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Musharraf's fans are dying for him and he is enjoying his life in London.

Musharraf plays tabla at London concert

Age Correspondent

Islamabad

Aug. 2: Former Pakistan military ruler Pervez Musharraf has started playing tabla in London — where he might stay in exile for years, a British parliamentarian said.

"I heard him play tabla myself. It was during a (recent) music show in London," Lord Nazir Ahmed, a member of the British House of Lords, told a group of journalists here at a reception. Lord Ahmed, who has seriously taken up with the British government the issue of providing extraordinary security to Pervez Musharraf, said that two guards always accompany the former dictator even when he goes to attend private music functions arranged for him by his friends in London.

According to Lord Ahmed, Mr Musharraf was recently invited as chief guest to a music show where he felt that the "tabla nawaz" (drum beater) accompanying the singer had gone out of rhythm.

Dissatisfied, rather irritated, by tabla performer’s odd beats, the former military ruler himself jumped to the stage and entertained the audience with the "best of beats" his agile fingers could extract, Lord Ahmed said. Back home, on Friday, Pakistan’s Supreme Court declared the imposition of emergency and subsequent sacking of judges by Pervez Musharraf on November 3, 2007 as illegal, unconstitutional and ultra-constitutional. Mr Musharraf is the only among several Pakistan dictators to face such embarrassment after losing power.

Mr Musharraf had imposed emergency in the country on November 3, 2007 and sacked over 60 judges of the superior judiciary. He had to however, quit under immense political pressure in August 2008.

British media reports suggest Mr Musharraf will stay in exile in the United Kingdom.

Saudi Arabia has also offered political asylum to Pervez Musharraf.
 
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@ Khalids... Have you not seen Lord Nazir dancing naked when Musharraf was playing tabla!

We know the moral history of both Sharif and Zardari , as well.
 
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But I could not understand why he did not defend his case. He should have sent his legal team to defend his case. This does matter because now he looks weak politically since he made no moves to defend himself. Rather unwise and very dangerous Pakistani politics is very unforgiving to those who give up.

Gen. Musharraf didn't need to defend his case as per the emergency clause in the Constitution.

232. Proclamation of emergency on account of war, internal disturbance, etc.
(1) If the President is satisfied that a grave emergency exists in which the security of Pakistan, or any part thereof, is threatened by war or external aggression, or by internal disturbance beyond the power of a Provincial Government to control, he may issue a Proclamation of Emergency.


236. Revocation of Proclamation, etc.
(2) The validity of any Proclamation issued or Order made under this Part shall not be called in question in any court.


Here is the link:
Part X: Emergency Provisions
 
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CJ don't want to touch Mushi. Our democracy at this moment is like house of straws...if touch one whole system will fall and Mushi case is biggest straw in this house, he will take down NRO, which is lethal for PPP and MQM both. After that if CJ is honest then he will turned toward NS and ask him for his previous sins..on and on and on....But Mushi should go to Pakistan.
 
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Musharraf will only go to Pakistan if he has proper security available to him (as is the right of any former President of Pakistan) and there is a level playing field for him to even contest in a court of law. The biggest travesty of justice is that he is being invited to represent himself in a court which is being judged by all of those who have personal grievances against him. In such cases justice cannot be served, only revenge can be had.

What his antagonists want to see is a dummy that they can vent against. So the calls for his return to face charges like a "man". Essentially ill-intentioned taunts to get him to come to the joke which is this treason affair.

I think he is playing it smart. Sit out, let these jazbaatis vent and then realize on their own that while in no way perfect, he really was not that bad compared to what is on the scene right now and what is to befall Pakistan in the near future.
 
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blain2 said:
What is this bit about treason? What is more treasonous than siphoning away millions and billions away from a nangi, bhooki, deprived, starving, illiterate awaam of Pakistan to fatten up ones foreign bank accounts?? Who is more guilty of this ultimate treason? Why is disregard for a bloody paper worth more than the crimes of those who have taken this miserable and unfortunate nation of ours to starvation and bankruptcy?

