Muhammad Bin Qasim

[Mage]

Wasn't that guy executed because he was a r@pist? Quite a feat for the first Pakistani.

 

[Che palle]

Pakistanis are South Asian with Indian heritage.

I believe they are a mix of Iranian and Indic people.

 

[Wolfhunter]

I believe they are a mix of Iranian and Indic people.

Either way they are not Arab. Arabs mock south Asian people especially the Pakistanis.

The fatuoush eating “bros” call Pakistanis “Bakistani”. Need I say more?

Embrace your history .

 

[Che palle]

Either way they are not Arab. Arabs mock south Asian people especially the Pakistanis.

The fatuoush eating “bros” call Pakistanis “Bakistani”. Need I say more?

I wasn't talking about all this lol. Why make everything into a fight ?

 

[Wolfhunter]

I wasn't talking about all this lol. Why make everything into a fight ?

It's not a fight, I don't care about Arabians or Pakistanis or Pakistanis wishing they were Arabian. I just find it bemusing! That is all!

 

[Che palle]

It's not a fight, I don't care about Arabians or Pakistanis or Pakistanis wishing they were Arabian. I just find it bemusing! That is all!

I don't think its them wanting to be Arabs. Islamic nationalists take pride in a common Islamic culture ( with some Arab influence yes) and distancing themselves from their pagan history as much as possible. Maybe that's the reason they might come off as wannabes sometimes.

 

[Hamza913]

Wasn't that guy executed because he was a r@pist? Quite a feat for the first Pakistani.

No, it's a myth that has no historical basis.

Please educate yourself.

I believe they are a mix of Iranian and Indic people.

Correct.

Here's a map showing the genetics of Pakistanis as compared to surrounding populations:

 

[Jaanbaz]

For those who don't know Jinnah was inspired by Ataturk rather then some Arab invader, Jinnah was a very modern man who wore western dresses and believed in equality of women. If Jinnah was inspired by Arabs women would not have been allowed to drive in Pakistan.

 

[TMA]

From Historical sense , there is a problem , becasue we continue to lie to People in Schools about our history
History is defined as connection of people with various culture and society

Sure Bin Qasim was there for few years but we cannot remove the infuence of 5 Major Empires Pakistan was part of Last being the British Empire


Pakistan was fromed by Political Movement , not by Mohammad Bin Qasim's war

Our culture involves interaction with various Empires , Trade routes and that is true identity of Pakistan

The only major Empire Pakistan missed out on was Ottoman Empire and that was because we were part of British control

History = -600 Years before birth of Jesus , to present times 2018


Pakistan's Real regional History

• Part of Greek Empire
• Part of Persian Empire
• Part of Ummayad Dynasty (A.k.a Mohamad Bin Qasim)
• Part of Mongol Empire
• Various Moghal Dynasties ~
• Part of British Empire
• Polical Awakening and Pollitical struggle for Independent state of Pakistan
• Pakistan = is born

However we can see the region Turkey / Pakistan were one nation under different empires at one point in history. But that I mean the geographical area we now reference as Turkey or Pakistan



The idea to Glorify Bin Qasim , is a bit strange as I become more mature now vs how this idea was stuffed down my throat as a student. Becasue really Pakistan is a Nation which has had connection to various large civilizations of Pakistan and Present

So modern age CEPC China/Pakistan connection is no suprise

Well written! I agree with you, when I was younger this was taught to me that Bin Qasim was the first Pakistan and Pakistan is actually 1400 years old when he came.
Now I realise with reading the works of wise men such as Umar Farooq Abdullah, that Islam purifies pre-existing cultures not wash them away.

 

[Mage]

No, it's a myth that has no historical basis.

He was executed because of this, from what I read...

 

[Hamza913]

He was executed because of this, from what I read...

You read it wrong, that is a mere folktale which historians consider inaccurate. The real reason he died was because his uncle was despised, and people didn't want him trying anything in revenge once they executed his uncle.

 

[HariPrasad]

First Pakistani. This is really great.

 

[Hamza913]

First Pakistani. This is really great.

Hindustanis like yourself who are obsessed with race cannot comprehend being led by someone who isn't a North-Hindustani.

You cannot even comprehend that your ancestors came from the Caucasus, it's hilarious.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

T.E Lawrence was the "first Saudi"

It's a damn good one!!!!!

 

[Indus Pakistan]

No, it's a myth that has no historical basis.

Please educate yourself.



Correct.

Here's a map showing the genetics of Pakistanis as compared to surrounding populations:

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Source please?