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Pakistan and India, at the fifth round of home secretary-level talks in Islamabad, have agreed to step up cooperation between their civilian agencies to fight terror and also other crimes including smuggling of narcotics, illegal immigration and influx of fake currency. Pakistan's Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) and India's Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), both civilian, are to work together for this.

The step is significant as the issue of cross-border terrorism is one that has repeatedly led to tensions between the two countries. Indeed, during this round of talks too, the Pakistani official led by the secretary for the interior asked India to stop playing the blame game. During the dialogue, the Indian side had asserted that India's most wanted criminal, Dawood Ibrahim, was in Pakistan. Pakistan denied this and in turn asked India for more details regarding the investigation into the Samjhota Express blast of February 2007. At least 60 people, most of them Pakistanis returning home from India, died in the incident in which an Indian army colonel has now confessed involvement. Like other incidents before it, this attack on the cross-border train too seemed to be aimed at hurting the peace process underway between the two countries. It seems likely that such attempts will continue. They are most likely to succeed in an environment of mutual distrust and suspicion, in which the two sides are unwilling to share information with each other. Most recently, India has accused Pakistan of involvement in blasts in its cities and the suicide bombing at its embassy in Kabul. Making an attempt to clear the air and ensure that acts of terrorism do not disrupt peace talks is vital at this point, when Pakistan's president has spoken on more than one occasion of a new relationship with India and of his willingness to do all he can to work towards this. He has suggested he is ready to take rapid strides forward in this direction. India's prime minister has implied his sentiments towards Pakistan are also good, although New Delhi has yet to state what its response is to Mr Zardari's proposals.

Given that there are many vested interests that would benefit from continued animosity between the two South Asian neighbours, there is every possibility that attempts may be made to sabotage the process. For these reasons the move towards establishing a setup to work together against terrorism, by forming a two-member committee comprising the additional secretaries of the two countries, is a sound one. We must hope it succeeds in its intentions. While the two sides have agreed not to point fingers at each other following terrorist incidents in the absence of evidence, there is a need also to do more. As the Pakistani side pointed out, maltreatment of prisoners and other similar incidents add to distrust. There have been several recent cases in which Pakistanis held in Indian jails were evidently mistreated. Ending such abuses will be one step towards achieving improved understanding, the news.
 
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I heard in news that young people are out in the streets shouting JAI HIND and BHARAT MATA KI JAI, i could sense which way it is developing out to be.......
 
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Breaking news........the boats came from gujrat...india

No mothership......no boats from karachi

Terrorist....Hindi accents heard........not urdu or punjabi.

Terrorist seem to be of indian orgin
 
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27 Nov 2008

NEW DELHI: The previously unknown group that claimed responsibility for Wednesday's attacks across Mumbai has added to the growing belief that India is confronting a home-grown Islamic militancy, AFP reported.

The vast majority of previous attacks on Indian soil have been squarely blamed on groups based in or directly supported by neighbouring Pakistan.
But attacks over the last year have been claimed by groups with names stressing their local origins.


'Deccan Mujahedeen,' which said it was responsible for the Mumbai assault, takes its title from the Deccan plateau that covers much of south India.
The outfit sent emails to local media saying it carried out the attacks.

A similarly shadowy group calling itself the 'Indian Mujahedeen' claimed responsibility for serial blasts in Delhi in September, which killed 20 people, and bombings in the western city of Ahmedabad in July when 45 died.

Another group, the 'Islamic Security Force-Indian Mujahedeen,' said it was behind explosions last month in India's northeast state of Assam that killed 80.

It is unclear whether the various groups are connected, but retired senior security official B. Raman has said their chosen names were a 'bid to Indianise' the Islamic militant movement.

The 'Indian Mujahedeen,' which also calls itself 'the militia of Islam,' first came to public attention last November following serial blasts in Uttar
Pradesh.

The same group sent another email to the media after blasts in May in the city of Jaipur in which it said it would wage an 'open war' against India for supporting the United States, and warned of more attacks against tourist sites.

Security services suspect the groups may be fronts for outfits that have been banned by the Indian government over the past few years such as the Students' Islamic Movement of India.

Others say they could be an undercover coalition of the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed militant organisations.

Just minutes before the blasts in Ahmedabad, the main commercial city of Gujarat state, the 'Indian Mujahedeen' sent emails to several TV news stations warning that people would 'feel the terror of death'.

It said the Ahmedabad blasts were revenge for riots which swept Gujarat in 2002 in which at least 2,000 people, mainly Muslims, were hacked, shot and burnt to death.

