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India has completely lost it

They think they can be a superpower like USA, RUSSIA , and to become a superpower they have done their own little version of 9/11, which couldn't be more unsuccessful.

But the truth is they can never be a superpower , they are not even remotely close to becoming a superpower.

India are '' wanabees ''

Hey.. brother..!!! Why are you hating us this much???? Don't you think an ecnomically growing country would do such a stuipd think.. which can scare away potential investment to the country..!!! The whole world is supporting us and you guys are really talking like a frog in the welll..!!!
 
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OK if whole world spot you take that spot make a KARRY and eat.we never cooperate with India as we do before and India is free to do whats she want .now please go ahead.
 
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Hey.. brother..!!! Why are you hating us this much???? Don't you think an ecnomically growing country would do such a stuipd think.. which can scare away potential investment to the country..!!! The whole world is supporting us and you guys are really talking like a frog in the welll..!!!

cause your leaders are idiots.

They think they can withstand small damage and in return they,ll get a huge reward.

in Other words they are doing this for the
greater good
 
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OK if whole world spot you take that spot make a KARRY and eat.we never cooperate with India as we do before and India is free to do whats she want .now please go ahead.

Why wont you co-orprate with us..??? Can't you give peaceful dialogue a chance??? Well i agree.. that india shouldnt have accussed and asked pakistan to do something for which evidence is handed over NOW..!!!! But the denial also came swiftly from pakistan and i believe a coverup was also orchastrated by the ISI or the army..?? So if you think whatever comming from india is wrong, and whatever from pakistan is wrong.. when and how is this all going to end.. its only through these people to people contact like these wee can know more about each other..!!! Here too if your closing doors.. then God Bless this part of the world..!!!!
 
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cause your leaders are idiots.

They think they can withstand small damage and in return they,ll get a huge reward.

in Other words they are doing this for the
greater good

Yeh,

All the Indian leaders are idiots, because during partition all the wise minds went away to pakistan and now the whole world are feeling the difference.

Also for you lives of 180 peoples must be a small damage, well I can understand it, for you lifes is nothing more then a BS.

Thanks
Daboo
 
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Five Reasons Why India Can't 'Do A Gaza' On Pakistan
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Five Reasons Why India Can't 'Do A Gaza' On Pakistan
Tunku Varadarajan, 01.05.09, 12:00 AM ET

Over the last week, many Americans (and Indians) have asked me why India does not "do a Gaza" on Pakistan, referring, of course, to an emulation of Israel's punitive use of force against Hamas-run Palestine, a territory from which rockets rain down on Israeli soil with reliable frequency (if not reliable destructiveness ... but that is not for want of Hamas intent).

My answer, given with the heavy heart that comes always with a painful grip on reality, is simple: India does not because it cannot.

Here are five reasons why:

1. India is not a military goliath in relation to Pakistan in the way Israel is to the Palestinian territories. India does not have the immunity, the confidence and the military free hand that result from an overwhelming military superiority over an opponent. Israel's foe is a non-sovereign entity that enjoys the most precarious form of self-governance. Pakistan, for all its dysfunction, is a proper country with a proper army, superior by far to the tin-pot Arab forces that Israel has had to combat over time. Pakistan has nukes, to boot. Any assault on Pakistani territory carries with it an apocalyptic risk for India. This is, in fact, Pakistan's trump card. (This explains, also, why Israel is determined to prevent the acquisition of nuclear weapons by Iran.)

2. Even if India could attack Pakistan without fear of nuclear retaliation, the rationale for "doing a Gaza" is, arguably, not fully present: Israel had been attacked consistently by the very force--Hamas--that was in political control of the territory from which the attacks occurred. By contrast, terrorist attacks on India, while originating in Pakistan, are not authored by the Pakistani government. India can-- and does--contend that Pakistan's government should shut down the terrorist training camps on Pakistani soil. (In this insistence, India has unequivocal support from Washington.) Yet only a consistent and demonstrable pattern of dereliction by Pakistani authorities-- which would need to be dereliction verging on complicity with the terrorists--would furnish India with sufficient grounds to hold the Pakistani state culpable.

3. As our columnist, Karlyn Bowman, writes Israel enjoys impressive support from the American people, in contrast to the Palestinians. No other state--apart, perhaps, from Britain--evokes as much favor in American public opinion as does Israel. This is not merely the result of the much-vaunted "Israel lobby" (to use a label deployed by its detractors), but also because of the very real depth of cultural interpenetration between American and Israeli society. This fraternal feeling buys Israel an enviable immunity in the conduct of its strategic defense. India, by contrast--while considerably more admired and favored in American public opinion than Pakistan--enjoys scarcely a fraction of Israel's "pull" in Washington when it comes to questions of the use of force beyond its borders.

