Musharraf says he brought real democracy to Pakistan

[A1Kaid]

His statement from a historical perspective does contain some truth in it. He did step down as Army Chief of Staff and he did hold elections in Pakistan. He did free up restrictions on the media and press, essential for any democracy. However, It would have been better for him to say he restored democracy in Pakistan.

 

[pkuser2k12]

PTI is missing from the list which tells the reason for this beef of yours. PTI was also Approached but they demanded 100 Seats in 2002 Elections which couldnt Granted on that Stage because PTI wasnt Capable of Getting 20 seats let alone 100 Back then so it was Democratic Decision no doubt.

marni tu gap hi hay might as well make it 272 seats 2/3 majority tu milti......

 

[batmannow]

His statement from a historical perspective does contain some truth in it. He did step down as Army Chief of Staff and he did hold elections in Pakistan. He did free up restrictions on the media and press, essential for any democracy. However, It would have been better for him to say he restored democracy in Pakistan.

Was here any, free media in Pakistan before MUSHARRAF? No
Was there any corrected local govt with so much money & power in Pakistan every?no?
so Yes, He brought the real democracacy!

 

[Gazi]

marni tu gap hi hay might as well make it 272 seats 2/3 majority tu milti......

Its not hard to understand the Reason by the timing of Imran Khan leaving Musharraf's side which was soon after 2002 Elections.

 

[pkuser2k12]

Its not hard to understand the Reason by the timing of Imran Khan leaving Musharraf's side which was soon after 2002 Elections.

the timing ? he could become pm for Musharaf regime but he declined and was on the wrong side of Musharaf ever since .

The "genius" gamer Musharaf did NRO with ppp and ditched pmlq just to remain in power but was kicked out by the likes of Zaradri government a pathetic end to say the least.

and now he is even denied to leave Pakistan just for condolence of Saudi king by the most incompitent government of Nawaz Sharif

he deserves even worst then this because he gave us "real democracy" of ppp and pmln and made Pakistan a living hell

 

[batmannow]

the timing ? he could become pm for Musharaf regime but he declined and was on the wrong side of Musharaf ever since .

The "genius" gamer Musharaf did NRO with ppp and ditched pmlq just to remain in power but was kicked out by the likes of Zaradri government a pathetic end to say the least.

and now he is even denied to leave Pakistan just for condolence of Saudi king by the most incompitent government of Nawaz Sharif

he deserves even worst then this because he gave us "real democracy" of ppp and pmln and made Pakistan a living hell

Sure by denial to MUSHARRAF to condole the dead Saudi king, has brought a close door for all of those, who will be captured, arrested, in the very near future.
PMLN & PPP were the oldest political parties, of Pakistan If He havnt have allowed them, then you are just jumping in.a bad dream, that was the chance for IMRAN to be the PM & PTI Would be the only political party in Pakistan ?
So for that you are cursing him,like a old lady? Just go ahead, it identify your political age, & shows the real material a PTI supporter is really made off?
BTW what happened to that judicial commission against, rigged elections?
Ohh, PTI. Is still saving damocrazy by participating in the Senate elections, Sure

 

[Gazi]

the timing ? he could become pm for Musharaf regime but he declined and was on the wrong side of Musharaf ever since .

The "genius" gamer Musharaf did NRO with ppp and ditched pmlq just to remain in power but was kicked out by the likes of Zaradri government a pathetic end to say the least.

and now he is even denied to leave Pakistan just for condolence of Saudi king by the most incompitent government of Nawaz Sharif

he deserves even worst then this because he gave us "real democracy" of ppp and pmln and made Pakistan a living hell

Imran Khan Prime Minister under Musharraf. What a joke anyways I would like to know when did that Happened.

He had done Agreement with BB that he would remain President but after Assassination of BB turned things on a different angle and What about PTI doesnt PTI also got Ditched by Nawaz Sharif by Participating in Elections.

