Mullah Omar ready to end al-Qaida ties

[TechLahore]

Better read about Islamic rule of law it is totally in contradiction with democratic way of government .

Utter nonsense, once again. Islam does not exclude or prohibit democracy.

 

[waraich66]

You are a real piece of work. I don't think you would understand logic if you were hit with it between the eyes.

You completely failed to address the point I made regarding massive differences in the muslim community concerning succession as soon as the Prophet passed away. If there was a single, reliable way of determining succession that everyone in the muslim world had bought into, that would be one thing. But that is not and never was the case. In the absence of such a system, allowing people to choose their future themselves is the only option.

You can keep crying hoarse about khilafat, but the fact is that there was never a single method used to appoint the khalifa.

The day is not far when we will get our Ata Turk and he will rid Pakistan of the pestilence that is these myopic, retrogressive hijackers of Islam who pervert the message of God and sit in judgement over every one as if they were Allah mian's private secretaries.

You are totally lost in confusions , dont try to invent wheel , Quran and Sunnah is source of our guidance
How could we succeed, if we follow a way of life and governance designed by any individual in contrast with guidelines of Islam .

Better read history of Khulfa e Rashdeen to enlighten your mind ?

 

[waraich66]

Utter nonsense, once again. Islam does not exclude or prohibit democracy.

Darkness is due to absence of light , for you that is enough

 

[TechLahore]

Darkness is due to absence of light , for you that is enough

And idiocy is due to absence of intelligence. That is my tribute to you.

 

[waraich66]

And idiocy is due to absence of intelligence. That is my tribute to you.

Bey adab Bey naseeb
Ba adab Ba Naseeb

 

[S-2]

Remember, Fundamentalist, it is YOU that engaged in the dissemblance of challenging data without providing your own contravening information. I still await something more than dissemblance from your fingers.

"Utter nonsense, once again. Islam does not exclude or prohibit democracy."

TechLahore has it right. You only need witness the emerging power of a democratic Turkey to see the possibilities.

"You have tried to sell your recipe( democracy) but could not succeed..."

Silly. Few nations on earth had further to go and the west has only been at this for eight years. The process shall unfold as it also shall in Pakistan given the opportunity.

OTOH, Islam has had ages to sell its recipe in Afghanistan and elsewhere to little avail. It is a spiritual path meant to guide the personal conduct of one man to another but carries no specific strictures against the rights of collective self-determination. Too many of your own muslim brothers here have made such clear that it's evident you possess no special insight in this regard to your own religion.

I await your data that refutes UNAMA's facts regarding casualties and also, please, the answer to my question-

What country supports the taliban's war on Afghanistan?

Will you provide such or might I consider avoidance as more of your feckless meanderings around the truth?

Thanks.

 

[Naradmuni]

Mullah Omar ready to end al-Qaida ties

mulla has no choice here.

Bade Beaabroo hokar, tere kooche se hum nikle.

As far as Islam and democracy is concerned, I had some very relevant expert opinion on the topic in a thread "Islam and democracy". But instead, the people who disagreed with my opinion teamed up and deleted my posts. It is very futile to engage people here in logic and reasoning if the topic to be discussed has some reference to Islam.

 

[waraich66]

Remember, Fundamentalist, it is YOU that engaged in the dissemblance of challenging data without providing your own contravening information. I still await something more than dissemblance from your fingers.

"Utter nonsense, once again. Islam does not exclude or prohibit democracy."

TechLahore has it right. You only need witness the emerging power of a democratic Turkey to see the possibilities.

"You have tried to sell your recipe( democracy) but could not succeed..."

Silly. Few nations on earth had further to go and the west has only been at this for eight years. The process shall unfold as it also shall in Pakistan given the opportunity.

OTOH, Islam has had ages to sell its recipe in Afghanistan and elsewhere to little avail. It is a spiritual path meant to guide the personal conduct of one man to another but carries no specific strictures against the rights of collective self-determination. Too many of your own muslim brothers here have made such clear that it's evident you possess no special insight in this regard to your own religion.

I await your data that refutes UNAMA's facts regarding casualties and also, please, the answer to my question-

What country supports the taliban's war on Afghanistan?

Will you provide such or might I consider avoidance as more of your feckless meanderings around the truth?

Thanks.

You fail to get my point , even i found any data from any neutral source more realistic then UN , will it has any Significance to prove any one or both of waring factions wrong or right ?

You need to focus on root cause of conflict , basically two different civilizations are at war in Afghanistan , definately Talaban have advantage of home ground ,majority support of Afghan civilian population and also have support of muslim ummah in general because the method adopt by US to resolve the major issue of terrorism in Afghanistan is wrong.