Yeah we deserve to have an honest, poetic and stubborn leader like Mushrraf. Who puts his life on the line to take over the country, from an “illiterate awaam” obviously some of us are more human than others, fact we are animals. No need to worry we smart ones will get you back on track and then leave you peacefully/NOT.

I don’t know where those “millions and billions” were slipped away, I have heard enough. It’s damning to know you still believe it. It’s not getting you far and neither will it ever; Ill say show some facts and we get a flooded forum, Benazir’s mansions Nawaz’s farm house to Zardari’s 10pc. What about Musharraf, does he not have mansions what about his lucrative 3pc for every military deal? What about Parvez Elahi who turned the Chief Ministerial house into his luxury pad with a 100 bullet proof imported luxury cars, and it wasn’t finished. Shaukat Aziz money launderer, money snatcher, liar who left pathetic economy with no reserves and 10x the debt we use to owe and 100x over inflated rupee, he’s millionaire living in America. No need for evidence we saw it.

The country continues to have “starvation and bankruptcy”.


blain2 said:
I am not sure where the priorities of our intelligentsia are who are nowadays going totally bonkers over this constitutional treason issue. What will it do to the common man on the street? I would buy this argument if other more important things were also getting the same attention and support.

This is Musharraf’s own hand fed judiciary that he thought was taken care of, put on house arrest and out of function. The lawyers movement had three objectives, one; to gain strength overwhelming, two; to reinstate deposed judiciary, three; to enforce their rule.

The common man took part in this. I agree I want the country to focus more on the outstanding matters; health, energy, law and order, but people are engaged with this.

The people who use to say “go Musharraf go” are in power and they want to try him. Some made it part of their manifesto, but the majority dislikes him.

Musharraf tried to stop them he failed.


blain2 said:
Ours is a nation of opportunist. All those who are railing on Musharraf are guilty of crimes which are much more perverse and damaging to the nation than Musharraf's disregard for a piece of paper which has been written, re-written, abrogated, held in abeyance and then restored (multiple times mind you).

And all who treated it like a piece of paper are now dead and remembered as traitors. Thats how they wanted to be remembered let it be.

blain2 said:
There is a stench of provincialism in this whole affair and its all about revenge now. Had this been about justice, the face of it would be very difficult as justice bridges the rifts, not exacerbate them as this whole treason tamasha is bound to.

He might survive a couple of years, since the Army doesn’t want its ex-general to be tried for treason. This treason case will entirely depend on the strength of the political parties if they are ready enough to fight the Army head on.

Musharraf's made himself into a "tamasha" why didn't he defend his case, he could have shut every one up. You reap what you sow. Ever heard of that.
 
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Gen. Musharraf didn't need to defend his case as per the emergency clause in the Constitution.

232. Proclamation of emergency on account of war, internal disturbance, etc.
(1) If the President is satisfied that a grave emergency exists in which the security of Pakistan, or any part thereof, is threatened by war or external aggression, or by internal disturbance beyond the power of a Provincial Government to control, he may issue a Proclamation of Emergency.


236. Revocation of Proclamation, etc.
(2) The validity of any Proclamation issued or Order made under this Part shall not be called in question in any court.


Here is the link:
Part X: Emergency Provisions

Thats quite true thank you for adding this. However your argument is wrong Musharraf abrogated the constitution as Gen Musharraf and not as the President. That would make it un-constitutional which is punishable as stated by Article 6. Musharraf sated this in his maiden speech when he abrogated the constitution on the basis of terrorism and Judiciary, quite a poor case.
 
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@ Khalids... Have you not seen Lord Nazir dancing naked when Musharraf was playing tabla!

We know the moral history of both Sharif and Zardari , as well.

It was just a news piece I pasted here to share. Why did you start quarreling like illiterate quarrelsome women in the neighborhood?
You may say that it is a misinformation or thing of sort, but your reply convinces me that you don't deny the news.

