More than 50 afghan soldiers killed:IG FC

[Pandora]

Look boys, Pakistani soldiers left their uniforms with APCs and both were captured by the Afghan border police:

And the video:

https://www.facebook.com/

Sorry for the foul language

Looks like Afghans have a Big problem right now. Apparently an FC soldier slipped out of his uniform and is running around naked in afghanistan . Afghans beware of a lone wolf carrying a gun and two gernades of mass destruction and if he had daal prior to skirmish then he has a fullly loaded canon as well.

Seriously you AFGHANS have fully mastered chutiyapa from your Indian Masters. Where the fucck is soldier that was suppose to be in that uniform?

 

[pakdefender]

Look boys, Pakistani soldiers left their uniforms with APCs and both were captured by the Afghan border police:

And the video:

https://www.facebook.com/

Sorry for the foul language

If only such mobile video propaganda was effective on ground , afghan security forces would not be getting killed at a rate of 400 per month and would have brought the afghan security situation under control

Lives of Afghan people will remain miserable since you lack common sense

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

Uzbeks still form a sizable portion of the Northerner population. Their seat were the cities of Kabul and Kandahar, which would mean that they hailed from, governed over and were thus Afghans in the modern term.

1- There are hardly any Uzbeg locality in Kabul or Kandahar-
2- Uzbegs are content with their present boundaries-
3- They would have to make a claim-
4- However we may wish It is they who have to take the onus like Afghans-

well majority of pashtun lie in pakistan the are happy here they dont want a pashtunistan why should we give them the pashtun majority area to afghanistan where the pashtun majority is less and if that were to happen what about the tajiks will they be given to Tajikistan or turkmenistan.

You don't have to give- But who can stop them from trying to take it-

Ok. The World's largest country of Pashthuns is Pakistan and the numbers of Pashtuns in Pakistan are more than the double of Pashthuns in Afganistan. This should be Pakistan who should demand Pashtuns areas of Afganistan.
Also there are millions of Pashtuns from Afganistan living illegally in Pakistan and they don't want to go back to afganistan and you think pashthuns of Pakistan want to be a part of Afganistan.
Another thing is if Afganistan really wants to be a land of pashtuns then would you suggest to afganistan to leave the big chunk of its non pashtun territories i.e. Tajik, Hazara etc.

Bangladesh has more Muslim population that Pakistan can they demand Pakistan as Bangladesh- I used to think Pakistanis are smart people-

The living together part has to be decided among themselves and It is an internal affair of Afghanistan-

What they did is not extraordinary four to five soldiers can do that with mortars easily and especially when target civilians. But the real question is can they wage a real war against Pakistan, no they cannot. They cannot sustain a war with Pakistan for more than a day.

Did you see the Burning APC and the captured APC videos ? surely the civilians there can't afford such luxury can they ?

1.40% of population of Afghanistan is pushtoon 60% is non pushtoons, these days the power lies with the northerners
2. most pushtoons live in pakistan(nearly twice the population of afgahnistan pushtoon)
3. they live in all four provinces with second largest in sindh which doesnt even boarder Afghanistan

hence, the claim that would make more sense would be pakistan claiming pushtoon population but we respect int boarders

Most of these Pashtuns are Afghan refugees-

Unacceptable provocation by the Afghani regime.

Pakistan is well within its rights to respond heavily.

China should stay away from this mess- remember these kids would be growing fast-

By the time they come of age I think CPEC construction will be complete- India has already warned China that this is another fat Kim in making- But you people still are weary about a monk like Dalai Lama-

 

[Kabira]

Looks like Afghans have a Big problem right now. Apparently an FC soldier slipped out of his uniform and is running around naked in afghanistan . Afghans beware of a lone wolf carrying a gun and two gernades of mass destruction and if he had daal prior to skirmish then he has a fullly loaded canon as well.

Seriously you AFGHANS have fully mastered chutiyapa from your Indian Masters. Where the fucck is soldier that was suppose to be in that uniform?

 

[Incog_nito]

Though, I don't like war but still I would say:

Pakistan is now on a right track. Moving on to become a Neutral Muslim country in the world!

 

[Sal12]

1- There are hardly any Uzbeg locality in Kabul or Kandahar-
2- Uzbegs are content with their present boundaries-
3- They would have to make a claim-
4- However we may wish It is they who have to take the onus like Afghans-



You don't have to give- But who can stop them from trying to take it-



Bangladesh has more Muslim population that Pakistan can they demand Pakistan as Bangladesh- I used to think Pakistanis are smart people-

The living together part has to be decided among themselves and It is an internal affair of Afghanistan-


Bangladesh has more
Did you see the Burning APC and the captured APC videos ? surely the civilians there can't afford such luxury can they ?



Most of these Pashtuns are Afghan refugees-



China should stay away from this mess- remember these kids would be growing fast-

By the time they come of age I think CPEC construction will be complete- India has already warned China that this is another fat Kim in making- But you people still are weary about a monk like Dalai Lama-

Pakistan has bigger muslim population than Bangaldesh. After reading your claim regarding Bangaldesh has more muslim than Pakistan, I am ending this discussion here as I didn't want to waste my time further more.

