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The important thing is preserving the people of Turkey and their best interests. He is their leader, he should do what is best for the most people. Sanctions or war with America won't help Turkey today. Instead maybe this episode will help them become stronger.

Episode?? The Turks faced defeat. When the Turks face defeat it is a bitter pill to swallow.

Too bad in our culture we dont have Seppuku these fools who Turks call their leaders need to get the Ottoman kilij and end their lives for this dishonour.
 
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Past is the Past if the Ottomans were alive today Erdogan would not last a day. Ottomans executed people for their incompetence look at this incompetence from erdogan.

What kind of Muslim Leader is this??? Muslims need to stop being duped by such a spineless leader who disgraced Turkey.

Taskforce it is the former manager of Arsenal he held that position from 1996 to 2018.
Ottomans didnt get to be Ottomans if they made emotional decisions like u advoctae neither did the US. Running a state is different from a personal fued.

Erdogan knows the US can hit Turkey's economy beyond repair, it is never wise to keep on fighting a loosing battle nor is it prudent to make ur people and country suffer over an ego episode.

The US could not back off from this fued cause they have that superpower image to mantain, Turkey on the other hand is not encumbered by such vanity. The message was sent that Turkey will no longer simply roll over like previous govts used to, the message is sent up the rigth corridors so no use sticking to this any longer. Erdogan made a wise decision my letting the bitch go.
 
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Episode?? The Turks faced defeat. When the Turks face defeat it is a bitter pill to swallow.

Too bad in our culture we dont have Seppuku these fools who Turks call their leaders need to get the Ottoman kilij and end their lives for this dishonour.

Get real, Turkey has been facing defeats for about 100 years now. It's the same for everyone. Until they have the strength to match the worlds biggest nations, it'll remain the same. I take no joy in this, i consider their success my success, i consider their defeat my defeat.
 
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Ottomans didnt get to be Ottomans if they made emotional decisions like u advoctae neither did the US. Running a state is different from a personal fued. Erdogan knows the US can hit Turkey's economy beyond repair it is never wise to keep on fighting a loosing battle nor is it prudent to mae ur people and country suffer over an ego episode. The US could not back off from this fued cause they have that superpower image to mantain, Turkey is not a superpower so they didnt have to pursue this any longer. The message is sent that Turkey will no longer do US bidding like orevous govta used to, the message is sent to no use sticking to this any longer.

Ottomans did politics better than Erdogan. Erdogan needs to be stop being a wannabe Ottoman. Because he will never reach their level.

He should be glad the Ottomans are gone because he would end up like Kara Mustapha Pasha.
 
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Ottomans did politics better than Erdogan. Erdogan needs to be stop being a wannabe Ottoman. Because he will never reach their level.

Be should be glad the Ottomans are gone because he would end up like Kara Mustapha Pasha.
Just dont lob statements in the air mate, discuss facts, explain how this was bad politics?, Turkey with its previous govts was a call boy for the US, then Erdogan came who gave signs of restoring Turk dignity and independence, the US tried to coup him out and failed.
Erdogan needed to show the world that Turkey will no longer bend over so he made this pastor scenario into a thing, after the message of resistance had been sent, he simply backed off to avoid further damage to Turkey's economy. He needed a message sent, he did that. Thats excellent politics mate.
The ottomans started out as henchemen for the Seljuk Sultanante, never forget that.
Mixing ego with politics is the domain of children not men.
 
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All these strong man types will bow in front of the Americans when the real pressure is applied. The truth is no Muslim nation alone has the strength to stand up to the USA. They never will, the USA is a continent in itself, it is the bulwark of christendom, and a tool of zionism. These nation states can never stand up to it, even if they had 1000 years to prepare!
If anyone wants to stand upto capitalism they first need to stop the islam/ummah ranting. There is no such thing. Everyone is on their own. Americans control media/world_economy , so these countries need to do better in these departments. Big multinationals control what alot of us/euro govt do. It's really complex but having a big damn economy is the way forward.
 
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That's partly true, but it's not entirely a bad thing. Erdogan let him go and lost face, I'd rather he loses face than millions of Turks lose their lives in a war that can't really be won.
Bingo. Ask @Azadkashmir if he would like to be hiding in the mountains, parents being pushed around by US Marines, females being frisked by US soldiers and his children being killed by US bombs. Now repeat that tragedy million on million times ....

If Mullah Omar had iota of sense he would have compromised and made a deal with US. There would be million dead Afghans still alive and millions more would not be humiliated by US Marines everyday. And India would not be dancing in Kabul. Sometimes it is wise to make tactical withdrawel.
 
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Yesterday:

- The US proposes to join the investigations alongside KSA, but did not ask Turkey..
- The US invited Khadija (Jamal's Turkish fiancée) to the White House..

Today:

- Turkey releases the American priest..

!???
 
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Bingo. Ask @Azadkashmir if he would like to be hiding in the mountains, parents being pushed around by US Marines, females being frisked by US soldiers and his children being killed by US bombs. Now repeat that tragedy million on million times ....

If Mullah Omar had iota of sense he would have compromised and made a deal with US. There would be million dead Afghans still alive and millions more would not be humiliated by US Marines everyday. And India would not be dancing in Kabul. Sometimes it is wise to make tactical withdrawel.
Bull's eye
 
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Bingo. Ask @Azadkashmir if he would like to be hiding in the mountains, parents being pushed around by US Marines, females being frisked by US soldiers and his children being killed by US bombs. Now repeat that tragedy million on million times ....

If Mullah Omar had iota of sense he would have compromised and made a deal with US. There would be million dead Afghans still alive and millions more would not be humiliated by US Marines everyday. And India would not be dancing in Kabul. Sometimes it is wise to make tactical withdrawel.

He,y war is war you either cower down or die fighting. poor people dont have much to lose.
 
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Trump pulls an Erdogan on Erdogan.


So no economic easing or anything. Erdogan got played and got left empty handed with a red bum hole.

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All Erdo can do is fool people. Acted so brave when he destroyed Syria along with US Israel and KSA.
 
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It makes me laugh!!!! When spies from the Super Power (it may be a surprise to some but the USA is still the lone Super Power) are caught and made public, it means they're for up bargain; otherwise, they are executed without making it public!!! If Reis wanted an easy bargain, he'd have done it for the Turkish economy!!!! But, he raised it to a level unknown to any Muslim leader in the last 100 years (except Jinnah)!!!!! He wanted the East of the Firat inside Syria (currently under the US supported and KSA/UAE financed PKK/YPG), and with it the security of Jan, Mal and Namus of millions of Muslims!!!!! And, now the Turkish forces are getting ready to do their parts....

I hope I have made it clear to those Arakadsh-lar who, like me, want to pursue Hakikat with Hikmet no matter how infinitesimal and insignificant it is....

Ve Ma Tevfiki Illa Billah....
 
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