Mumbai violence: Reinventing the Muslim victimhood stance

[Sashan]

This thread is about Mumbai violence ..

If U want to talk about Hindus in Pakistan , just open a new thread ..



The other started talking about Godhra

It started with #142 when he posted something about Gujarat.

are you saying every Muslim should be held responsible for what happened in Gohdra and that's assuming Muslims are behind it??



And I talking about indian hypocrisy which is related to Mumbari and Gujarat

And let me understand how you are going to tie both incidents by your so called "hypocrisy".

 

[ALOK31]

are you saying every Muslim should be held responsible for what happened in Gohdra and that's assuming Muslims are behind it

so u think innocent hindus (children, women included ) in train are responsible for any communal violence who are burn in running by fanatic islamist .(i am not suppoter of any hindus who are responsible for riots after godhra massacre)

 

[Zeeshan360]

So according to you Hindus and Muslims are on par, then why you people need reservation and what the hell was that sacchar committee report..? The fact remains that majority of Muslims remain backward because of lack of family planning (Contraceptives are haram), lack of education (send them to some madarssa), backward mentality (multiple and early marriages) which has to change and the educated and elite Muslims should be spear-heading this change but alias..

Again talking out of ur *** without any sources

1) Contraception is haram - No .. It isn't .. Some Tslibanis issue a fatwa doesn't make it TRUE .. Even Pope says contraception is banned that means Christians don't have family planning ??

2) Education - I have hardly seen any guy who studies in a madrassa .. I said U the number of Muslims in my college who come in without reservations

3)Backward mentality - Survey done by Indian government in 1955 showed more no. Of hindus have muliple wives than Muslims ..
Female foeticides , drinking cow urine by Hindus is surely a modern mentality

And stop clubbing every Muslim together
Even I can start clubbing Hindus togheter if I want

 

[Sashan]

Mumbai violence: ‘Web provocative content, including Gujarat riot had 60 lakh hits’
State Home Minister R R Patil on Monday said a link leading to a webpage with provocative content had a serious impact on the protest at Azad Maidan. “There were 60 lakh hits on a particular link leading to provocative content. But the videos and images were not of incidents in Assam and Myanmar. They were doctored and were actually images of the Gujarat riot and China earthquake,” said Patil.

Even as Muslim leaders called for peace after Saturday’s violence near Azad Maidan, the Mumbai Police has begun to take serious note of groups that are continuing to post inflammatory content on social networking sites.

Even as the organisers of the protest meet have apologised for the violence, a few groups on social networking sites, with several hundred followers each, have urged members to continue spreading the word about atrocities against Muslims and to “come out on the streets again in other cities”. Senior police officers confirmed that the Mumbai Police was contemplating action against those posting inflammatory content on these sites.

Joint Commissioner of Police (Crime) Himanshu Roy said that the Cyber Crime Cell is monitoring all posts and pictures of the Azad Maidan protest put up on Facebook and other sites. “We are also checking and tracing persons who put up such pictures, both before and after the violence, on Saturday. Action will be taken against such persons,” said Roy.

One group on Facebook, called ‘STOP killing Muslims in Burma’, had 12,606 members at the last count. With posts asking group members to organise demonstrations and inform the moderators for publicity, the Azad Maidan protest too finds mention in the group page. Until Monday evening, there were 320 ‘likes’ and 153 comments about the Azad Maidan protest. One user urged other group members to organise similar protests in their cities.

The use of social media was key in publicising the Azad Maidan protest with a special ‘public event notification’ on Facebook still active. More than 1,500 users had confirmed that they would attend the protest. Posts on the page ranged from media bashing to condemning alleged police brutality on “peaceful protestors” at Azad Maidan. One user referred to the two victims who died in the violence as martyrs.