Nawaz Sharif is Scared of him despite he is in no Position to do anything while on the other side Imran Khan after all his Efforts doesnt got to Scare Nawaz Sharif see the difference here.

Her we go now you have problem with Democracy when he was in charge you people had Problem with Dictatorship cant you people make up your Mind for anything. Its not his fault that PTI Boycotted the Elections and didnt Participate in real Democratic Process so it is your leader who is to Blame not Musharraf.

 

[pkuser2k12]

Sure by denial to MUSHARRAF to condole the dead Saudi king, has brought a close door for all of those, who will be captured, arrested, in the very near future.
PMLN & PPP were the oldest political parties, of Pakistan If He havnt have allowed them, then you are just jumping in.a bad dream, that was the chance for IMRAN to be the PM & PTI Would be the only political party in Pakistan ?
So for that you are cursing him,like a old lady? Just go ahead, it identify your political age, & shows the real material a PTI supporter is really made off?
BTW what happened to that judicial commission against, rigged elections?
Ohh, PTI. Is still saving damocrazy by participating in the Senate elections, Sure

zara enjoy kar lay nawaz aur sab democarzy chakh layn aur phir PTI nay hi in ka kam tamam karna hay InshAllah ab mqm tu kuch karnay say rahi aur pmln khosas and naraz pmln sindh . baki army apnay kam mayn lagi hay ....

Imran Khan Prime Minister under Musharraf. What a joke anyways I would like to know when did that Happened.

He had done Agreement with BB that he would remain President but after Assassination of BB turned things on a different angle and What about PTI doesnt PTI also got Ditched by Nawaz Sharif by Participating in Elections.

Nawaz Sharif is Scared of him despite he is in no Position to do anything while on the other side Imran Khan after all his Efforts doesnt got to Scare Nawaz Sharif see the difference here.

Her we go now you have problem with Democracy when he was in charge you people had Problem with Dictatorship cant you people make up your Mind for anything. Its not his fault that PTI Boycotted the Elections and didnt Participate in real Democratic Process so it is your leader who is to Blame not Musharraf.

Nawaz Sharif is not scared of the old man stop kidding . he is worthless even for army they just don't want to see an ex army chief in prison and this is not just for Musharaf but if it would be any x,y,z ex army chief Pak army would not let him get tried.

It is his ex position and not himself that army cares and as for Nawaz not being scared of PTI thats not true as evident that Nawaz ran to his daddy army chief to cut a deal but Imran did not accept it

if PTI did not won this round there is always next round and it is comming soon InshAllah....

 

[Gazi]

Nawaz Sharif is not scared of the old fart stop kidding . he is worthless even for army they just don't see an ex army cheif in prison and this is not just for Musharaf but if it would be any x,y,z ex army cheif Pak army would not let him get tried.

It is his ex position and not himself that army cares and as for Nawaz not being scared of PTI thats not true as evident that Nawaz ran to his daddy army chief to cut a deal but Imran did not accept it

if PTI did not won this round there is always next round and it is comming soon InshAllah....

So if Nawaz is not scared then Allowing him to visit Royal Family would have been Granted to him but everyone knows what could have happened when he got to meet Royal Family in Person given that he enjoys good Relations with Saudi Royal Family. That is why Nawaz Sharif is Scared of him.

About his Ex Army Officer gibberish of yours then he is facing Trials from same Judiciary which was against him and last time I checked no one among Army top Brass has done that before Either so if Army doesnt wants to see him in Jail then how come Army wants to see him facing Trial from Partial Judiciary who are against him ever since. You PTI supporters doesnt make any sense most of the time and this is one of them.

PTI Talks and only Talks but when it is time to walk they became Handicap all of a sudden. Its obvious what would happen PTI would create a Bubble and then Defend themselves after the Bubble got Burst. That has been Happening till now and would continue to happen in Future because your Leader is Dumb himself.

