Musharraf predicts PMLN and PPP to win 2018 election

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

Look who is talking. Musharraf shut your shit hole. We aren't interested in you anymore. This bastard gave power to all the anti Pakistan parties, be it MQM or ANP. Later on, he screwed PML (Q) and went for NRO. Q league tried its best but this sucker ditched them. What a shame Mushy. The people who supported you, you ditched them and went for under the table deal with Noora and BB. You've gotten what you deserved. Keep on barking stupid a$$.

 

[Syed Mukkarram]

How mush can help Imran to win elections, infact mush joining pti will loose more vote to pti because mush haters are more, n mush has nothing to offer, i mean how many MNA's and MPA's mush has. zero plus zero equals to zero...

 

[BATMAN]

Too late mushy, you had the opportunity when you were in power to do something to cleanse Pakistan of these leeches but instead you gave Pakistan NRO.

NRO was given because of the pressure of All Parties Democratic Alliance.
Democracy lovers should dance now.
While PPP was voted by same public, who now surf on PTI waters.
When United PTI-PMLN-PPP use to shout .. go Musharraf go back than PPP and PMLN were counted in angels.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

I would like the opposite. IK doesn't seem like a man with a plan. Mushy would be an amazing PM for Pakistan and IK a great foreign minister since he already has a good image abroad.

I would say the other way around, IK as PM due to his vision and reputation, with Musharraf as interior or finance minister since he handled those things somewhat well in his time. That way IK acts as a check on Musharrafs authoritative nature, and Musharraf can use his experience to guide IK as PM.

Musharrafs achievements in power were overshadowed by far more failures, so I dont think he should be elevated to that kind of power again. Besides that Pakistan needs someone new in the driving seat, someone that is not a part of the previous establishment.

 

[Syed1.]

Mush should keep his opinion to himself.

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

NRO was given because of the pressure of All Parties Democratic Alliance.
Democracy lovers should dance now.

Yes, that is correct. All political parties had set an alliance to overpower Mushy, however, what parties we're talking about? Still there were parties that stood along Mushy before he chickened out and went for NRO. MQM was with him and against NRO. ANP supported Mushy. The biggest support came from the then ruling party Q league. When he signed NRO and rigged the elections to defeat the Q league leaders that opposed NRO, thst was the time when Q league had fragmented and Noora benefited from it a lot.
NRO was primarily with BB and Noora. Other parties didn't get anything from it. Corruption cases against PPPP and Hijack of PIA aircraft were abandoned. The same leaders outwitted Mushy and fucked him.

 

[BATMAN]

I would say the other way around, IK as PM due to his vision and reputation, with Musharraf as interior or foreign minister. That way IK acts as a check on Musharrafs authoritative nature, and Musharraf can use his experience to guide IK as PM.

Musharrafs achievements in power were overshadowed by far more failures, so I dont think he should be elevated to that kind of power again. Besides that Pakistan needs someone new in the driving seat, someone that is not a part of the previous establishment.

Please share with me vision of IK.
Actually every time he opens mouth and maneuver, it reflects ultra lack of vision.
When TuQ told him about election commission and invited him to join long march, he stood aside.. just to save PPP govt.

Yes, that is correct. All political parties had set an alliance to overpower Mushy, however, what parties we're talking about? Still there were parties that stood along Mushy before he chickened out and went for NRO. MQM was with him and against NRO. ANP supported Mushy. The biggest support came from the then ruling party Q league. When he signed NRO and rigged the elections to defeat the Q league leaders that opposed NRO, thst was the time when Q league had fragmented and Noora benefited from it a lot.
NRO was primarily with BB and Noora. Other parties didn't get anything from it. Corruption cases against PPPP and Hijack of PIA aircraft were abandoned. The same leaders outwitted Mushy and fucked him.

What we know from Musharraf he initiated NRO with good will and he consulted politicians.
Pressure was international, this is why all meetings of Pakistan political parties were held in UK. This never happened in history.
Still NRO doesn't automatically means, they are fit for parliament and presidency.
It was election, where IK refused to participate.... otherwise instead of PPP and PMLN it would be PMLQ and PTI in power!

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

What we know from Musharraf he initiated NRO with good will and he consulted politicians.
Pressure was international, this is why all meetings of Pakistan political parties were held in UK. This never happened in history.