It has warned India's largest-circulation daily, The Times of India, and other media groups to halt their 'propaganda war' against Muslims.

And it has told Mukesh Ambani, India's richest businessman, to 'think twice' about his construction of a glass-and-steel 27-storey home on land in Mumbai where a Muslim orphanage once stood.
 
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It is shame that minorities in India have to take such severe actions to be heard. Terrorism is terrorism. It is not based on Islam, hindu or Christianity.

Those who are opressors are terrorist.

Bangladesh Genocide, ring the bells.
 
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It is shame that minorities in India have to take such severe actions to be heard. Terrorism is terrorism. It is not based on Islam, hindu or Christianity.

Those who are opressors are terrorist.

Are these capital letters by mistake or with conscious??
 
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Coast Guard discover body in trawler

A Correspondent | November 27, 2008 | 21:31 IST

Defence PRO in Mumbai Captain Nambiar confirmed that a dead body has been discovered in a trawler intercepted off the coast of Mumbai. It is being escorted back into the Mumbai harbour and the body and crew will be handed over to the police.
 
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most welcome if indians do that.and please be serius if tarerrst kill your 101 people you can't threat pakistan don't show us its mass killings of indians and you ready for war.:angry:

Thats very hard to understand Imran (as usual)

Anyway , I don't think a failing country like Pakistan has the capability for this kind of blasts , there may be some modules based over there but attacks are all carried out by Locals .

About this India being unfair to Muslim is something I cannot understand really , when BJP was in power i.e. 1999-04 , there were hardly any such attacks and not so frequently and they were the ones who were supposed to be Abusing muslims.

when Congress is in power which is a 1000 times more benign to Muslims , they even revoked POTA , these attacks have popped up again and with such impunity .

Does this make a case for the "Anti-Muslim" BJP again , so that India can breathe in peace.
 
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Ya we are a threat to everybody around.....

Our people are being killed, and we are the threat.....Isnt it schinese according to you great conclusive logical powers?

An Indian media report said a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility for the attacks in e-mails to several media outlets. There was no way to verify that claim.
Rohan Gunaratna, a terrorism expert at the International Center for Political Violence and Terrorism Research in Singapore, said he believed the terrorists were from India.
"The earlier generation of terrorist groups in India were mostly linked to Pakistan," he said. "But today we are seeing a dramatic change. They are almost all homegrown groups."
Associated Press
 
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An Indian media report said a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility for the attacks in e-mails to several media outlets. There was no way to verify that claim.
Rohan Gunaratna, a terrorism expert at the International Center for Political Violence and Terrorism Research in Singapore, said he believed the terrorists were from India.
"The earlier generation of terrorist groups in India were mostly linked to Pakistan," he said. "But today we are seeing a dramatic change. They are almost all homegrown groups."
Associated Press



Just read the post to which i replied.......
 
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Bangladesh Genocide, ring the bells.

Firstly this is not a thread to discuss Bangladesh. Secondly my friend I think bells, alarms & sirens are ringing at your end so let's discuss that.

Try to stay on topic.
 
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Two Pak vessels apprehended off Gujarat coast

In its search to find the 'mother ship' of the terrorists who have attacked Mumbai, India on Thursday apprehended two Pakistani merchant vessels off the coast of Gujarat in a joint operation carried out by the Navy, Coast Guard and the water wing of the Border Security Force.

"We have apprehended two cargo ships in a joint operation near the Gujarat coast while they were sailing to Karachi. They are suspected to be the ships that ferried the terrorists near to Mumbai coast on Wednesday," Home Ministry sources told PTI.

The three sea-guarding forces were put on a high alert after intelligence agencies gave inputs about a merchant vessel, suspected to be involved in the terror attacks on Mumbai since Wednesday, trying to move towards Karachi in Pakistan.

The forces were, in fact, conducting their routine joint exercises in the general area of the Gujarat coast when they received the intelligence inputs and they immediately diverted their assets to search for the run-away merchant vessel.

"In the evening, Indian ships sighted two ships including the one about which intelligence agencies had given a tip-off," Home Ministry sources said.

The Indian ships apprehended both the cargo ships, which were identified as MV Alpha and MV Al Kabir. Officers of the three forces were ascertaining the credentials of the crew on board the two ships, sources added.
 
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Firstly this is not a thread to discuss Bangladesh. Secondly my friend I think bells, alarms & sirens are ringing at your end so let's discuss that.

Try to stay on topic.

Just pointing to you, you don't have moral high ground to say oppressors are terrorists. We will leave at this and stick to topic.
 
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