I think their are two major issues on which Talaban will never compromise .

1. Rule of Law(Shariah).
2.Continued occupation of ISAF.

Family of nations should concentrate on Al Qaeda idealogy or myth , first point US think tank should try to understand that why idealogy of Al Qaeda is alive and spreading faster then normal pace ?

If you noticed OBL is now focusing in Palestine only , he has no other issue to sell his idealogy.Why not resolve this issue on periority basis?

Islam dont allow violance or fasad , but if Israel violate UN resolutions with support of US ,there is sects (Salafi) which has less or no flexibility motivate its followers to adopt violance in reaction .

 

[FreekiN]

Mullah Omar really loves to keep people hanging...

Anyways isn't a Mullah a Shia imam or something?

 

[waraich66]

Mullah Omar really loves to keep people hanging...

Anyways isn't a Mullah a Shia imam or something?

He may have devine powers , to fight alone with ISAF+ (40 countries army and resources) is not a joke

 

[Awesome]

Bey adab Bey naseeb
Ba adab Ba Naseeb

Ummatein aur bhi hain, un mein gunahgaar bhi hain
Ijz waale bhi hain mast-e-mai pindaar bhi hain

In mein kaahil bhi hain, ghaafil bhi hain, hoshiyaar bhi hain
Sainkron hain ke tere naam se bezaar bhi hain

There are other ummahs, among them are sinners also
There are modest people and arrogant ones also

Among them are slothful, indolent as well as clever people
There are also hundreds who are disgusted with Thy name

-- Allama Iqbal

Perhaps most suited for people wishing to implement one version of Islam upon all the people. Don't you realize, there a Muslims who are sick of the very thought of it?

 

[TechLahore]

Mullah Omar really loves to keep people hanging...

Anyways isn't a Mullah a Shia imam or something?

Mullah is a generic term. It is not sect specific.

As you might be aware, Mullah Omar and his blood thirsty Taliban followers are of a salafi persuasion.

 

[waraich66]

Ummatein aur bhi hain, un mein gunahgaar bhi hain
Ijz waale bhi hain mast-e-mai pindaar bhi hain

In mein kaahil bhi hain, ghaafil bhi hain, hoshiyaar bhi hain
Sainkron hain ke tere naam se bezaar bhi hain

There are other ummahs, among them are sinners also
There are modest people and arrogant ones also

Among them are slothful, indolent as well as clever people
There are also hundreds who are disgusted with Thy name

-- Allama Iqbal

Perhaps most suited for people wishing to implement one version of Islam upon all the people. Don't you realize, there a Muslims who are sick of the very thought of it?

There are no versions of Islam, we need to develop unity in muslim ummah

Well Said by Iqbal

"Hawas ne tukre tukre kar diya hay na’u insan ko
ukhuwwat ka bayan ho ja mohabbat ki zaban ho ja
ye Hindi, wo Khurasani, ye Afghani, wo Turani
tu ay sharmindayeh sahil uchhal kar bekaraan ho ja"

 

[waraich66]

Mullah is a generic term. It is not sect specific.

As you might be aware, Mullah Omar and his blood thirsty Taliban followers are of a salafi persuasion.

blood thirsty talaban ? did they crossed the record of US?

Talaban majority are follower of Hanfi not Salafi ,dont mis guide people if you dont have knowledge

little knowledge is dangeruos

 

[Awesome]

You fail to get my point , even i found any data from any neutral source more realistic then UN , will it has any Significance to prove any one or both of waring factions wrong or right ?

You need to focus on root cause of conflict , basically two different civilizations are at war in Afghanistan , definately Talaban have advantage of home ground ,majority support of Afghan civilian population and also have support of muslim ummah in general because the method adopt by US to resolve the major issue of terrorism in Afghanistan is wrong.

I think their are two major issues on which Talaban will never compromise .

1. Rule of Law(Shariah).
2.Continued occupation of ISAF.

Family of nations should concentrate on Al Qaeda idealogy or myth , first point US think tank should try to understand that why idealogy of Al Qaeda is alive and spreading faster then normal pace ?

If you noticed OBL is now focusing in Palestine only , he has no other issue to sell his idealogy.Why not resolve this issue on periority basis?

Islam dont allow violance or fasad , but if Israel violate UN resolutions with support of US ,there is sects (Salafi) which has less or no flexibility motivate its followers to adopt violance in reaction .

Mullah Omar's bravery:

So what is Mullah Omar all about?

Don't shave
Hit women
Hit men
Behead free speakers
Blow up schools
Enslave women in the houses
Force Women to wear Burkhas

Seriously this is Islam? Are you trying to bring followers to Islam or make Islam a laughing stock? Because that is what its becoming under Mullah Omar.