 

[Readerdefence]

Cant we make a video proof of the clash later and then leaked
It through the media so at lest something can been seen by some
Pakistani what's going on ? I might be naive to write this but I think
Is or must be having some kind of video footages as a proof
Though if not for media leakage but still for their own record and later
Analysis

 

[SHAH820]

Cant we make a video proof of the clash later and then leaked
It through the media so at lest something can been seen by some
Pakistani what's going on ? I might be naive to write this but I think
Is or must be having some kind of video footages as a proof
Though if not for media leakage but still for their own record and later
Analysis

for that you have to go inside afghanistan but now its too late they could have removed those dead bodies

and their is a video post in thos thread page 14 its completely showing afghan dead soldiers carried away in a jeep

 

[waz]

Look boys, Pakistani soldiers left their uniforms with APCs and both were captured by the Afghan border police:

And the video:

https://www.facebook.com/

Sorry for the foul language

Not trying to be funny here but you an pick all that stuff up at the local bazar. As for the APC where are the markings to ID it as Pakistani.

 

[F86 Saber]

We retaliated fine, why stopped? Why did we let them run with their tails or whatever? Why did we not enter Afghanistan and made sure that those bastards are killed or captured and brought back to Pakistan? As for the backlash, **** that backlash if it comes at the cost of fellow Pakistanis. We lost 12 men, who will be held responsible for their lives? Merely retaliating isnt enough. A pounding so hard that next time Afghanistan does not dare to fire in our territory yet alone to cross it.

We killed 50 Afghan soldiers after which they surrendered, what kind of barbarians would Pakistan Army be if they attacked someone raising a white flag? They have already been taught a lesson which they will not forget, stop acting like Indians who thump their chest and declare war on Pakistan after every firecracker incident in India.

 

[pzfz]

We killed 50 Afghan soldiers after which they surrendered, what kind of barbarians would Pakistan Army be if they attacked someone raising a white flag? They have already been taught a lesson which they will not forget, stop acting like Indians who thump their chest and declare war on Pakistan after every firecracker incident in India.

IceCold is correct, you're wrong. Perception management was bungled from the get go. ISPR on the whole is at a loss when it comes to communications management.

Forget what? They're already denying that 50 of their soldiers were killed. 50, even if true and coming from a reliable source, is at the end of the day just a claim. Pak allowed the donkeys to initiate, escalate AND deescalate. On top of that the Pak side allowed them to set the terms of the negotiations and solutions (gps, google maps etc). Now what? Pak hasn't established or taught them anything. In fact, it has only emboldened them.

The only solution should've been to not only eliminate the perpetrators of the attack but to secure the WHOLE village - including the afghanistani side - until the completion of the census. And during all this, proof, with videos and pictures of Pak forces operating inside afghanistan, dead/wounded/captured afghanistanis, and fleeing attackers.

P.S. Actual number of donkeys killed was 46.

 

[F86 Saber]

IceCold is correct, you're wrong. Perception management was bungled from the get go. ISPR on the whole is at a loss when it comes to communications management.

Forget what? They're already denying that 50 of their soldiers were killed. 50, even if true and coming from a reliable source, is at the end of the day just a claim. Pak allowed the donkeys to initiate, escalate AND deescalate. On top of that the Pak side allowed them to set the terms of the negotiations and solutions (gps, google maps etc). Now what? Pak hasn't established or taught them anything. In fact, it has only emboldened them.

The only solution should've been to not only eliminate the perpetrators of the attack but to secure the WHOLE village - including the afghanistani side - until the completion of the census. And during all this, proof, with videos and pictures of Pak forces operating inside afghanistan, dead/wounded/captured afghanistanis, and fleeing attackers.

P.S. Actual number of donkeys killed was 46.

What you don't understand is that ISPR is not a propaganda tool, as the name suggests, it is a tool to bridge the gap and strengthen the bond between army and civilians while defending the image and dignity of Pakistan Armed Forces.

We had nothing to gain from proving to the world how many Afghan soldiers we killed. Go watch the press conference given by Gen. Amer Riaz after the incident, he repeatedly said that we didn't want to kill Afghan soldiers and we are sad that we had to do it. You need to wrap your head around the fact that we are not a war with Afghan Government, we are not fighting ANA on the surface, we are trying to tell the world that we are a peaceful nation and are merely defending ourselves from none state actors emerging from Afghanistan. We have never claimed of going hot inside Afghanistan and we never will. ISPR knows better than to please a few war mongers, bottom line is, villages ARE secure and Afghanistan will never even think of going on such a misadventure ever again.

Who told you that seize fire was done on their terms? Geo mapping is being done to tell the morons on the other side where their territory is, the villages in question are under Pakistan's control and it will remain that way.