Yes, it is correct. BB had said internationally that she'll coordinate with NATO forces operating out of Kabul to solve the terrorism problem. She was backed by US as well as UK. US took Mushy as a crook who was playing double game so they wanted him replaced. They all backed BB and Noora held the pallu of BB to return into the politics. BB helped Noora a lot. They agreed we'll play 5 years term on an alternative basis.

 

[BATMAN]

Yes, it is correct. BB had said internationally that she'll coordinate with NATO forces operating out of Kabul to solve the terrorism problem. She was backed by US as well as UK. US took Mushy as a crook who was playing double game so they wanted him replaced. They all backed BB and Noora held the pallu of BB to return into the politics. BB helped Noora a lot. They agreed we'll play 5 years term on an alternative basis.

At the time of NRO, I didn't heard any complains from a single politician about NRO.
Speaking of today, even Musharraf regret it.

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

Still NRO doesn't automatically means, they are fit for parliament and presidency.
It was election, where IK refused to participate.... otherwise instead of PPP and PMLN it would be PMLQ and PTI in power!

I'll disagree here. Imran Khan back then wasn't politically sound. No one would have voted PPP and PMLN out for Imran Khan. Q league had a genuine chance to lead again but the problem was all leaders who opposed NRO were thrown out of the parliament. Chaudhary's started to lose control of the party as they couldn't get clear majority and victorious candidate knew they won't get ministries so they started leaving it. Hence, Q league was totally annihilated courtesy of Mushy urf payja.
Imran won't have gained enough ground back then politically even if he had participated. He had a great chance to do something incredible in terms of energy as well as economy in KPK provincial assembly which he hasn't yet. Looks difficult for him to get anything out of 2018 election until and unless JIT gives a clear verdict against Noora.

At the time of NRO, I didn't heard any complains from a single politician about NRO.
Speaking of today, even Musharraf regret it.

Q league leaders had advised Mushy many a times not to go for it. They couldn;t say it openly as Mushy was still an ally. He ditched them in 2008 elections and from that point onward they did talk negative of NRO. Sujahat Hussain, Sheikh Rasheed, Mushahid Hussain Syed as well as Pervaiz Elahi who had won one seat out of 2 or 3 he contested for had talked very negative of NRO.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Please share with me vision of IK.
Actually every time he opens mouth and maneuver, it reflects ultra lack of vision.
When TuQ told him about election commission and invited him to join long march, he stood aside.. just to save PPP govt.

He is not great in the politics game I admit, but that game is complicated and dirty and unless your willing to do horrible things then you wont get far. His statements, transparency, and idealism for Pakistans future is why I think he would make a great PM. You can see this in his interviews, speeches, and even social media, that he is passionate for Pakistan to progress.

If you need something a bit more concrete, he made this statement around 5 years ago and even today it still rings true:

“Quaid-i-Azam’s vision was of a Pakistan that would be an Islamic welfare state. While he had fought for a homeland for the Muslims of India, he was acutely conscious of the rights of every citizen irrespective of their caste or creed.


Are we an Islamic welfare state? The answer is clearly in the negative. In the last 65 years the gap between the rich and the poor has widened. This is also reflected in the disparity in access to fundamental social services.


While private schools provide quality education to the children of the elite, the poor have no access to education or struggle through poorly funded government schools. The same story is repeated in health services. The development sector’s priorities are skewed towards the elite through investment in projects that cater to them, such as motorways and ring roads.


We are also far from the Quaid’s vision of a tolerant society where everyone’s beliefs would be respected. The upsurge in sectarian violence and targeting of minority communities is a huge departure from the kind of society Jinnah envisioned.”


- Imran Khan, chairman, Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf

I admit he is not perfect, and there is a lot I disagree with him on, but Pakistan literally has no alternative. You should support him because if Pakistan elects Nawaz or Zardari again, then it will be near impossible for the country to ever make something of itself. Even if you still have personal dislike for him, if he makes it then his success would inspire other visionaries to jump into the world of politics and give us more choices in the future than Bhutto, Sharif, or Dictatorship.

 

[BATMAN]

He is not great in the politics game I admit, but that game is complicated and dirty and unless your willing to do horrible things then you wont get far. His statements, transparency, and idealism for Pakistans future is why I think he would make a great PM. You can see this in his interviews, speeches, and even social media, that he is passionate for Pakistan to progress.

