Musharraf 're-arrested' over Lal Masjid operation.

[W.11]

good for his security. he is a liability !

so is imran khan

 

[W.11]

A constitution which he initially violated by his takeover. In essence, you and I did not put him into office. His decisions for the fate of 140 million Pakistanis were his alone and you and I had no say in him being in that position to make those. Hence, he is much more so accountable as compared to say the Sharifs or the Bhuttos who were still essentially brought into office by the votes of Pakistanis.

a strange thing as the guy musharraf upholded the constitution more so and strengthened democracy by freeing the media, by introducing the local government its strange but true dear

technically musharraf was appointed by the civilian government so musharraf decisions do represent 140 million pakistanis and time proved it as well

musharraf took action when shareef abandoned the constitution and ordered to kill musharraf by not allowing his pane to land in Pakistan, this was the blunder made by nawaz shareef and not Musharraf so i don't hold against musharraf for his actions at all

it was the need of time and the economy was sinking too just like today


so in short musharraf's decision got more approval of the pakistanis then say sharif's deciions now a day

 

[Thorough Pro]

nad if you have not forgotten, MQM was very much part of that very government.

a strange thing as the guy musharraf upholded the constitution more so and strengthened democracy by freeing the media, by introducing the local government its strange but true dear

technically musharraf was appointed by the civilian government so musharraf decisions do represent 140 million pakistanis and time proved it as well

musharraf took action when shareef abandoned the constitution and ordered to kill musharraf by not allowing his pane to land in Pakistan, this was the blunder made by nawaz shareef and not Musharraf so i don't hold against musharraf for his actions at all

it was the need of time and the economy was sinking too just like today


so in short musharraf's decision got more approval of the pakistanis then say sharif's deciions now a day

 

[W.11]

Punjab Assembly:

LAHORE:
The opposition in the Punjab Assembly has demanded that the government adopt a local government system similar to that introduced by Gen (r) Pervez Musharraf in 2001 rather than the “1861 throwback” proposed under the Punjab Local Government Bill of 2013.
The demand was made during Monday’s Punjab Assembly sitting, after Speaker Sher Ali Gorchani set aside the routine agenda of the day so members could discuss the bill tabled in the assembly last Friday.
Members of the opposition Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf criticised the proposed new system as too weak and open to interference from the provincial government and bureaucrats.
Devolution
Muhammad Siddique Khan of the PTI said the bill went against the spirit of Article 140A, which required provincial governments to “devolve political, administrative and financial authority and responsibility to the elected representatives of local governments”. The bill outlined less a local government system and more a local bodies system, he added.
He said that the description of the proposed new system as corporate was flawed. A corporate body was supposed to be autonomous, where elected representatives like mayors regulated laws while public functionaries like DCOs performed their duties under those laws. While the 2001 local government system made the DCO accountable to the district nazim, the new bill made the DCO the principal accounting officer.
He said Local Government Minister Rana Sanaullah’s claim that the new bill was aimed at stopping the corruption under the old system was “rubbish”. The old system provided for the audit of local governments by the auditor general and the PA Public Accounts Committee, while the new bill provided for a Provincial Local Government Commission led by the minister to conduct the audits. The former system contained more appropriate checks, he said.
The new system would provide fewer reserved seats for women and labourers than the previous system, he said, and was thus a violation of Article 32, which states that the government must give “special representation to peasants, workers and women”. The bill also went against Clauses 9, 10, 29 and 3 of the Charter of Democracy calling for local elections on a party basis within three months of general elections, he added.
Khan said that the Punjab government was trying to revive the system introduced by the British in 1861 which empowered the bureaucracy. The system introduced by Gen Musharraf was better. “Even if it was a dictator who came up with something good, it should be adopted,” he added.
Toothless mayors
Mian Aslam Iqbal of the PTI said that the mayors under the new system would be toothless and reduced to protocol officers for the government. In the provincial capital, the chief minister would retain the authority to appoint the heads of the LDA, Tepa, PHA, LWMC, LTC, LPC, Punjab Food Authority, Rescue 1122, the Walled City of Lahore Authority and the district education and health authorities. The chief minister would also be able to suspend the mayor, deputy mayor and chairmen as he pleased.
The bill used the word “prescribed” excessively, he said, which meant that after it was passed, the bureaucracy would formulate a set of laws giving themselves greater control. The bill was also silent about how deputy mayors would be elected in case of no-confidence moves against chairmen or mayors.
Iqbal noted that the ward system had been introduced in 1979, replaced with union councils in 2001, and was now to be reintroduced. This was unnecessarily confusing, he said. There were 150 seats for non-Muslims in the previous system, but now there would be only 10 per district, he added.
Urban-rural divide
Murad Ras of the PTI said that the bill provided for different systems for rural and urban areas. Since there were more tax opportunities in urban areas, this would inevitably lead to urban areas getting more facilities and rural areas being deprived.
He said that the question of delimitation of union councils was too sensitive a matter to be left to the government. This should be done on the basis of population, he said.
The indirect election of mayors, deputy mayors, chairmen and vice chairmen would promote horse trading. The heads of district health and education authorities would be appointed by the provincial government, meaning they would act on their agenda rather than on local interests, he said.
Ras noted that the Punjab Local Government Commission would have just one elected member, with the rest being government appointees. The bill provides for local bodies, not local governments, he said.
Consultations
Sanaullah, the local government minister, said that the government aimed to pass the bill with consensus and was open to suggestions from all sides. He asked the opposition members to send in their opinions on whether the local elections should be held on a party or non-party basis, or whether their could be party-based elections for the upper tier of local government and non-party polls for the lower tier, on the division of urban and rural areas, and other issues. The opposition’s input would be taken up in the house or by the 12-member special committee on local governments.
Normal assembly proceedings will resume on Wednesday morning, after Tuesday’s presidential elections.
Published in The Express Tribune, July 30th, 2013.