 

[IceCold]

We killed 50 Afghan soldiers after which they surrendered, what kind of barbarians would Pakistan Army be if they attacked someone raising a white flag? They have already been taught a lesson which they will not forget, stop acting like Indians who thump their chest and declare war on Pakistan after every firecracker incident in India.

No lesson is worth its salt if it does not deter an enemy from attacking you time and time again. Has Pakistani response ever deterred Afghans from attacking? Morals or ethics have no place in it. Let go this moral high horse of yours and face the reality. And this claim of 50 has already been rubbished by the Afghan side. So what lesson was taught to them that was rejected the next day and you have zero evidence to counter it other than your word against them.

What you don't understand is that ISPR is not a propaganda tool, as the name suggests, it is a tool to bridge the gap and strengthen the bond between army and civilians while defending the image and dignity of Pakistan Armed Forces.

We had nothing to gain from proving to the world how many Afghan soldiers we killed. Go watch the press conference given by Gen. Amer Riaz after the incident, he repeatedly said that we didn't want to kill Afghan soldiers and we are sad that we had to do it. You need to wrap your head around the fact that we are not a war with Afghan Government, we are not fighting ANA on the surface, we are trying to tell the world that we are a peaceful nation and are merely defending ourselves from none state actors emerging from Afghanistan. We have never claimed of going hot inside Afghanistan and we never will. ISPR knows better than to please a few war mongers, bottom line is, villages ARE secure and Afghanistan will never even think of going on such a misadventure ever again.

Who told you that seize fire was done on their terms? Geo mapping is being done to tell the morons on the other side where their territory is, the villages in question are under Pakistan's control and it will remain that way.

The highlighted part, this is the problem, you are sad to kill an enemy, what the **** does this suppose to mean? Your job is to protect every inch of the mother land and the people of that country, you failed on both accounts and on top of that you are feeling sad on their deaths? Pathetic. This is the reason nobody takes Pakistan seriously. This is the reason that now Iran is openly threatening to take action inside Pakistani area. This mantra of peaceful nation needs to go down the toilet drain.

 

[Skywalker]

Sorry the claim of killing 50 Afghan soldiers is as fake as Indian claim of surgical strikes, until it proves otherwise. Did you see the face expression of the core commander when he was giving media briefing, he was smiling like nothing happened at chaman and those 12 precious Pakistanis lost their lives not because of indiscriminate firing by the Afghan scums but they died in a road accident. What a shame.

 

[pzfz]

What you don't understand is that ISPR is not a propaganda tool, as the name suggests, it is a tool to bridge the gap and strengthen the bond between army and civilians while defending the image and dignity of Pakistan Armed Forces.

We had nothing to gain from proving to the world how many Afghan soldiers we killed. Go watch the press conference given by Gen. Amer Riaz after the incident, he repeatedly said that we didn't want to kill Afghan soldiers and we are sad that we had to do it. You need to wrap your head around the fact that we are not a war with Afghan Government, we are not fighting ANA on the surface, we are trying to tell the world that we are a peaceful nation and are merely defending ourselves from none state actors emerging from Afghanistan. We have never claimed of going hot inside Afghanistan and we never will. ISPR knows better than to please a few war mongers, bottom line is, villages ARE secure and Afghanistan will never even think of going on such a misadventure ever again.

Who told you that seize fire was done on their terms? Geo mapping is being done to tell the morons on the other side where their territory is, the villages in question are under Pakistan's control and it will remain that way.

Keep trying to horseshit yourself. ISPR has only sullied the country. ISPR is a messaging tool and the only message they've given out is not being taken seriously by the afghanistanis. This means false bravado and chivalry on the part of Pak and more attacks by the hashish donkeys. Same thing happened at Angor Adda. Torkham (where there was actual evidence provided in the form of videos and shows conducted) should've taught them a lesson, but this episode shows that the donkeys are not deterred.

You have a hard time comprehending this and accepting reality. Ceasefire was called by them (Pak's claim) after they already did what they wanted to do. And no, the villages are not in Pak's control as evidenced by them taking selfies with Pak soldiers negotiating with them INSIDE the villages. And what if geo mapping shows that they were right? Leaving the conclusion up in the air is exactly what they wanted and got. There is space for nuance between deterrence and war.

"we are trying to tell the world that we are a peaceful nation and are merely defending ourselves from none state actors emerging from Afghanistan"

Keep trying. No one cares. Pakistan's interests shouldn't be decided on trying to tell the world something. Take care of your citizens, be firm, proactive and the rest will come.

No lesson is worth its salt if it does not deter an enemy from attacking you time and time again. Has Pakistani response ever deterred Afghans from attacking? Morals or ethics have no place in it. Let go this moral high horse of yours and face the reality. And this claim of 50 has already been rubbished by the Afghan side. So what lesson was taught to them that was rejected the next day and you have zero evidence to counter it other than your word against them.

Don't doubt the claim at all. You shouldn't either. But it's off by 4. 46 were sent to hell.

It's the messaging that one should have a problem with. They left the door open for doubt and ridicule by their pathetic actions and words post-clash.