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Most spineless leader in the world

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Get real, Turkey has been facing defeats for about 100 years now. It's the same for everyone. Until they have the strength to match the worlds biggest nations, it'll remain the same. I take no joy in this, i consider their success my success, i consider their defeat my defeat.
Some exceptions:
  • Turkey recovered the Northern Cyprus from the clutches of the Greeks
  • Northern Irak is being patrolled with permanent bases
  • Parts of the Northern Syria already recovered, others to follow

Ottomans didnt get to be Ottomans if they made emotional decisions like u advoctae neither did the US. Running a state is different from a personal fued.

Erdogan knows the US can hit Turkey's economy beyond repair, it is never wise to keep on fighting a loosing battle nor is it prudent to make ur people and country suffer over an ego episode.

The US could not back off from this fued cause they have that superpower image to mantain, Turkey on the other hand is not encumbered by such vanity. The message was sent that Turkey will no longer simply roll over like previous govts used to, the message is sent up the rigth corridors so no use sticking to this any longer. Erdogan made a wise decision my letting the bitch go.
And, receiving the East of the Firat inside Syria in return!!!! As for me, millions of Muslims with land vs 1 Christian priest isn't a bad deal....

Bingo. Ask @Azadkashmir if he would like to be hiding in the mountains, parents being pushed around by US Marines, females being frisked by US soldiers and his children being killed by US bombs. Now repeat that tragedy million on million times ....

If Mullah Omar had iota of sense he would have compromised and made a deal with US. There would be million dead Afghans still alive and millions more would not be humiliated by US Marines everyday. And India would not be dancing in Kabul. Sometimes it is wise to make tactical withdrawel.
99.9% of the Muslim leaders haven't understood how to gain in geo-politics while being in a weaker position!!!! Jinnah was one such exception....
 
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Reminds me of Mushy bending over backwards to offer Pakistan for the taking --- he agreed to more of the American requests/demands than even they anticipated in the first phone call, LOL.

(not that anybody who came after him was any better; all should be hanged; let's hope IK can deliver)
 
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Trump pulls an Erdogan on Erdogan.


So no economic easing or anything. Erdogan got played and got left empty handed with a red bum hole.

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Hehehe... “sultan” got a kick in his face. Watch out for more humiliating statements from Trump. And Erdo will keep shut like a tard.
 
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Bingo. Ask @Azadkashmir if he would like to be hiding in the mountains, parents being pushed around by US Marines, females being frisked by US soldiers and his children being killed by US bombs. Now repeat that tragedy million on million times ....

If Mullah Omar had iota of sense he would have compromised and made a deal with US. There would be million dead Afghans still alive and millions more would not be humiliated by US Marines everyday. And India would not be dancing in Kabul. Sometimes it is wise to make tactical withdrawel.

Where's the red line when it comes to the US?
 
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Turkey did the right thing. On the face of world politics their is nothing like spineless it's all about how you show off and deliver your message, negotiate and get what you want. They have done something behind the curtains which none of the armchair generals would have known. The decision is for Turkey and they did just right.
 
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Turkey did the right thing. On the face of world politics their is nothing like spineless it's all about how you show off and deliver your message, negotiate and get what you want. They have done something behind the curtains which none of the armchair generals would have known. The decision is for Turkey and they did just right.

The problem of Erdogan is not that he released the pastor but that he dragged turkey into an international incident over an insignificant matter.

First he exposed the turkish justice system as a joke that can lock people without cause and than use them in some sort of a twisted hostage diplomacy.

Than he managed to turn it into an international incident by going public against the US in a matter that could and should have been resolved quietly behind the scenes.

Erdogan proved himself a caprisic person that goes back on his word , rather than a trusted ally.

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