If you need something a bit more concrete, he made this statement around 5 years ago and even today it still rings true:

“Quaid-i-Azam’s vision was of a Pakistan that would be an Islamic welfare state. While he had fought for a homeland for the Muslims of India, he was acutely conscious of the rights of every citizen irrespective of their caste or creed.


Are we an Islamic welfare state? The answer is clearly in the negative. In the last 65 years the gap between the rich and the poor has widened. This is also reflected in the disparity in access to fundamental social services.


While private schools provide quality education to the children of the elite, the poor have no access to education or struggle through poorly funded government schools. The same story is repeated in health services. The development sector’s priorities are skewed towards the elite through investment in projects that cater to them, such as motorways and ring roads.


We are also far from the Quaid’s vision of a tolerant society where everyone’s beliefs would be respected. The upsurge in sectarian violence and targeting of minority communities is a huge departure from the kind of society Jinnah envisioned.”


- Imran Khan, chairman, Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf

I admit he is not perfect, and there is a lot I disagree with him on, but Pakistan literally has no alternative. You should support him because if Pakistan elects Nawaz or Zardari again, then it will be near impossible for the country to ever make something of itself. Even if you still have personal dislike for him, if he makes it then his success would inspire other visionaries to jump into the world of politics and give us more choices in the future than Bhutto, Sharif, or Dictatorship.

Why I don't like him:
He divided the opposition. He showed ultra lack of basic politics, when he announced boycott in 2008 elections.
He very well could have been PM today, but reality is he will never be PM unless US want him in power.
He has no policy, no plan and according to rules of life... no plan=plan to fail. He will surely sink Pakistan.

Why I don't want him PM:
According to Pakistan's current law PM is has dictatorial powers. Such may be good in sane hands, which he's not.
He will surely hurt Pakistan from point of no return and will blame it on Army.
Either 18th amendment is re-introduced or NS continue, at least he remain unpopular and under pressure.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

He is right about PML(N) and PPP

PML(N) will sweep in Punjab and PPP as usual in Sindh.

Imran khan will win on PDF and facebook by huge margin

 

[Syed Mukkarram]

Yes, that is correct. All political parties had set an alliance to overpower Mushy, however, what parties we're talking about? Still there were parties that stood along Mushy before he chickened out and went for NRO. MQM was with him and against NRO. ANP supported Mushy. The biggest support came from the then ruling party Q league. When he signed NRO and rigged the elections to defeat the Q league leaders that opposed NRO, thst was the time when Q league had fragmented and Noora benefited from it a lot.
NRO was primarily with BB and Noora. Other parties didn't get anything from it. Corruption cases against PPPP and Hijack of PIA aircraft were abandoned. The same leaders outwitted Mushy and fucked him.

I want to interfere in the debate. NRO was definitely signed between Mush and ppp but it was done to help PMLN (nawaz). the very reason why army allowed nawaz to come back because they want PPP out from the race and push PMLN to made government with the help q league but BB assassination changes the plan. It was obvious that why mush destroying his own q league, but not for the sake of PPP no way but only helping PMLN. Now we have a question why Mush tried to help Nawaz? it was because security establishment thinks that BB was a security risk and Nawaz was a pro pakistan and we have seen how our establishment ridiculed PPP under Zardari and paved ways for nawaz to win elections. and if you saw the outcomes of the result of 2013 you come to realise now that PTI cuts PPP votes and nothing else. And Mush knows that and that is why he is now saying that PMLN will form government again because he knows the game and he was part of the plan. PPP also knows that and for the sake of shutting their mouth Sindh was handover to them and will handover to them, if you look at the sindh, Functional league which is always part of establishment their politicians resigning Functional league and joining PPP because they knows the plan. Some of the politicians who are very close to establishment are Ismail rahu (Ex PML), Imtiaz shaikh(Big political figure of functional league) and jam family of sanghar joins PPP. they were always oppose PPP under the establishment umbrella. Breaking of MQM was a must case because current census would make sure that karachi and hyderabads population will be higher and so that they have a higher number of seats compared to interior sindh so MQM could have a good chance to win in Sindh and so they decided to broke the mqm.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Someone needs to smack Imran Khan. If anyone can do it it'll be this Commando.