4. Pakistan is strategically significant to the United States; the Palestinians are not. This gives Washington scant incentive to rein in the Israelis, but a major incentive to rein in any Indian impulse to strike at Pakistan. However justified the Indian anger against Pakistan over the recent invasion of Mumbai by Pakistani terrorists, the last thing that the U.S. wants right now is an attack--no matter how surgical--by India against Pakistan-based terror camps. This would almost certainly result in a wholesale shift of Pakistani troops away from their western, Afghan front toward the eastern boundary with India--and would leave the American Afghan campaign in some considerable disarray, at least in the short term. So Washington has asked for, and received, the gift of Indian patience. And although India recognizes that it is not wholly without options to mobilize quickly for punitive, surgical strikes in a "strategic space," it would--right now--settle for a trial of the accused terrorist leaders in U.S. courts. (Seven U.S. citizens were killed in Mumbai: Under U.S. law, those responsible--and this should include Pakistani intelligence masterminds--have to be brought to justice.)

5. My last, and meta-, point: Israel has the privilege of an international pariah to ignore international public opinion in its use of force against the Palestinians. A state with which few others have diplomatic relations can turn the tables on those that would anathematize it by saying, Hang diplomacy. India, by contrast, has no such luxury. It is a prisoner of its own global aspirations--and pretensions.

Tunku Varadarajan, a professor at the Stern Business School at NYU and research fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, is opinions editor at Forbes.com, where he writes a weekly column.



COULD IT ALSO BE A POINT THAT INDIA DO NOT WANT RATHER THAN CAN'T ...
 
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Now the evidence is there with Pakistan. Let's see if they take some meaningful action or repeat the same old music of insufficient evidence and cover-ups.
 
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Now the evidence is there with Pakistan. Let's see if they take some meaningful action or repeat the same old music of insufficient evidence and cover-ups.

please yaar don't rely on us we must sing old song because we love old songs.we just say india is free what she wana say and do we don't care.:D

and already india blame us and say too much abut us on world forums now why we take action??:)
 
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Now the evidence is there with Pakistan. Let's see if they take some meaningful action or repeat the same old music of insufficient evidence and cover-ups.

The coverup has been done already like the disappearance of Kasab's parents and presence of intelligence people in Faridkot to erase the evidence. Nothing is going to come out of this. Anyways, GoI has finally given the evidence and that is all matters, if nothing comes out of it, I see GoI taking some stern actions.
 
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Now the evidence is there with Pakistan. Let's see if they take some meaningful action or repeat the same old music of insufficient evidence and cover-ups.

Dont flatter yourself vinod, evidence according to who, dont you think Pakistan reserves the right to varify the credibility of these evidence.
 
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Dont flatter yourself vinod, evidence according to who, dont you think Pakistan reserves the right to varify the credibility of these evidence.

They do. That is what we are waiting for.

The attitude with which they approach the evidence is what matters. I don't have high hopes but let's give it a shot.
 
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They do. That is what we are waiting for.

The attitude with which they approach the evidence is what matters. I don't have high hopes but let's give it a shot.

You have already made up your mind, havent you? and majority of Indians including your very own government shares the same opinion that Pakistan isnt serious.But in any case Pakistan will definately look into the matter and investigate on its own to see how much credibility lies in this evidence which India at first was reluctant to share as a result of which raised alot of doubts about its authentication.
 
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Dont flatter yourself vinod, evidence according to who, dont you think Pakistan reserves the right to varify the credibility of these evidence.

Of course Pakistan should verify whether this is credible or not.

But if it is found to be the truth?
 
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You have already made up your mind, havent you? and majority of Indians including your very own government shares the same opinion that Pakistan isnt serious.But in any case Pakistan will definately look into the matter and investigate on its own to see how much credibility lies in this evidence which India at first was reluctant to share as a result of which raised alot of doubts about its authentication.

Not really. As I said, we need to wait and watch. The past experience is not good and that is always a factor but I am sure one day the tide will turn.

I hope Pakistan treats the evidence seriously and does not simple look for ways to dismiss it. That is the attitude of most people here. You are the only Pakistani member to even talk of looking at the evidence seriously.
 
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Now the evidence is there with Pakistan. Let's see if they take some meaningful action or repeat the same old music of insufficient evidence and cover-ups.

As Ice said, the evidence has to be vetted, and it has to be determined whether it is sufficient for prosecuting through the courts. Some of the alleged perpetrators, supposedly the masterminds, have already been arrested.

Assuming the evidence is everything the Indians say it is, it will then be up to the Pakistani legal system to convict these people, in light of whatever evidence is presented.

I think that Hafiz Saeed will likely walk free, perhaps with some restrictions, since I haven't heard of any evidence implicating him in the Mumbai attacks.

The GoP wil have done its job if it takes Lakhvi, Zarrar Shah and any others implicated to court. My opinion is that the GoP should take the alleged perpetrators to court even if the evidence from India does not appear enough to convict in a court of law, because then we can wash our hands off it and let the justice system figure it out.
 
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