this is by PTI own fan boys

 

[W.11]

 

[W.11]

so called champions of democracy


Zulfeqar ali bhutto with dictator

nawaz shareef with a dictator

imran khan with dictator

 

[batmannow]

Exactly, the problem started with Ayub who was responsible for derailing the constitutional formation in the first place. From the get go the man engineered his rise to power. But then, one could say the musical chairs farce that was Pakistani governance in the early days(due to people like Daulatana and others) was worse. However, there are more narratives that implicate Ayub in framing events like the Rawalpindi conspiracy.



And therefore there are provisions in the state law to hold Nawaz Sharif accountable. At worst, this was what Musharraf could have done to actually fix Pakistan was put Nawaz on trial instead of bowing to the Saudis and letting him go while holding immediate elections. But then, who are we to judge men of character.

IHC rejects petition to add Musharraf's name to ECL - DAWN.COM
for your soar eyes only!
dont drink coffee to much!

 

[RuheTag]

Yeah, as though terrorists started their activities after his arrest only..........People will remember Mushy for giving terrorism to Pakistana nd allowing drone attacks on Pakistani people (first ever Pakistani president to allow such a coward act). He proved the Washington post cartoon in which he (mushy)9 was shown as US's loyal dog.

ok, go to hell and Keep getting slaughtered by your 'own people'.

 

[batmannow]

IHC rejects petition to add Musharraf's name to ECL
DAWN.COM
IHC rejects petition to add Musharraf's name to ECL - DAWN.COM
Updated
2013-10-11 12:32:08


ISLAMABAD: The Islamabad High Court rejected a petition submitted by Haroon Rasheed Ghazi, a son of the slain Lal Masjid cleric Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi, which sought to add Musharraf’s name to the Exit Control List, DawnNews reported.

The court said that the former president was already under custody of police adding that it was the Interior Ministry's responsibility to add names to the ECL.

Earlier, the bench led by acting Chief Justice of the IHC Justice Riaz Ahmed Khan while adjourning the hearing had reserved its judgment.

In his petition Ghazi had claimed that the Aabpara police station in Islamabad was investigating Musharraf for ordering the Lal Masjid operation in 2007, and therefore he should be barred from leaving the country as the former dictator may not return again if he was allowed to leave .

Earlier during the day, an Islamabad sessions court hearing the Lal Masjid cleric's murder case had rejected the request of Islamabad police seeking physical remand of former president Gen (r) Pervez Musharraf.

