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The Indian Air Force had earlier staunchly opposed the Army’s demand to acquire both medium-lift and attack helicopters together

The previous UPA-2 government had, in its last few days in office in May this year, approved the proposed acquisition of 39 more Apache AH-64D Block-III attack helicopters from US aviation giant Boeing for the Indian Army and formation of three squadrons of these helicopters in the Army, defence sources have said.

Currently, the acquisition process for 22 Apache attack helicopters from Boeing is on for the Indian Air Force (IAF) and is understood to be in contract negotiation stage. The acceptance of necessity (AoN) cost for the acquisition of the 22 Apache attack helicopters for the IAF was `3,094 crores. But the proposed acquisition of 39 more of these helicopters for the Army will mean more deals with the US aviation giant.

The previous UPA-2 government had decided in October, 2012 that all future acquisitions of attack helicopters — after the ongoing acquisition process for 22 Apache helicopters — would be for the Army instead of the IAF. But the IAF will get the 22 Apache helicopters for which the acquisition process is on. This makes it clear that there would be follow-on orders for 39 more helicopters after this, for the Army.

The Army-IAF had earlier been involved in a spat over the issue before the UPA-2 government had intervened on the matter and resolved it in 2012.

The Army had wanted attack copters of its own to provide aerial support for its tanks, since it has validated the concept of constituting aviation brigades for this purpose. The Army’s logic is that it needs attack helicopters of its own to swiftly attack enemy tanks in a battle-scenario without having to wait for the IAF response.

The IAF had earlier staunchly opposed the Army’s demand to acquire both medium-lift and attack helicopters together, with the previous IAF chief Air Chief Marshal N.A.K. Browne (Retd.) saying during his tenure as IAF chief that one could not agree to these “little air forces” (of the Army) coming up. The IAF currently operates Mi-25 and Mi-35 attack helicopter units.

Current Army Chief Gen. Bikram Singh had said in October, 2012, “Yes, we (the Army) are getting attack helicopters. It is in national interest.”

More Apache deals likely with US | The Asian Age

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I don't like army and air force buying apache helis. We should A-10 Warthog which i cheaper and more effective in actual battlefield.
 
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I don't like army and air force buying apache helis. We should A-10 Warthog which i cheaper and more effective in actual battlefield.
The last A10 warthog was built in 1984
Even after considerable MLU , these aircrafts would only serve till 2028
Apaches on the other hand, will serve till atleast 2040
 
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I believe number is going to touch around 100 in near future..
 
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The Indian Air Force had earlier staunchly opposed the Army’s demand to acquire both medium-lift and attack helicopters together

The previous UPA-2 government had, in its last few days in office in May this year, approved the proposed acquisition of 39 more Apache AH-64D Block-III attack helicopters from US aviation giant Boeing for the Indian Army and formation of three squadrons of these helicopters in the Army, defence sources have said.

Currently, the acquisition process for 22 Apache attack helicopters from Boeing is on for the Indian Air Force (IAF) and is understood to be in contract negotiation stage. The acceptance of necessity (AoN) cost for the acquisition of the 22 Apache attack helicopters for the IAF was `3,094 crores. But the proposed acquisition of 39 more of these helicopters for the Army will mean more deals with the US aviation giant.

The previous UPA-2 government had decided in October, 2012 that all future acquisitions of attack helicopters — after the ongoing acquisition process for 22 Apache helicopters — would be for the Army instead of the IAF. But the IAF will get the 22 Apache helicopters for which the acquisition process is on. This makes it clear that there would be follow-on orders for 39 more helicopters after this, for the Army.

The Army-IAF had earlier been involved in a spat over the issue before the UPA-2 government had intervened on the matter and resolved it in 2012.

The Army had wanted attack copters of its own to provide aerial support for its tanks, since it has validated the concept of constituting aviation brigades for this purpose. The Army’s logic is that it needs attack helicopters of its own to swiftly attack enemy tanks in a battle-scenario without having to wait for the IAF response.

The IAF had earlier staunchly opposed the Army’s demand to acquire both medium-lift and attack helicopters together, with the previous IAF chief Air Chief Marshal N.A.K. Browne (Retd.) saying during his tenure as IAF chief that one could not agree to these “little air forces” (of the Army) coming up. The IAF currently operates Mi-25 and Mi-35 attack helicopter units.

Current Army Chief Gen. Bikram Singh had said in October, 2012, “Yes, we (the Army) are getting attack helicopters. It is in national interest.”

More Apache deals likely with US | The Asian Age

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It looks more and more like that at least 61 AH-64Es will be in service by 2018 and with follow ons the number will likely be 100+.

It doesn't look like the IAF is planning to hand over over their 22 to the IA as some have suggested.
 
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I don't like army and air force buying apache helis. We should A-10 Warthog which i cheaper and more effective in actual battlefield.

You may be unaware that the A-10 Warthog is not for sale and has not even been offered to India.
So how do you propose that India should acquire it?
 
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The last A10 warthog was built in 1984
Even after considerable MLU , these aircrafts would only serve till 2028
Apaches on the other hand, will serve till atleast 2040
A-10 are easily servicable and easy in maintainance and so its sercive length can be increased beyond 2050. We should buy a weapon platform which is more effective in actual battlefield than its competition. Apache will not surivie in an heavy anti-air environment.
 
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You may be unaware that the A-10 Warthog is not for sale and has not even been offered to India.
So how do you propose that India should acquire it?

US recently grounded its fleet of A-10's, they are friggin awesome planes for ground support.

Don't know how much is it possible by lobbying, but would be a very potent addition.
 
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US recently grounded its fleet of A-10's, they are friggin awesome planes for ground support.

Don't know how much is it possible by lobbying, but would be a very potent addition.

Not much chance. USA is grounding their fleet and keeping them in Reserve Status (for economic reasons); not retiring them from service.
 
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That is why I must insist that this deal stinks of lobbying and corruption. Somebody must file a PIL to stall this acquisition.

Then get that Subramaniam Swamy cracking on the job............of filing the PIL to stall it.
He is the perfect "gun for hire" for all this kind of thing, plus he seems to sort of unemployed lately.
 
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You may be unaware that the A-10 Warthog is not for sale and has not even been offered to India.
So how do you propose that India should acquire it?

Steal it!! :D :D I too want that warthogs in IAF color!! :man_in_love:
 
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