 

[pkuser2k12]

So if Nawaz is not scared then Allowing him to visit Royal Family would have been Granted to him but everyone knows what could have happened when he got to meet Royal Family in Person given that he enjoys good Relations with Saudi Royal Family. That is why Nawaz Sharif is Scared of him.

About his Ex Army Officer gibberish of yours then he is facing Trials from same Judiciary which was against him and last time I checked no one among Army top Brass has done that before Either so if Army doesnt wants to see him in Jail then how come Army wants to see him facing Trial from Partial Judiciary who are against him ever since. You PTI supporters doesnt make any sense most of the time and this is one of them.

PTI Talks and only Talks but when it is time to walk they became Handicap all of a sudden. Its obvious what would happen PTI would create a Bubble and then Defend themselves after the Bubble got Burst. That has been Happening till now and would continue to happen in Future because your Leader is Dumb himself.

chotay bachay ye video game nahi hay if Musharaf had meet with saudi royal family then world would have turned upside down for nawaz etc etc

the saudi crooks are more in bed with nawaz as he is selling Pakistan to these Arabs 2 number lng sales giving eimrates qatar air lines PIA routes selling PIA planes to them in pennies flight of looted money of pmln and company to saudi countries etc etc

as for the hostile judges they know there "auqat" and will not do any more then one liner observation in musharafs case the point is they know there limit as army backs there ex chief and so called joke trial is for pubic eyes ....

PTI kay hath say hi iss government ka end likha hay InshAllah ab altaf and target killer company tu kuch karnay say rahi

army is busy otherwise if not nawaz would have been gone home long ago.

 

[Gazi]

chotay bachay ye video game nahi hay if Musharaf had meet with saudi royal family then world would have turned upside down for nawaz etc etc

the saudi crooks are more in bed with nawaz as he is selling Pakistan to these Arabs 2 number lng sales giving eimrates qatar air lines PIA routes selling PIA planes to them in pennies flight of looted money of pmln and company to saudi countries etc etc

as for the hostile judges they know there "auqat" and will not do any more then one liner observation in musharafs case the point is they know there limit as army backs there ex chief and so called joke trial is for pubic eyes ....

PTI kay hath say hi iss government ka end likha hay InshAllah ab altaf and target killer company tu kuch karnay say rahi

army is busy otherwise if not nawaz would have been gone home long ago.

Barhay Bhai both Nawaz and Musharraf have good Relations with Royal Family and in Current scenario Musharraf is more Trust Worthy then Nawaz Sharif for Saudis.

If Musharraf comes to equation then things are different with Royal Family because during Musharraf he never BEGGED Royal Family for Free Oil instead he Bought them with Payment and that means he is more PROFITABLE for Saudis then Nawaz Sharif and that means he have more Credibility among Royal Family then Nawaz Sharif.

If Army was so Interested in saving Musharraf then even this Trial would have been Avoided and he wanst on Bail from Court rather he was Walking Freely so your whole logic just got Wrong right here.

PTI nay itnay Hath maray hain pechlay 2 saal say k ab tak yeh bhi Bhool Chukay hongay k kahan kahan hath mar Chukay hain lakin Hukomat Joon ki toon kharhi hai ab tu Imran Khan bhi Mayus hukay Senate Election ki Tayyariyan Kara raha hai PTI ki ab bacha hi kuch nahi hai PTI k pass Nawaz Hukomat k Khilaf karnay ko.

Army isnt interested anymore because he has already Given everything he got to Army itself now its Army which is running the Show so they want to keep Status Quo instead of Creating Complicated situation where their is a probability of their roles are Questioned. Another thing is Army wont prefer Imran Khan at this time due to his Confused Stance on Taliban and NWA Operation.

 

[pkuser2k12]

Barhay Bhai both Nawaz and Musharraf have good Relations with Royal Family and in Current scenario Musharraf is more Trust Worthy then Nawaz Sharif for Saudis.

If Musharraf comes to equation then things are different with Royal Family because during Musharraf he never BEGGED Royal Family for Free Oil instead he Bought them with Payment and that means he is more PROFITABLE for Saudis then Nawaz Sharif and that means he have more Credibility among Royal Family then Nawaz Sharif.

