More than 50 afghan soldiers killed:IG FC

[The Fist]

 

[Mugwop]

@Mugwop Why a negative rating for this post? It is very much relevant to the topic as PA has history of claiming fake victories so it is but natural that we question the claim of killing 50 Afghan soldiers as well.

indians claim fake victories not Pakistan.
Your question regarding how many Afghan soldiers were killed will be answered shortly have patience.

 

[Vapnope]

It was a stun attack pakistani must have had lots of casualties. But to be frank its non of our business what ever sail their boat.

have you ever seen a pakistani census team? of course you haven't hence the cynicism.

 

[sbh02]

If anyone lies about figures, it is the Afghans. Look at how many terrorists they claim to kill, completely doctored and fabricated numbers!

May 6, 2017:

348 militants killed in Afghan forces operations in past one week: Waziri

http://www.khaama.com/348-militants-killed-in-afghan-forces-operations-in-past-one-week-waziri-02726

May 1, 2017:

130 insurgents killed in Afghan forces operations, MoD claims

http://www.khaama.com/130-insurgents-killed-in-afghan-forces-operations-mod-claims-02695


Meanwhile, Kunduz is being overrun by the Taliban again, the Afghans have no writ over large swathes of their country, they are the breeding grounds for ISIS, al-Qaeda and the Taliban; all that are formidable forces for the Mayor of Kabul, Ghani. And then they cook up these numbers just to make themselves feel good.

No international news agency can verify any of these numbers. There is no proof that such high numbers of militants were killed, and if they were; the Afghans would be winning, and the insurgents would be losing. But Afghanistan has never looked more fragile.

 

[IceCold]

we got the 50 figure initially on the very first day from our fellowsvon ground in balochistan i shared that info in that attack thread you can check there . though the total was not verified at that time so i added a note to my post later but left the earlier comment as it is. 30 were confirmed by that time

If nobody backs your claim then nothing happened. Its simple. Few days ago windjammer showed pictures and videos of Indians getting obliterated in Pakistani counter attack. Thats how you show it. The fact is PA got taken by surprise and they were humiliated by under equipped and pathetic force such as Afghanistan. Now they are trying to cover up.

 

[Sal12]

See you don't understand the problem here- The area which Afghans want has Pashtoons- Majority of Afghans are Pashtoons- Pashtoons want a country for themselves-

Most volatile areas of Pakistan where they have conducted 1300 air strikes in a single operation is Pashtoon areas- How many air strikes have Turkey done on Kurds as a comparison- I hope you get some idea-

Ok. The World's largest country of Pashthuns is Pakistan and the numbers of Pashtuns in Pakistan are more than the double of Pashthuns in Afganistan. This should be Pakistan who should demand Pashtuns areas of Afganistan.
Also there are millions of Pashtuns from Afganistan living illegally in Pakistan and they don't want to go back to afganistan and you think pashthuns of Pakistan want to be a part of Afganistan.
Another thing is if Afganistan really wants to be a land of pashtuns then would you suggest to afganistan to leave the big chunk of its non pashtun territories i.e. Tajik, Hazara etc.

 

[Mrc]

This should be Pakistan who should demand Pashtuns areas of Afganistan.

This is the solution to this problem... we shus start voicing this demand

 

[saiyan0321]

If nobody backs your claim then nothing happened. Its simple.

Quite frankly her claims have been backed. I don't give weight to online claims but whatever she claimed when torkham incident happened came true as well as other cross border incidents in fata and she was the first state that the MOAB caused damage in khurram of windows something media picked much later and she also stated at 12:06 am that in torkham 4 trucks have been burned due to our firing and 1 driver killed and 1 injured something reported by tolo at 10:30am in the morning although the official quoting stated that firing happened in the morning at 7 am. Her claims have been verified again and again since she us a journalist its hardly surprising.

The fact is PA got taken by surprise and they were humiliated by under equipped and pathetic force such as Afghanistan. Now they are trying to cover up.

Well then somebody needs to reach afghans to press advantage. They call for ceasefire. They call our charge d affairs and then they call flag meetings and in the third they agreed to our point of using geological survey and Google maps something we said in the second meeting to do and said in the second meeting that the maps support us.

The same was being said in torkham yet the gate stands there.

Anyhow as I have stated. Believe whatever you wish.

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

(He added, however, that "we are not happy over their losses since they are our Muslim brothers".)

