Musharraf wants to create relations with Israel!

[truthseer]

This is classic taqqiya

Say what? Trade with Israel is trade with Palestinians. Besides, if we and Arab countries have good relations with Israel, the treatment of Palestinians will obviously get better and there will be less suspicions about their motive

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Id like to hear the israeli POV on the matter... israeli members should comment.

 

[StandForInsaf]

Arabs have relations with India and they never cared of us , why cant we have relations with Israel we don't have any direct conflict with them even though we are against the atrocities done by them.

 

[SQ8]

Arabs have relations with India and they never cared of us , why cant we have relations with Israel we don't have any direct conflict with them even though we are against the atrocities done by them.

That is because the Arab-Indian question has ZERO religious air about it.
Kashmir is not an arab cause.. therefore the Arab leadership is lax about it.
However.. Palestine is first an Arab cause, then its a religious cause(because it is an Arab cause)..
so therefore..no self respecting Pakistani Muslim will ever accept Israeli terror.
However this does not imply that Self-respecting Arab Muslims are supposed to give a hoot about Kashmir as a reciprocating gesture.

 

[StandForInsaf]

That is because the Arab-Indian question has ZERO religious air about it.
Kashmir is not an arab cause.. therefore the Arab leadership is lax about it.
However.. Palestine is first an Arab cause, then its a religious cause(because it is an Arab cause)..
so therefore..no self respecting Pakistani Muslim will ever accept Israeli terror.
However this does not imply that Self-respecting Arab Muslims are supposed to give a hoot about Kashmir as a reciprocating gesture.

But don't you think problems are to be solved with discussion if we don't have have any relations we cant have official talks or discussions , turky , egypt etc have diplomatic relations with israel , are we more arab then arabs or we are close minded to think above the box.

 

[Tonny]

brain of mushaaraf goes well but its hard to implement and indo-israeli ties have crossed every limit
and especially when u.s is against it

 

[SQ8]

But don't you think problems are to be solved with discussion if we don't have have any relations we cant have official talks or discussions , turky , egypt etc have diplomatic relations with israel , are we more arab then arabs or we are close minded to think above the box.

That is the answer you seek.

 

[StandForInsaf]

That is the answer you seek.

if you take it as sarcastic that second also applies .

 

[PteX]

Someone asked for an Israeli point of view, well here it is and it is quite simple:
One guy commented that Israelis hate Pakistanis. This is very untrue for the simple fact that most Israelis are unaware of Pakistanis.
If you ask an Israeli who are Israel`s enemies they would say:Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran. Or more generally, Arabs and Iran.

They would never even think of Pakistan because they so rarely hear about a country named Pakistan. You might as well say that Israelis hate Icelanders, that's how farfetched it is.

I'm for relations with Pakistan but not a cold one like the one we have with Egypt which was so recently ready to be taken over by Islamists who are already talking about not respecting the peace agreement.

 

[graphican]

Sura Al-e-Imran: 149-150.

مومنو! اگر تم کافروں کا کہا مان لو گے تو وہ تم کو الٹے پاؤں پھیر کر (مرتد ک&#1585 دیں گے پھر تم بڑے خسارے میں پڑ جاؤ گے (۱۴۹&#65279 (یہ تمہارے مددگار نہیں ہی&#1722 بلکہ خدا تمہارا مددگار ہے اور وہ سب سے بہتر مددگار ہے

Do you think Accepting Israel, the Zionist State will help Pakistan???? You are not wiser then Allah and Allah knows the best.

 

[untitled]

This is very untrue for the simple fact that most Israelis are unaware of Pakistanis.

Even with Pakistan all over the news ?

 

[PteX]

Even with Pakistan all over the news ?

Not in Israel. Here it's all about Iran at the moment. Average Israelis do not have any specific feelings towards Pakistanis.

 

[StandForInsaf]

Sura Al-e-Imran: 149-150.

مومنو! اگر تم کافروں کا کہا مان لو گے تو وہ تم کو الٹے پاؤں پھیر کر (مرتد ک&#1585 دیں گے پھر تم بڑے خسارے میں پڑ جاؤ گے (۱۴۹&#65279 (یہ تمہارے مددگار نہیں ہی&#1722 بلکہ خدا تمہارا مددگار ہے اور وہ سب سے بہتر مددگار ہے

Do you think Accepting Israel, the Zionist State will help Pakistan???? You are not wiser then Allah and Allah knows the best.

ye bato jo palastani roz mar rahi hain inko insaf or peace kasay milay ga agar hum bat hai nahi karin gay ?

 

[untitled]

You are not wiser then Allah and Allah knows the best.

How many of us in Pakistan can claim to be momins ?

 

[graphican]

No we don't need to make relationship with the worst enemies of Islam. Pakistan has lived and survived without any support from them and there is nothing which will faciliate them. Also learn what Quran says.

مومنو! اگر تم کافروں کا کہا مان لو گے تو وہ تم کو الٹے پاؤں پھیر کر (مرتد ک&#1585 دیں گے پھر تم بڑے خسارے میں پڑ جاؤ گے (۱۴۹&#65279 (یہ تمہارے مددگار نہیں ہی&#1722 بلکہ خدا تمہارا مددگار ہے اور وہ سب سے بہتر مددگار ہے