If Army was so Interested in saving Musharraf then even this Trial would have been Avoided and he wanst on Bail from Court rather he was Walking Freely so your whole logic just got Wrong right here.

PTI nay itnay Hath maray hain pechlay 2 saal say k ab tak yeh bhi Bhool Chukay hongay k kahan kahan hath mar Chukay hain lakin Hukomat Joon ki toon kharhi hai ab tu Imran Khan bhi Mayus hukay Senate Election ki Tayyariyan Kara raha hai PTI ki ab bacha hi kuch nahi hai PTI k pass Nawaz Hukomat k Khilaf karnay ko.

Army isnt interested anymore because he has already Given everything he got to Army itself now its Army which is running the Show so they want to keep Status Quo instead of Creating Complicated situation where their is a probability of their roles are Questioned. Another thing is Army wont prefer Imran Khan at this time due to his Confused Stance on Taliban and NWA Operation.

the powerful army came to a level where they had to cut a deal with nawaz during dharna because nawaz was under pressure and agreed to give army the wheel otherwise he would not have agreed

army is happy that they are given full control of war on terror while nawaz and zardari are plundering federal,punjab and sindh govs which is equally devistating like terrorism but army doesn't care knowing judes are bikau to nawaz and zardari .what a strategy


and as for PTI not comming to power establishment should just let free and fair election to be conducted and then we will see who public wants.

pehlay deal kartay hayn ppp aur pmln jeson say altaf jeson ko paltay hayn phir apna sar martay hay diwar mayn army walay k ye kia kiya hum nay...

 

[Gazi]

the powerful army came to a level where they had to cut a deal with nawaz during dharna because nawaz was under pressure and agreed to give army the wheel otherwise he would not have agreed

army is happy that they are given full control of war on terror while nawaz and zardari are plundering federal,punjab and sindh govs which is equally devistating like terrorism but army doesn't care knowing judes are bikau to nawaz and zardari .what a strategy


and as for PTI not comming to power establishment should just let free and fair election to be conducted and then we will see who public wants.

pehlay deal kartay hayn ppp aur pmln jeson say altaf jeson ko paltay hayn phir apna sar martay hay diwar mayn army walay k ye kia kiya hum nay...

Now since they had Already cut a deal so they wont be aiding Imran Khan anymore because they have the driving seat.

Imran Khan's Confused Stances on Taliban and War on Terror would be an unfavorable option for Army to have him around. For Army currently Its better to have Nawaz and Zardari under pressure then have Confused Imran so hard luck for Imran on that one. Regarding their Corruption then If Imran Khan wasnt being to immature to have Soft Corner for Taliban or Confused Stance on Army Activities in FATA then this wouldnt have Happened. Imran Khan himself is to Blame in this situation.

The whole Election Scenario before 2018 is long gone now things are turning Backwards here and Imran Khan also Understands that as the reason for Participating in Senate Elections does give this message Laud and Clear in fact now he has to deal with all the Criticizm that if whole Parliament is illegal then how come Senate would be legal.

Imran Khan nay kia fauj say Deal karnay ki Koshish nahi ki zindagi mai?Musharraf say 100 mangi thin Imran Khan sahab nay us waqt jab unki Auqat 20 ki nahi thi. Jab PTI ka leader itna Ahmaq huga tu is mai Army ki kia Ghalti hai yeh tu PTI ku khud khiyal hona Chahiye.

 

[pkuser2k12]

Now since they had Already cut a deal so they wont be aiding Imran Khan anymore because they have the driving seat.

Imran Khan's Confused Stances on Taliban and War on Terror would be an unfavorable option for Army to have him around. For Army currently Its better to have Nawaz and Zardari under pressure then have Confused Imran so hard luck for Imran on that one. Regarding their Corruption then If Imran Khan wasnt being to immature to have Soft Corner for Taliban or Confused Stance on Army Activities in FATA then this wouldnt have Happened. Imran Khan himself is to Blame in this situation.

