAVs.

Despite this success, Brian Cloughley, a former Australian defense attache to Islamabad, , said Pakistan’s ability to secure further large-scale equipment deals is uncertain.

“From all accounts, the Iraqi delegation’s visit to Pakistan went very well, and they were especially impressed by the aeronautical complex at Kamra,” he said.

However, “The problem for Pakistan, so far as provision of manufactured aircraft is concerned, is that the Iraqis have already purchased almost all they need elsewhere. The Mushak is an excellent aircraft of its type, and it is good for Pakistan that a sale has been made, but in comparative terms, there isn’t much money involved,” he added.

Even the offer of further training deals may be too late.

“Pakistan is very keen to offer training to the Iraqi Air Force, but this is already being effected in the US for pilots, and ground crew have been learning English in Jordan,” Cloughley said.

“South Korea is also training pilots for the T-50IQs being supplied, and there is some training carried out elsewhere,” he added.

The South Korean KAI T-50 Golden Eagle is an advanced trainer jet/light multirole fighter. It is being developed into the FA-50 lead-in fighter trainer/light fighter.

Though it appears the mainstay of Iraq’s airpower will be 36 F-16IQ fighter jets, the future composition of Iraq’s Air Force is uncertain, and whether the FA-50 may interest Iraq is unknown.

At the same time, Pakistan has been promoting the somewhat similar Sino-Pakistani JF-17 Thunder, and has showcased it to Iraqi officials.

Shabbir said that despite the acquisition of the T-50s, if Iraq is to opt for a high-low combination of aircraft types, Pakistan could have a chance.

Past deals indicate Pakistan could still secure some further defense sales, he said.

“Iraq has also bought armored vehicles ... from Pakistan as well, and there is a good chance of Pakistan bagging some of the small arms and ammunition [mortar and artillery] contracts,” he said.

Iraq purchased 44 Talha tracked armored personnel carriers and 60 Mohafiz internal security vehicles from Pakistan in 2006. ■

Email: uansari@defensenews.com.

Pakistan Sells Trainer Aircraft to Iraq, Seeks Further Contracts | Defense News | defensenews.com

May be PAC will further supply them with 35 more Super Mushak and 50 K-8s and around 70+ JF-17s Block-IIs.

UAVs from PAC-NESCOM-GIDS-ID


Wanted to know what HIT, POF and KS&EWs are offering them???

 

[M.AsfandYar]

hope iraq's will also purchase jf-17 thunder and k-8 trainer aircrafts from pakistan

i think K-8s belong to chinese.

 

[fatman17]

i think K-8s belong to chinese.

PAC has 25% share.

 

[fatman17]

 

[Black Eagle 90]

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Why not market it in Africa and South America

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

^ Come on ban this guy already !

 

[HAIDER]

Oman Air Force

 

[nana41]

Now that this aircraft has joined various airforces, it really deserves its own thread ... Guys, lets post related info in this stuck thread from now on
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Now that this aircraft has joined various airforces, it really deserves its own thread ... Guys, lets post related info in this stuck thread from now on
regards

Since Mushshaq(correct spellings) has been ,and will be made in big numbers,are we manufacturing the engine locally,under licence,or we lost that opportunity,like so many other.

Since Mushshaq(correct spellings) has been,and will be made in big numbers,are we manufacturing the engine locally,under licence, or we lost that opportunity as well,like some other?.

 

[nana41]

PAC has 25% share.

Since,Chinese new twin engine jet trainer has not come up to its expectations internally and `externally` ,perhaps Pakistan should tempt them into developing a stretched version of K-8(should be Q-8,Q for Quraqurum) with a small aesa radar,as a 50/50 joint venture.

 

[nana41]

Why not market it in Africa and South America

...and United States of America as well.Can we not out price the local competitor in the same class of machine?

 

[Munir]

Iraci block52 f16's will have as bvr aim7 sparrow. I think we can contribute with 36 block2 jf17 for 1/3 of the price but a real bvr...

 

[nana41]

Iraci block52 f16's will have as bvr aim7 sparrow. I think we can contribute with 36 block2 jf17 for 1/3 of the price but a real bvr...

If SD-10 Is not a real thing, what alternative is being arranged for Thunder?

 

[Luftwaffe]

If SD-10 Is not a real thing, what alternative is being arranged for Thunder?

SD-10A is real thing. More advance PL 10/13 medium/long range missile is in development.

 

[nana41]

SD-10A is real thing. More advance PL 10/13 medium/long range missile is in development.

Munir, who Is a pilot mentioned "real bvr"/42*.