Now, the point is, would you expect "the best leader Pakistan ever had" indulging in this sort of activities while his countrymen are suffering? Please don't start the rotten comparison with NS, Zardari etc, this doesn't justify what he has done to our country in the last 9 years single handedly. No need to be personal, its just the 'rule of law' the illiterate, *****, bhookey nange awaan have started to struggle for. And what the so called 'one and the only true leader' is doing right now? Merry making? Is it the style of a leader? Is it the way any leader out of his homeland spending his/her life in?

Another note: Political sense has nothing to do with literacy, IMO, US voters gave 12 years to Bush (Sr & Jr) to make this world a war ground, are the US voters illiterate? The people of subcontinent made history during Pakistan movement, were they 100% literate? It is the leader who pave the path to future for his people, who give dreams and the way to make those dreams come true for his nation like Allama Iqbal, Quaid e Azam did. I would like to see any one comparing his/her beloved leader with these personalities. On the one hand we think that those were the true leaders of the Muslims of subcontinent and then we start adoring all the political midgets of Pakistan without thinking that all their balance sheets have more liabilities then assets.

I felt uneasy, bye the way, to read the comments above, because I thought PD is a sober forum.
 
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It is my opinion that instead of being the 'Tabalchi Musharraf', he should devote his entire 26 hours to studies[that is if he can add another two hours to the 24 hrs in a day]. There is so much to know and learn and that is absolutely essential, should he wish to lead Pakistan again.

Conversely, why would he wish to study at all, since he is making so much money from his 'lecture tours' - why would he wish to give up all that for a lower paying, thankless job as the 'President of Pakistan'
 
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^ SeaGull Bro! that man is more thick headed than a titanium duranium composite steel brick lined with diamond bonded vulcanized pellet armor!

But you are right, he needs to get some sense in his thick skull
 
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^ SeaGull Bro! that man is more thick headed than a titanium duranium composite steel brick lined with diamond bonded vulcanized pellet armor!

But you are right, he needs to get some sense in his thick skull
Ha ha ha ha!! that was a good one 'righteous_fire'.

And perhaps you should rename yourself to - 'Friendly_fire'
 
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Musharraf's fans are dying for him and he is enjoying his life in London.

Musharraf plays tabla at London concert

Age Correspondent

Islamabad

Aug. 2: Former Pakistan military ruler Pervez Musharraf has started playing tabla in London — where he might stay in exile for years, a British parliamentarian said.

"I heard him play tabla myself. It was during a (recent) music show in London," Lord Nazir Ahmed, a member of the British House of Lords, told a group of journalists here at a reception. Lord Ahmed, who has seriously taken up with the British government the issue of providing extraordinary security to Pervez Musharraf, said that two guards always accompany the former dictator even when he goes to attend private music functions arranged for him by his friends in London.

According to Lord Ahmed, Mr Musharraf was recently invited as chief guest to a music show where he felt that the "tabla nawaz" (drum beater) accompanying the singer had gone out of rhythm.

Dissatisfied, rather irritated, by tabla performer’s odd beats, the former military ruler himself jumped to the stage and entertained the audience with the "best of beats" his agile fingers could extract, Lord Ahmed said. Back home, on Friday, Pakistan’s Supreme Court declared the imposition of emergency and subsequent sacking of judges by Pervez Musharraf on November 3, 2007 as illegal, unconstitutional and ultra-constitutional. Mr Musharraf is the only among several Pakistan dictators to face such embarrassment after losing power.

Mr Musharraf had imposed emergency in the country on November 3, 2007 and sacked over 60 judges of the superior judiciary. He had to however, quit under immense political pressure in August 2008.

British media reports suggest Mr Musharraf will stay in exile in the United Kingdom.

Saudi Arabia has also offered political asylum to Pervez Musharraf.

Bro did you ever hear the term a Hater? This is what you are, I was expecting some constructive reply but you went on posting a funny story, Either you are so narrow minded or full of hate to consider this news, and noticing him beating tabla lmfao wow. :cheesy::pakistan::rofl::hitwall:
 
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