The whole Election Scenario before 2018 is long gone now things are turning Backwards here and Imran Khan also Understands that as the reason for Participating in Senate Elections does give this message Laud and Clear in fact now he has to deal with all the Criticizm that if whole Parliament is illegal then how come Senate would be legal.

Imran Khan nay kia fauj say Deal karnay ki Koshish nahi ki zindagi mai?Musharraf say 100 mangi thin Imran Khan sahab nay us waqt jab unki Auqat 20 ki nahi thi. Jab PTI ka leader itna Ahmaq huga tu is mai Army ki kia Ghalti hai yeh tu PTI ku khud khiyal hona Chahiye.

deal karni hoti tu musharaf k under pm lag jata imran yan raheel sharif ki mediation mann layta

as for nawaz is under pressure and is right for army thats the most stupid thing i have heard .on the one hand army is trying to eliminate ttp and likes of altaf and other target killers by being in driving seat and at the same time nawaz and company has doubled our 65 year loan and is now ready to sell every single state institution and is sucking the life from farmers and industrialists

what will be left if he is given 5 years ? nothing .PTI has the chance and will begin there campaign again and army cant stop people from coming after PTI like before so this deal deal b/w army and pmln can not work because Pakistan is for sale and pmln has to be stopped

either step in or someone else will this physco deal can not work army apni madad apnay pas rakhay aur free election honay daay aur ppp,pmln,mqm aur anp etc etc types Pakistan pay musalat na karay...

 

[Gazi]

deal karni hoti tu musharaf k under pm lag jata imran yan raheel sharif ki mediation mann layta

as for nawaz is under pressure and is right for army thats the most stupid thing i have heard .on the one hand army is trying to eliminate ttp and likes of altaf and other target killers by being in driving seat and at the same time nawaz and company has doubled our 65 year loan and is now ready to sell every single state institution and is sucking the life from farmers and industrialists

what will be left if he is given 5 years ? nothing .PTI has the chance and will begin there campaign again and army cant stop people from coming after PTI like before so this deal deal b/w army and pmln can not work because Pakistan is for sale and pmln has to be stopped

either step in or someone else will this physco deal can not work army apni madad apnay pas rakhay aur free election honay daay aur ppp,pmln,mqm aur anp etc etc types Pakistan pay musalat na karay...

Aur jaisay k Musharraf Imran Khan ko PM bana bhi daita. Kia baat ki hai bhai us waqt Imran Khan k 10 seatain Jeetnay wanday thay inko PM Lagaya jai. Isay Kehtay hain "Baatain Karhoroon ki aur Dukaan Pakurhoon ki".

Nawaz got Under Pressure from all Side not just Army but Army was able to Capitalize the situation and made a move that Imran Khan himself gave Opportunity to. Now since they are in Charge so they have everything at their disposal to do be it Operation against TTP or against MQM Target Killers. Nawaz is unchallenged right now because he got Army on his side now and the only reason why Imran Khan has been Ignored is because of his Confused stance on TTP Terrorists which proved to be DISTRACTION if Army Helped Imran Khan so PTI supporters cant complain on that it was lost opportunity for Imran Khan because of his own Foolishness caused him.

Agar Army nay Election karai tu Free and Fair hi Hongay jaisay Musharraf k Daur mai Free and Fair Election huway thay lakin PTI bohay Kamzoor Huchuki hai ab k koi Challenge daisakay kisi Party ko kyun k PTI k pass ab tak Dharnoon aur Jalsoon k ilawa Kuch nahi hai Dikhanay ko agar yehi Paisay jo Dharnay aur Jalsoon mai lagai KPK pay lagata tu ajj KPK Naya KPK ban chuka hota magar kia karain akhir Point Scoring bhi tu Karni hai PTI nay uskay Baghair Reh bhi nahi sakti.