Muharram around the world

[liontk]

My friends, I usually do not post religious content much but I decided to make a thread for the occasion since no one made one so far for some reason (exams). Also I posted this thread in members club as per forum policy on such content

Please feel free to share what this month means to you.

I will start by sharing this poem as it reflects what this month means to me.

"In the Murder of Hussain,
In deed is the death of Yazid.
Each Karbala revives Islam"

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Wish you all a peaceful Muharram.

 

[liontk]

Wish you all a peaceful Muharram.

Thanks and yes it is a peaceful event and I am surprised there wasnt a thread on this subject yet on a pakistani forum. I will post some pics since pictures tell a 1000 words as the saying goes

Pics from around the world....

 

[Dubious]

Each Karbala revives Islam"

and then you point at other people and calling them extremists.....Karbala doesnt revive Islam it divided Islam so badly we suffer till date!

 

[liontk]

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and then you point at other people and calling them extremists.....Karbala doesnt revive Islam it divided Islam so badly we suffer till date!

This poem is an outlet to express our grief over losing a historical figure that made a valiant sacrifice in face of adversity and I do not find anything extreme about the poem.

Please elaborate because muharram procession and congregations tend to be peaceful to community around them and it is a time of unity I would say for the muslim community.

 

[Dubious]

Nothing wrong with the month nor the processions....but what is wrong is what they demonstrate during the processions....and congregations

Do you know all those here who loath the Arab culture and everything..

Well, it was Arab culture (more of a culture of most part of the world before Islam came) to beat themselves up, tear their clothes, abuse themselves to show sorrow..........They would break things at home to show sorrow...

When Islam came it advices not to "waste" ni´mat nor to waste hidayat....it doesnt even allow to harm the body which is from ALLAH and should not be harmed in such a way! Pain is also not part of Islam to inflict it on one´s self is beyond my understanding!

Despite the remarked hatred for the Arab culture...these things are saluted for god knows what reason....

I prefer people sitting down and reading Al fatiha to bless the soul of the historic figure than decorate a horse and parade it, show off a sword (only god knows whose it REALLY is) or beat themselves up in public....coz none of this is Islamic to begin with!

You can also view this practice in some schools of thoughts of Christianity (which existed before Islam) who think that by beating and bleeding sin is forgiven...ALLAH is not soo merciless nor blood thirsty so as to ONLY forgive if you bleed!

 

[liontk]

Nothing wrong with the month nor the processions....but what is wrong is what they demonstrate during the processions....and congregations

Do you know all those here who loath the Arab culture and everything..

Well, it was Arab culture (more of a culture of most part of the world before Islam came) to beat themselves up, tear their clothes, abuse themselves to show sorrow..........They would break things at home to show sorrow...

When Islam came it advices not to "waste" ni´mat nor to waste hidayat....it doesnt even allow to harm the body which is from ALLAH and should not be harmed in such a way! Pain is also not part of Islam to inflict it on one´s self is beyond my understanding!

Despite the remarked hatred for the Arab culture...these things are saluted for god knows what reason....

I prefer people sitting down and reading Al fatiha to bless the soul of the historic figure than decorate a horse and parade it, show off a sword (only god knows whose it REALLY is) or beat themselves up in public....coz none of this is Islamic to begin with!

You can also view this practice in some schools of thoughts of Christianity (which existed before Islam) who think that by beating and bleeding sin is forgiven...ALLAH is not soo merciless nor blood thirsty so as to ONLY forgive if you bleed!

Oh I see the perspective that you are coming from but we must understand that this is a global event and practices vary between culture to culture on how to outlet their grief. Also self flagellation practice varies so it depends but I think rather than focussing on people's personal practices, this thread purpose is to focus on what this day means to us so please share what this means to you.

 

[liontk]

Found an interesting painting in the british museaum archives, I will add the description below.

This is one of a group of nine paintings. They depict a durbar (public reception) at the Murshidabad court, and various Hindu and Muslim festivals and religious scenes. A Murshidabad artist copied it, probably from an original oil painting by George Farington. He had worked in Murshidabad from May 1785 until his death there in 1788. Farington's original is lost. This painting shows the Muharram procession, in which Muslims carry 'tazias' or 'ta'ziyas' (bamboo and paper replicas of the tombs of Hasan and Husain) to the river for immersion. The festival commemorates the deaths of these two grandsons of the Prophet Muhammad.

 

[Dubious]

please share what this means to you.

First month of Hijr calender

 

[Kompromat]

Qatal-e-Hussain Asal Main Marg-e-Yazid Hai
Islam Zinda Hota Hai Har Karbala Kay Baad (Iqbal)

The philosophy behind it is the struggle and clash of ideals. Although Yazidi forces were immense and overwhelming, however the moral victory of Hazrat Hussain and his fellows represents the duty of a Muslim to stand up for reform and justice against fascist tyranny from a powerful ruler. It also tells us that morality is relevant to warfare and even the most powerful of armies can be condemned to a moral defeat by simple courage and sacrifice of a few. Lastly, Iqbal points out to the fact that Islam revives itself during an ideological struggle and comes out as an even more potent ideology. The reference to battle is in an ideological sense and not in a literal sense. #Respect

FYI - Imam Hussain wasn't Shia nor this episode in history is a Shia property. In Pakistan its commemorated with respect, throughout the spectrum of all so called 'sects'.

 

[liontk]

Qatal-e-Hussain Asal Main Marg-e-Yazid Hai
Islam Zinda Hota Hai Har Karbala Kay Baad (Iqbal)

The philosophy behind it is the struggle and clash of ideals. Although Yazidi forces were immense and overwhelming, however the moral victory of Hazrat Hussain and his fellows represents the duty of a Muslim to stand up for reform and justice against fascist tyranny from a powerful ruler. It also tells us that morality is relevant to warfare and even the most powerful of armies can be condemned to a moral defeat by simple courage and sacrifice of a few. Lastly, Iqbal points out to the fact that Islam revives itself during an ideological struggle and comes out as an even more potent ideology. The reference to battle is in an ideological sense and not in a literal sense. #Respect

FYI - Imam Hussain wasn't Shia nor this episode in history is a Shia property. In Pakistan its commemorated with respect, throughout the spectrum of all so called 'sects'.

Thanks for the detailed response and I could not have put it any better. This struggle is a moral lesson and can be used a source of motivation despite facing overwhelming adversity. I actually thought of that cricket politician guy in a similar aspect of courage to fight for democracy against an unfair system ( no disrespect to current pakistan government).

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