With posts ranging from “waking up the Indian government” to “doing whatever it takes to draw attention”, the groups have seen a flurry of activity. “As a general rule, the hate-mongers are more active on the worldwide web,” said Javed Anand, secretary of Muslims for Secular Democracy and trustee of Citizens for Justice and Peace, which handed over a memorandum to Commissioner of Police Arup Patnaik calling for, among other things, reviving Mohalla Committees in sensitive parts of the city. “But the overwhelming majority of young Muslims are angry at what happened. They’re drawing comparisons with peaceful community movements and are calling what happened at Azad Maidan a disgrace to the community,” Anand added.

Retired assistant commissioner of police Shamsher Khan Pathan said he believes the community members will hand over the perpetrators of violence once CCTV footage identifies them. “But the police should not pick up innocent Muslims. They should be strict against criminals, but there should be no vindictiveness.”

Meanwhile, Pakistan-based blogger Faraz Ahmed posted a link showing that some of these pictures were from other

conflict and disaster-hit Asian countries.

Mumbai violence: ‘Web provocative content, including Gujarat riot had 60 lakh hits’ - Indian Express


Looks like there is going to be more incidents of concern if the news above is true.

 

[doublemaster]

sir better for u not post tehlka post otherwise i start posting hindudtya post (both are same)

It was the same Tehelka operation landed bangaru laksham in jail. I have more reason to bilve them.

Silimar to this there was other news. Karsevaks wasnt innocent. They used to goto some hotel drink tea "say jai shri ram" and exit without paying. Some hindus also rioted against them.
Rumours of girl's kidnap led to Godhra carnage: Witness - Times Of India

Morover these are things discussed in court AFAIK

 

[Zeeshan360]

so u think innocent hindus (children, women included ) in train are responsible for any communal violence who are burn in running by fanatic islamist .(i am not suppoter of any hindus who are responsible for riots after godhra massacre)

Neither am I a supporter of any Muslim who killed people in Godhra riots

It was a chain of events and demolishing babri masjid played a role

 

[harpoon]

Lol what .. Why convince Muslims
It's Lower caste Hindus who have been enjoying reservation not Muslims

Show me the link for 60% of Muslims who get reservation

I have seen only a bunch of Muslims under OBC who belong to Fishermen community

The discussion was about Uniform Civil Code and the first persons who will come against this will be AIMPLB.

As for reservation I heard in We the People program in NDTV about Muslim reservation some weeks back.

The entire Muslim population in Kerala is OBC and enjoys reservation. Thats 25% of Kerala's population.

Official Website of Kerala Public Service Commission

 

[ALOK31]

Neither am I a supporter of any Muslim who killed people in Godhra riots

It was a chain of events and demolishing babri masjid played a role

sir i am agree with u both side is responsible for this unfortunate riots.

 

[Zeeshan360]

The discussion was about Uniform Civil Code and the first persons who will come against this will be AIMPLB.

As for reservation I heard in We the People program in NDTV about Muslim reservation some weeks back.

The entire Muslim population in Kerala is OBC and enjoys reservation. Thats 25% of Kerala's population.

Official Website of Kerala Public Service Commission

I quoted ur wrong post ..
It was previous post I wanted to quote

All muslims in OBC is only in Kerala not in India

 

[indushek]

Mumbai violence: ‘Web provocative content, including Gujarat riot had 60 lakh hits’
State Home Minister R R Patil on Monday said a link leading to a webpage with provocative content had a serious impact on the protest at Azad Maidan. “There were 60 lakh hits on a particular link leading to provocative content. But the videos and images were not of incidents in Assam and Myanmar. They were doctored and were actually images of the Gujarat riot and China earthquake,” said Patil.

Even as Muslim leaders called for peace after Saturday’s violence near Azad Maidan, the Mumbai Police has begun to take serious note of groups that are continuing to post inflammatory content on social networking sites.

Even as the organisers of the protest meet have apologised for the violence, a few groups on social networking sites, with several hundred followers each, have urged members to continue spreading the word about atrocities against Muslims and to “come out on the streets again in other cities”. Senior police officers confirmed that the Mumbai Police was contemplating action against those posting inflammatory content on these sites.