If the IG believes the above statement he is a traitor.

 

[IceCold]

Quite frankly her claims have been backed. I don't give weight to online claims but whatever she claimed when torkham incident happened came true as well as other cross border incidents in fata and she was the first state that the MOAB caused damage in khurram of windows something media picked much later and she also stated at 12:06 am that in torkham 4 trucks have been burned due to our firing and 1 driver killed and 1 injured something reported by tolo at 10:30am in the morning although the official quoting stated that firing happened in the morning at 7 am. Her claims have been verified again and again since she us a journalist its hardly surprising.



Well then somebody needs to reach afghans to press advantage. They call for ceasefire. They call our charge d affairs and then they call flag meetings and in the third they agreed to our point of using geological survey and Google maps something we said in the second meeting to do and said in the second meeting that the maps support us.

The same was being said in torkham yet the gate stands there.

Anyhow as I have stated. Believe whatever you wish.

Her claims have been backed by who? FC, yeah i read that and while it is all good and dandy but the fact that a country like Afghanistan which is itself under foreign occupation and is not really a country has the audacity to attack Pakistan shows the true face of our capability and we can claim whatever we like but this is the second time they initiated attacks while our government and army adopts a policy of appeasement should be enough for a wake up call.

 

[NakedLunch]

bro you upgraded an indian to shitbag.....I am most upset with you...
please refrain from such upgrades.....

Point taken.

 

[Trango Towers]

No i dont go back. If i learn something new i acknowledge it.

Btw i am not pakistani hater. Bloody whats wrong with you guys indians call me india hater pakistani call me pak hater.i just have my point of view through what i learnt from history and experience.

As far as afghan are concerned they are your friend and neighbours. Beother just give sane reply dont get personal.

my dear neighbour.....we don't hate you....all Indians are just entertainment for us

 

[duhastmish]

my dear neighbour.....we don't hate you....all Indians are just entertainment for us

My dear you have highly mistaken. Anyways have dont be personal on such discussion forum. Lets keep it civilized or else it will turn garbage like many other.

 

[saiyan0321]

Her claims have been backed by who?

Khamma press for the torkham clash that happened on Friday night. Its in the main thread. Every word of it.

Our own media for the MOAB destroying windows.

In torkham incident again neutral media.

FC, yeah i read that

Yes so unless she is the IGFC here I think her claims need to be given some water don't you think. After all she said what he stated two days ago at 3:34 pm I believe. By all accounts don't believe in it.

the fact that a country like Afghanistan which is itself under foreign occupation and is not really a country has the audacity to attack Pakistan

Afghanistan has always attacked us. It attacked us in the 1960s when it was undergoing a troublesome low level civil disunity. It attack us when the soviet controlled it as well. It attacked us in 2007. It attacked us in 2011. It attacked us in 2016 in torkham and it attacked us a month ago as well and now. It will always have the audacity bcz they hate us. India's hatred is nothing compared to this. They invaded bajuar in 1960s yet we loved them. This will not be the last incident.

shows the true face of our capability

More restraint than capability. Going to war is not that easy. We didn't go in torkham and we won't go now. Yes the attack was horrendous but war is not in Pakistan's agenda. Which is why when they asked for ceasefire we accepted. When flag meetings happened we attended.

this is the second time they initiated attacks while our government and army adopts a policy of appeasement should be enough for a wake up call.

I understand your frustration. I really do. A powerful destructive response with land annexations but pakistan won't do that. If Afghanistan wasnt in our sphere of threat perception after the invasion of bajuar then it won't be now.

There are many reasons for this appeasement policy and you know very well what they are. You are smart. You know why the most we are doing is building border controls and fences and not going for full scale wars.

However we are reaching limits. Even analysts know that we are reaching limits. Many of them have called it the most greatest build up of military and most war like situation in history of Afghanistan pakistan.

Anyhow. Geological survey is being done. This was our call since we were saying use maps and Google maps and its our territory.

I am.going to bed. I know it's hard and I know that you want us to launch fifty nukes to remove their very existence but pakistan won't do that and you know why. As @Icarus said it will always be proportional response. Always.

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

Yet they came and did what they did yesterday- You should avoid quoting me unless you have something useful to say-

What they did is not extraordinary four to five soldiers can do that with mortars easily and especially when target civilians. But the real question is can they wage a real war against Pakistan, no they cannot. They cannot sustain a war with Pakistan for more than a day.