Police had submitted a request seeking five-day-remand of the former dictator over the case pertaining to the alleged murder of cleric Ghazi Abdul Rasheed and his wife during the Lal Masjid military operation.

The bench hearing the case rejected the police request saying that the remand could not be granted without producing the accused in court.

Police had registered a case against Musharraf last month after receiving an order from the Islamabad High Court over the murder of the Abdul Rashid Ghazi during the 2007 Lal Masjid operation.

Earlier on Thursday Pakistan’s former military ruler General (retd) Pervez Musharraf was arrested in Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) killing case just hours after submitting surety bonds in the Supreme Court.

The bonds were submitted in connection to the three other major cases pending against the former president, namely the Benazir Bhutto murder case, judges' detention case and the Nawab Akbar Bugti murder case.

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[Panther 57]

@batmannow @RuheTag
Those who support Lal Masjid Clerics should know that Ghazi Rahseed fired three shot on the SSG officer who wanted to arrest him. After that the officer fired one bullet right in the middle of forehead. The officer is still alive and had to go for advance surgeries to save his life. He is still serving with postural defects.

Media is misleading people on this issue.

 

[batmannow]

@batmannow @RuheTag
Those who support Lal Masjid Clerics should know that Ghazi Rahseed fired three shot on the SSG officer who wanted to arrest him. After that the officer fired one bullet right in the middle of forehead. The officer is still alive and had to go for advance surgeries to save his life. He is still serving with postural defects.

Media is misleading people on this issue.

not only that, but he can be seen having SMG on his shoulders, in the videos, thorughout on whole media!
no questions , needed to be answered , they desereve this?
http://dawn.com/news/1048800/bomb-blasts-kill-10-in-all-four-provinces
thats the pakistan they wanted, they hve got that!

offtopic!
just check enemy fire on me since last night, even the heavy duty guns brought & fired on me, but i am still, alive!
commander, dont sleep longer enough, in your bunkers!

 

[Panther 57]

Don't care who is doing what, did you know Former Turkish Army Chief gets life sentence to prison for planning coup plot and you still think mush is innocent. If you think Military coup is legal than declare constitutional monarchy. Coup, planning coup, martial law, arrest of CJP [forget who CJ is lets discuss arrest], suspending Constitution of Pakistan, imposing emergency twice, double NRO, you people are severely handicapped mentally to think everything done was normal..

A portion from my post on Kayani retirement thread

Mush did not take over the government. It was the government which took an unethical and unconstitutional step to remove him, which set corp commanders into action. Mush was given the coup on the platter.

Why NS could not wait for few hours to dismiss Mush? What was so much hurry?

Again first hand information. The plane carrying sitting COAS was asked to divert to Ahmedabad because it could only go to either Bander Abbas or Ahmedabad. Bander Abbas does not have sufficient night landing facility, so the only option was Ahmedabad. Captain sent across a message to Mush on which he replied over my dead body. I am sure that the conversation which took place between captain with ATC is on record along with communication between Chief and Corp Commander.

Do you know how big an act of treason is this? NS was rightly sentenced for hijacking the aircraft of COAS.

These politicians and media are being paid to malign PA. And our star plus addicts buy these rhetoric.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...l-kayani-decides-retire-12.html#ixzz2hOzkwqIw

 

[BATMAN]

Grand Mosque Seizure - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

May be cheap justice of Pakistan and PTI shall register FIR against PM, for his role in Grand Mosque operation too.

 

[SQ8]

IHC rejects petition to add Musharraf's name to ECL - DAWN.COM
for your soar eyes only!
dont drink coffee to much!

Yes, the eyes do soar. Soar like an eagle. And no, coffee drinking is usually in moderation with no more than one cup every two days or as needed.

P.S I thought you dont like the constitution?It is a product of democracy. while the IHC is a tool to interpret the constitution and law.

 

[MrShabi2010]

It is interesting that the courts released those, who had turned the mosque into an ammunition depot,but arrested the person who acted against them. Musharraf took a number of wrong steps during his tenure,but this one was definitely not.

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