Joint Commissioner of Police (Crime) Himanshu Roy said that the Cyber Crime Cell is monitoring all posts and pictures of the Azad Maidan protest put up on Facebook and other sites. “We are also checking and tracing persons who put up such pictures, both before and after the violence, on Saturday. Action will be taken against such persons,” said Roy.

One group on Facebook, called ‘STOP killing Muslims in Burma’, had 12,606 members at the last count. With posts asking group members to organise demonstrations and inform the moderators for publicity, the Azad Maidan protest too finds mention in the group page. Until Monday evening, there were 320 ‘likes’ and 153 comments about the Azad Maidan protest. One user urged other group members to organise similar protests in their cities.

The use of social media was key in publicising the Azad Maidan protest with a special ‘public event notification’ on Facebook still active. More than 1,500 users had confirmed that they would attend the protest. Posts on the page ranged from media bashing to condemning alleged police brutality on “peaceful protestors” at Azad Maidan. One user referred to the two victims who died in the violence as martyrs.

With posts ranging from “waking up the Indian government” to “doing whatever it takes to draw attention”, the groups have seen a flurry of activity. “As a general rule, the hate-mongers are more active on the worldwide web,” said Javed Anand, secretary of Muslims for Secular Democracy and trustee of Citizens for Justice and Peace, which handed over a memorandum to Commissioner of Police Arup Patnaik calling for, among other things, reviving Mohalla Committees in sensitive parts of the city. “But the overwhelming majority of young Muslims are angry at what happened. They’re drawing comparisons with peaceful community movements and are calling what happened at Azad Maidan a disgrace to the community,” Anand added.

Retired assistant commissioner of police Shamsher Khan Pathan said he believes the community members will hand over the perpetrators of violence once CCTV footage identifies them. “But the police should not pick up innocent Muslims. They should be strict against criminals, but there should be no vindictiveness.”

Meanwhile, Pakistan-based blogger Faraz Ahmed posted a link showing that some of these pictures were from other

conflict and disaster-hit Asian countries.

Mumbai violence: ‘Web provocative content, including Gujarat riot had 60 lakh hits’ - Indian Express


Looks like there is going to be more incidents of concern if the news above is true.

Go after these mofos who sit behind the computers and urge others to go for violence. The police should make an example out of them.

 

[harpoon]

Again talking out of ur *** without any sources

1) Contraception is haram - No .. It isn't .. Some Tslibanis issue a fatwa doesn't make it TRUE .. Even Pope says contraception is banned that means Christians don't have family planning ??

2) Education - I have hardly seen any guy who studies in a madrassa .. I said U the number of Muslims in my college who come in without reservations

3)Backward mentality - Survey done by Indian government in 1955 showed more no. Of hindus have muliple wives than Muslims ..
Female foeticides , drinking cow urine by Hindus is surely a modern mentality

And stop clubbing every Muslim together
Even I can start clubbing Hindus togheter if I want

You already did.

 

[doublemaster]

The discussion was about Uniform Civil Code and the first persons who will come against this will be AIMPLB.

As for reservation I heard in We the People program in NDTV about Muslim reservation some weeks back.

The entire Muslim population in Kerala is OBC and enjoys reservation. Thats 25% of Kerala's population.

Official Website of Kerala Public Service Commission

What is the problem with muslims having different civil rules? If they wish to divide their property according to this what is the problem? This will not harm indian unity.

How did Hema malini enjoy this facility? Are you aware of it?

 

[Farooq]

Neither am I a supporter of any Muslim who killed people in Godhra riots

It was a chain of events and demolishing babri masjid played a role

Even though the internet hindu's anti-Islamic sentiment is so glaringly obvious, but go on and support your hindu master's against Pakistan

 

[Sashan]

Go after these mofos who sit behind the computers and urge others to go for violence. The police should make an example out of them.

That is true. This is the nonsense which contributes to violence and stokes the fire continuously.

 

[Zeeshan360]

You already did.

I know I already did ..

Here people are already clubbing Muslims as terrorists